Class of October 2017 Support Thread pt. 4
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Just poppin in to wish everyone a good Saturday night/noon/morning depending on where ya's are at.
Viper that sounds like an awesome trip coming up, im a bit jealous.
Ive only ever been to Hawaii for a week and didnt wanna come home. Ahh the beaches, so nice!! Good sir do you need a driver or anything on this trip??
Viper that sounds like an awesome trip coming up, im a bit jealous.
Ive only ever been to Hawaii for a week and didnt wanna come home. Ahh the beaches, so nice!! Good sir do you need a driver or anything on this trip?? 
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checking in-
It’s day 15 and I’m down with the flu. On a positive note, my apartment is set up just enough to get by until I feel better and my job is giving me an extra week before my start date, which is now the 27th. I feel like hell and have gone through a lot this past week or so. My body has simply said “stop, you’ve had enough.”
Back to sleep and staying hydrated.
Hope everyone is doing well.
It’s day 15 and I’m down with the flu. On a positive note, my apartment is set up just enough to get by until I feel better and my job is giving me an extra week before my start date, which is now the 27th. I feel like hell and have gone through a lot this past week or so. My body has simply said “stop, you’ve had enough.”
Back to sleep and staying hydrated.
Hope everyone is doing well.
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October class, I have failed miserably recently. I am going to make a fresh start with the November class but wanted to let you know.
Badge, I will miss you. Hang in there.
All others, please keep up the good fight. I will.
Badge, I will miss you. Hang in there.
All others, please keep up the good fight. I will.
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Hey Charliesworld - I'm sorry I can't offer too much advice about the SAD, as I actually much prefer Winter and like the darker nights for some reason. Getting up as soon as it's bright might help you get more daylight hours.
Viper - Just think of it as a learning experience. I generally avoid lots of coffee these days. The caffeine sorta sends me a bit haywire and I end up craving something to calm me down, which has led to me drinking before. I feel like a monk these days, not being able to drink, take caffeine or smoke cigarettes. And your anxiety about your sick friend, just remember what you're dealing with too. Quitting alcohol is a very serious thing too and you need to help yourself before you can help others. You need to be selfish at times.
It's early Sunday morning here. I'm exactly 3 weeks in and still have absolutely no desire to drink. I've never felt like this after three weeks. Usually I'm mentally preparing for the next weeks drink. On a down note last night I was alone and ended up watching porn. I feel sort of embarrassed even mentioning it. This is something I want to cut out of my life too and that will be my next goal. If anybody has experience with this and quitting too I'd be grateful. I don't like how I feel after it yet still on the rare occasion end up watching it I'm lonely or in a bad mood. That's another reason I quit drink as often when I was very hungover I would watch it quite a lot the next day.
Also, I just want to echo what people are saying about having one drink. I can't even fathom having one drink at this stage and I hope I continue to feel this way. Anytime I drank and started getting slightly tipsy, it was like a whole different side of me took over. Almost like I was possessed by something. Or perhaps it's just a deeper more primitive part of the brain taking over. If I ran out of money, I would steal people's drinks at the bar. Steal my friends drinks when they go to the toilet. I always found ways to get really out of it. Even saying I is weird because in those moments it literally does not feel like its me doing this.
Sorry if all that seems a bit random. Anyway, I hope everybody has a good sober Sunday.
Viper - Just think of it as a learning experience. I generally avoid lots of coffee these days. The caffeine sorta sends me a bit haywire and I end up craving something to calm me down, which has led to me drinking before. I feel like a monk these days, not being able to drink, take caffeine or smoke cigarettes. And your anxiety about your sick friend, just remember what you're dealing with too. Quitting alcohol is a very serious thing too and you need to help yourself before you can help others. You need to be selfish at times.
It's early Sunday morning here. I'm exactly 3 weeks in and still have absolutely no desire to drink. I've never felt like this after three weeks. Usually I'm mentally preparing for the next weeks drink. On a down note last night I was alone and ended up watching porn. I feel sort of embarrassed even mentioning it. This is something I want to cut out of my life too and that will be my next goal. If anybody has experience with this and quitting too I'd be grateful. I don't like how I feel after it yet still on the rare occasion end up watching it I'm lonely or in a bad mood. That's another reason I quit drink as often when I was very hungover I would watch it quite a lot the next day.
Also, I just want to echo what people are saying about having one drink. I can't even fathom having one drink at this stage and I hope I continue to feel this way. Anytime I drank and started getting slightly tipsy, it was like a whole different side of me took over. Almost like I was possessed by something. Or perhaps it's just a deeper more primitive part of the brain taking over. If I ran out of money, I would steal people's drinks at the bar. Steal my friends drinks when they go to the toilet. I always found ways to get really out of it. Even saying I is weird because in those moments it literally does not feel like its me doing this.
Sorry if all that seems a bit random. Anyway, I hope everybody has a good sober Sunday.
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Bob - don't leave. Stay with us!
Wax - look after yourself. You've been through a lot.
Soul - I love lists. I have a to do list that I carry round with me which I use for work and personal stuff. I try and make sure I do at least something each day. It's really satisfying seeing things getting ticked off. The days I am full of energy and get loads done are great. Your work seems to be causing a lot of stress for you. Can you look for something else?
Right so it's Sunday morning 8.50am. I had a bad night. Was up at 2am. I can't go on like this so today I'm not taking any s**t from this. I'm getting on with it and telling this crappy anxiety to get lost. So I'm going to have a shower and hopefully take my kids out for a walk with a friend of mine. My eldest son is coming for Sunday lunch so I've got a beef dinner to cook later along with a nice vegetable soup for my lunch tomorrow. I'm not wallowing today. I've done enough of that recently and I don't feel better at all for letting myself do it.
I need to sort out some travel insurance for our holiday at new year too today. Aside from sorting out our travel money and packing I think we are done then. I have never been to Mexico before so if any of you have been to Cancun and have any tips for me I'd be grateful!
Have a great day guys.
Wax - look after yourself. You've been through a lot.
Soul - I love lists. I have a to do list that I carry round with me which I use for work and personal stuff. I try and make sure I do at least something each day. It's really satisfying seeing things getting ticked off. The days I am full of energy and get loads done are great. Your work seems to be causing a lot of stress for you. Can you look for something else?
Right so it's Sunday morning 8.50am. I had a bad night. Was up at 2am. I can't go on like this so today I'm not taking any s**t from this. I'm getting on with it and telling this crappy anxiety to get lost. So I'm going to have a shower and hopefully take my kids out for a walk with a friend of mine. My eldest son is coming for Sunday lunch so I've got a beef dinner to cook later along with a nice vegetable soup for my lunch tomorrow. I'm not wallowing today. I've done enough of that recently and I don't feel better at all for letting myself do it.
I need to sort out some travel insurance for our holiday at new year too today. Aside from sorting out our travel money and packing I think we are done then. I have never been to Mexico before so if any of you have been to Cancun and have any tips for me I'd be grateful!
Have a great day guys.
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Thanks Doubledee. I find when it's getting dark at 5pm the nights just seem really long. I think I need to start reading again. It's the perfect time of year for it and I do love it once I get into a book. I used to read loads when I was younger. I am generally up before it gets light, I'm definitely a lark.
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This is bothering me...
Hi All, I'm catching up on a couple of days posts and I read Kits plan to have a drink a month and then a drink a week some time soon.
There are some great responses including ones from Soul,
Bimini & S'Leigh
Getbetter's words below echo my own thoughts so I've borowed them...........
But theres more to it than that for me....as I read the rest of the thread (almost 2 days worth) I'm aware that I can't get Kits words out of my head and this is really bothering me...and I'm trying to understand why.........
You see, the dream of almost every alcoholic/problem drinker is to be a "normal" drinker again. So many of us listen to the AV and we start to make little bargains with it where we can drink 2 beers every 2nd day...or one glass with a special meal....or only on Birthdays, feast days, holidays and other special occasions.
Then eventually we are making other bargains like...."Ok, so I wont drink today"...and then its ..."ok, I won't drink tomorrow"...and down and down we go..
I recall a little anecdote from when I was quitting smoking several years ago.....Imagine meeting someone who, whilst in conversation said to you...
"You know...I 'm going to a party tonight and I'm only gonna have 2 banannas because its still mid-week. You see, I only eat banannas 2 days a week Monday to Friday, but I never have more than 2 at a time and I never start eating my banannas before 7pm. On the weekend its a little different though...Usually on Friday night after I get home from work I'll grab a bunch of four and I'll usually have them as I watch TV but I'm always very sure that its NEVER more than 4.
Saturday I usually go out and its the one night a week where I dont really count how many I have, I think what the heck, I'm just relaxing after a long tough week, I deserve a break.
But once Saturday is over, I'm right back on track and I ALWAYS make sure Sunday is a bananna-free day.
I'm proud of myself.
I am in control of my bananna eating!"
Wouldnt you think to yourself......."Wow, this guy sure has a bananna problem"
Normal drinkers don't even think about drinking or not drinking.
They dont count and they don't ration.
They don't make bargains with themselves and they dont negotiate using drink as some form of alternative currency.
Th reason we are all here is because we are wired a little differently.
We are not normal drinkers.
We are not capable of being social drinkers.
We have already run that experiment and proven to ourselves and our families that the outcome is a total disaster.
For us the equation reads Me+Alcohol=Disater
I tried and failed many times to quit smoking.
Like so many people on this site I learned something each time I failed but I kept coming back and I used each new time what I learned from the past.
Eventually I assembled the correct set of tools, applied them in fortuitous circumstances and I was successful. I am now a happy non-smoker.
I know I will never smoke again because I dont ever want to smoke again.
I know that if I ever put a lit cigarette in my mouth again I would very quickly lose my footing and be sliding down that slippery treacherous hole.
After many failed attempts at moderation, this is my first month of Sobriety in over 30 years (this is day 29). I chased that elusive and fake dream of being a normal drinker for 2 of the last 3 decades.
I always failed and my drinking always got worse.
I have put all my experiences from quitting smoking to work here in my resolution to be alcohol-free....for ever!
No bargains, no deals, no allowances, no fake nirvanas, no alcohol, not now, not ever. It has to be black and white. No shades of grey, no blurring of the lines, no ambiguity, no negotiation, no ground conceded.
I have created for myself "New Thinking".
When the AV comes knocking on the door with any argument that supports the notion of ever drinking either now or at any time in the future, my job is to recognise it, acknowledge that voice as being my AV and knowing it is my mortal enemy, dismiss it.
And every time I do that, my mortal enemy gets weaker.
And I get stronger
And that makes it possible, that makes it do-able, that makes me Sober, Happy & Whole.
I think the reason for my discomfort with Kits suggestion (& please Kit, take absolutely no offence, I promise you, none is intended)is because it directs our focus towards that false dream.
The dream for which we yearned for so many years.
A dream that was so familiar to us that its introduction here in this thread is almost like an old familiar friend walking into the room and we are temporarily disarmed.
The notion that this might be possible for even one person holds out the possibility that it might also be possible for us.
This idea then runs contrary to my "New Thinking" and I think thats why it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Its not sitting well with me because it is running contrary to my beliefs and then I realise that is a good thing!
It tells me that I have formed a new set of beliefs this past 29 days. What would have been my idea of Nirvana a month ago is now unpalatable. What was desirable is now distasteful.
My AV radar is highly tuned and its working 24/7.
I'm learning every day but I know this; The idea that I can ever have a normal relationship with alcohol is out of the question. Right now, I know I will never drink again.
We have all already ran that tape to the end and we've seen where it goes.
We are wired differently. When we stop we need to stay stopped. There is no half-way house, there is no "Normal drinking", there is no compromise.
Nirvana does exist for us, but there's no alcohol there. It is where we are Happy & Sober & Whole.
Victor
There are some great responses including ones from Soul,
Bimini & S'Leigh
Getbetter's words below echo my own thoughts so I've borowed them...........
Originally Posted by Getbetter72 
Bimini and Soberleigh:
Outstanding words. Echoes what others of us are saying here. We will never be able to drink in moderation. Alcoholics don't have an "off switch." Oh, we can fool ourselves for maybe a few days but eventually that switch for drinking will stick in the on position. This is not opinion, it is fact.
Outstanding words. Echoes what others of us are saying here. We will never be able to drink in moderation. Alcoholics don't have an "off switch." Oh, we can fool ourselves for maybe a few days but eventually that switch for drinking will stick in the on position. This is not opinion, it is fact.
You see, the dream of almost every alcoholic/problem drinker is to be a "normal" drinker again. So many of us listen to the AV and we start to make little bargains with it where we can drink 2 beers every 2nd day...or one glass with a special meal....or only on Birthdays, feast days, holidays and other special occasions.
Then eventually we are making other bargains like...."Ok, so I wont drink today"...and then its ..."ok, I won't drink tomorrow"...and down and down we go..
I recall a little anecdote from when I was quitting smoking several years ago.....Imagine meeting someone who, whilst in conversation said to you...
"You know...I 'm going to a party tonight and I'm only gonna have 2 banannas because its still mid-week. You see, I only eat banannas 2 days a week Monday to Friday, but I never have more than 2 at a time and I never start eating my banannas before 7pm. On the weekend its a little different though...Usually on Friday night after I get home from work I'll grab a bunch of four and I'll usually have them as I watch TV but I'm always very sure that its NEVER more than 4.
Saturday I usually go out and its the one night a week where I dont really count how many I have, I think what the heck, I'm just relaxing after a long tough week, I deserve a break.
But once Saturday is over, I'm right back on track and I ALWAYS make sure Sunday is a bananna-free day.
I'm proud of myself.
I am in control of my bananna eating!"
Wouldnt you think to yourself......."Wow, this guy sure has a bananna problem"
Normal drinkers don't even think about drinking or not drinking.
They dont count and they don't ration.
They don't make bargains with themselves and they dont negotiate using drink as some form of alternative currency.
Th reason we are all here is because we are wired a little differently.
We are not normal drinkers.
We are not capable of being social drinkers.
We have already run that experiment and proven to ourselves and our families that the outcome is a total disaster.
For us the equation reads Me+Alcohol=Disater
I tried and failed many times to quit smoking.
Like so many people on this site I learned something each time I failed but I kept coming back and I used each new time what I learned from the past.
Eventually I assembled the correct set of tools, applied them in fortuitous circumstances and I was successful. I am now a happy non-smoker.
I know I will never smoke again because I dont ever want to smoke again.
I know that if I ever put a lit cigarette in my mouth again I would very quickly lose my footing and be sliding down that slippery treacherous hole.
After many failed attempts at moderation, this is my first month of Sobriety in over 30 years (this is day 29). I chased that elusive and fake dream of being a normal drinker for 2 of the last 3 decades.
I always failed and my drinking always got worse.
I have put all my experiences from quitting smoking to work here in my resolution to be alcohol-free....for ever!
No bargains, no deals, no allowances, no fake nirvanas, no alcohol, not now, not ever. It has to be black and white. No shades of grey, no blurring of the lines, no ambiguity, no negotiation, no ground conceded.
I have created for myself "New Thinking".
When the AV comes knocking on the door with any argument that supports the notion of ever drinking either now or at any time in the future, my job is to recognise it, acknowledge that voice as being my AV and knowing it is my mortal enemy, dismiss it.
And every time I do that, my mortal enemy gets weaker.
And I get stronger
And that makes it possible, that makes it do-able, that makes me Sober, Happy & Whole.
I think the reason for my discomfort with Kits suggestion (& please Kit, take absolutely no offence, I promise you, none is intended)is because it directs our focus towards that false dream.
The dream for which we yearned for so many years.
A dream that was so familiar to us that its introduction here in this thread is almost like an old familiar friend walking into the room and we are temporarily disarmed.
The notion that this might be possible for even one person holds out the possibility that it might also be possible for us.
This idea then runs contrary to my "New Thinking" and I think thats why it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Its not sitting well with me because it is running contrary to my beliefs and then I realise that is a good thing!
It tells me that I have formed a new set of beliefs this past 29 days. What would have been my idea of Nirvana a month ago is now unpalatable. What was desirable is now distasteful.
My AV radar is highly tuned and its working 24/7.
I'm learning every day but I know this; The idea that I can ever have a normal relationship with alcohol is out of the question. Right now, I know I will never drink again.
We have all already ran that tape to the end and we've seen where it goes.
We are wired differently. When we stop we need to stay stopped. There is no half-way house, there is no "Normal drinking", there is no compromise.
Nirvana does exist for us, but there's no alcohol there. It is where we are Happy & Sober & Whole.
Victor
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Good Sunday to everyone!
Lulu and Wax – I do hope you both are on the mend! I’ve been a little under the weather too, and had to understand that I just don’t bounce back like I used to. Take care of yourselves! Wax – that’s great that your new job was understanding enough to push back your start date – best of luck when you begin next week.
Soul – you’ve inspired me to make some to do lists myself this morning. After 6 straight days of stressful work - I’m really looking forward to today at home. Coffee’s on and I’m going to get this house in order to start!
Charliesworld – I went to Playa del Carmen (just south of Cancun) several years ago. It’s beautiful. I don’t have any tips for Cancun proper – but if you do any exploring, Tulum (about 2 hours south) is amazing. There’s a lot of neat little towns and fishing villages on the drive.
It’s amazing to get up on a Sunday morning @ 6:30 not hungover and enjoy my coffee and solitude. Typical Sunday mornings in the recent past have been hungover and watching the clock until noon when I can go buy alcohol – to start the madness all over again. I’m praying that I can continue. 30 days sober today!
I must say I’m having some anxiety about Thanksgiving this week. Always a big drinking day for me – starting with a few while I cook and before going to my parents. They are a big trigger for me and I know my buttons are gonna be pushed. I’ve already made a plan to exit shortly after lunch – I’ll be guilted for leaving but that’s better than staying and getting into that bad place emotionally. I do hope that in the near future I can spend time with them without falling into my old ways of dealing with them. I’ve really been working hard on how I react to them (and also my co-workers) understanding that I can’t do anything about their behavior but I can do something about my reaction. True progress.
Lastly, I’ll also chime in on the comments about wishfully thinking down the road one can moderate their drinking. I too, have played that scenario over in my head briefly, and I know in my heart -it’s impossible. The thought of that is daunting, but I just shut it down and don’t think too far ahead. It has NEVER turned out well.
Off to do laundry and clean out the closets - Happy Sunday everyone!
Vic – just read your post – great words of wisdom!
Lulu and Wax – I do hope you both are on the mend! I’ve been a little under the weather too, and had to understand that I just don’t bounce back like I used to. Take care of yourselves! Wax – that’s great that your new job was understanding enough to push back your start date – best of luck when you begin next week.
Soul – you’ve inspired me to make some to do lists myself this morning. After 6 straight days of stressful work - I’m really looking forward to today at home. Coffee’s on and I’m going to get this house in order to start!
Charliesworld – I went to Playa del Carmen (just south of Cancun) several years ago. It’s beautiful. I don’t have any tips for Cancun proper – but if you do any exploring, Tulum (about 2 hours south) is amazing. There’s a lot of neat little towns and fishing villages on the drive.
It’s amazing to get up on a Sunday morning @ 6:30 not hungover and enjoy my coffee and solitude. Typical Sunday mornings in the recent past have been hungover and watching the clock until noon when I can go buy alcohol – to start the madness all over again. I’m praying that I can continue. 30 days sober today!
I must say I’m having some anxiety about Thanksgiving this week. Always a big drinking day for me – starting with a few while I cook and before going to my parents. They are a big trigger for me and I know my buttons are gonna be pushed. I’ve already made a plan to exit shortly after lunch – I’ll be guilted for leaving but that’s better than staying and getting into that bad place emotionally. I do hope that in the near future I can spend time with them without falling into my old ways of dealing with them. I’ve really been working hard on how I react to them (and also my co-workers) understanding that I can’t do anything about their behavior but I can do something about my reaction. True progress.
Lastly, I’ll also chime in on the comments about wishfully thinking down the road one can moderate their drinking. I too, have played that scenario over in my head briefly, and I know in my heart -it’s impossible. The thought of that is daunting, but I just shut it down and don’t think too far ahead. It has NEVER turned out well.
Off to do laundry and clean out the closets - Happy Sunday everyone!
Vic – just read your post – great words of wisdom!
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Viper: I think we need to start working on a plan for your return from FL even though you haven't even left yet. In that way we could fine tune it based on your experiences in FL and have it tuned as sharp as a razor so when you come back you can have focus and the resulting success you so desperately want.
Bad: Super great post. So very true about the enemy lying to us. A true alcoholic, like we all were can never be a calm drinker. For us we become a raging fool firing on all cylinders and living a lie. Like you, I'm not a social drinker. I don't hide it because I live alone but I'm a lone wolf drinker.
Bob: Sometimes we have to fall multiple times to finally figure it out. I have heard some people say that they have hit rock bottom. The problem though is that rock bottom is like a trampoline. We can hit it, bounce back up, but then the gravity of alcoholism lands us right back on that resilient surface and the cycle continues. You WILL win at this!
Double: When we drink there is indeed something taking over us. Whatever you want to call it, we aren't ourselves. I think I have made it clear I am a strong Christian and thankfully to God's grace I am coming up on 3 weeks and all of the urges and guilt have completely been lifted.
Science lesson (if you don't already know that): Alcohol significantly impairs prefrontal cortex activity in our brains. Prefrontal cortex is responsible for executive functions like problem solving, inhibition, immediate and short term memory, sequencing, etc. So when we drink we literally are out of our mind. The prefrontal cortex is the part that lies right behind our forehead. (No, I didn't Google it! Just have a strong background in neuroscience).
Charlie: You sound great and I particularly like your wording--I'm NOT wallowing today, etc. Great attitude. Beat your enemy into submission, tell it that YOU are the one in control! I'm sorry you're having trouble with your sleeping. It might be wise to approach your Dr to get something mild to help you fall and stay asleep, just as a stopgap to get your circadian rhythm to normalize. (Circadian rhythm is defined as the normal sleep/wake cycle).
SoberVictor: Simply an incredible post. I am left speechless at the power you convey therein (and I'm a speech therapist so to leave me speechless is quite powerful).
Ready: So awesome that you have a plan for Thanksgiving. I agree, you'd rather leave early than have a fall. Great plan!
Bad: Super great post. So very true about the enemy lying to us. A true alcoholic, like we all were can never be a calm drinker. For us we become a raging fool firing on all cylinders and living a lie. Like you, I'm not a social drinker. I don't hide it because I live alone but I'm a lone wolf drinker.
Bob: Sometimes we have to fall multiple times to finally figure it out. I have heard some people say that they have hit rock bottom. The problem though is that rock bottom is like a trampoline. We can hit it, bounce back up, but then the gravity of alcoholism lands us right back on that resilient surface and the cycle continues. You WILL win at this!
Double: When we drink there is indeed something taking over us. Whatever you want to call it, we aren't ourselves. I think I have made it clear I am a strong Christian and thankfully to God's grace I am coming up on 3 weeks and all of the urges and guilt have completely been lifted.
Science lesson (if you don't already know that): Alcohol significantly impairs prefrontal cortex activity in our brains. Prefrontal cortex is responsible for executive functions like problem solving, inhibition, immediate and short term memory, sequencing, etc. So when we drink we literally are out of our mind. The prefrontal cortex is the part that lies right behind our forehead. (No, I didn't Google it! Just have a strong background in neuroscience).
Charlie: You sound great and I particularly like your wording--I'm NOT wallowing today, etc. Great attitude. Beat your enemy into submission, tell it that YOU are the one in control! I'm sorry you're having trouble with your sleeping. It might be wise to approach your Dr to get something mild to help you fall and stay asleep, just as a stopgap to get your circadian rhythm to normalize. (Circadian rhythm is defined as the normal sleep/wake cycle).
SoberVictor: Simply an incredible post. I am left speechless at the power you convey therein (and I'm a speech therapist so to leave me speechless is quite powerful).
Ready: So awesome that you have a plan for Thanksgiving. I agree, you'd rather leave early than have a fall. Great plan!
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Forgot to post this link I found about how to combat SAD. Thought it might be helpful for anyone so afflicted.
https://www.prevention.com/health/12...ctive-disorder
https://www.prevention.com/health/12...ctive-disorder
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Originally Posted by bobdrop
October class, I have failed miserably recently. I am going to make a fresh start with the November class but wanted to let you know.
Badge, I will miss you. Hang in there.
All others, please keep up the good fight. I will.
Badge, I will miss you. Hang in there.
All others, please keep up the good fight. I will.
badge
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Double: You’re 100% on with the coffee. I’ve mentioned this for years in SR. I always blamed my meds for getting me amped, but it’s coffee. That day I drank I felt like I’d just smoked meth. I’ve never had meth, but I was in sweaty and amped and flying. Plus I had the coffee late in the day, I waited 7 hours for that State meeting (nervous the whole time).
Charlie - I don’t know if your trip is all set, but Playa Del Carmen is a 1 hour bus ride south of Cancun and is a is highly recommended. It’s a very cosmopolitan/international little city with outstanding beaches. If I was flying into Cancun that’s where I’d be going. BTW, don’t drive down there.
Get better- good idea on the razor sharp plan.
I’m a great deal better today than I was yesterday. It’s amazing outside. 60 and balmy. But the temperature is going to plummet throughout the day. It’ll be 30 or less in 12 hours.
Later on
V
Charlie - I don’t know if your trip is all set, but Playa Del Carmen is a 1 hour bus ride south of Cancun and is a is highly recommended. It’s a very cosmopolitan/international little city with outstanding beaches. If I was flying into Cancun that’s where I’d be going. BTW, don’t drive down there.
Get better- good idea on the razor sharp plan.
I’m a great deal better today than I was yesterday. It’s amazing outside. 60 and balmy. But the temperature is going to plummet throughout the day. It’ll be 30 or less in 12 hours.
Later on
V
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SoberVictor, really great post. You took that AVRT stuff and really ran with it. It is a line in the sand and there is no tippy-toeing over it.
You don't let a lion out of its cage a little bit at a time.
Bob, I hope you stick around...this thread, November, both, every thread on the site. You can put this down for good. It's worth the fight, trust me.
You don't let a lion out of its cage a little bit at a time.
Bob, I hope you stick around...this thread, November, both, every thread on the site. You can put this down for good. It's worth the fight, trust me.
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good morning again all. Looking forward to today, going to a Holiday home show in Boise, generally just spending the day with husband, shopping, relaxing.
LuLu- How are you feeling? Hopefully on the mend, curled up with a good book and getting better!
Wax- Getting settled in? Did you get your cat?
Soul- hope everything is smoothing out and your anxieties are leveling out for you.
Be positive everyone, spoil yourselves today!
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LuLu- How are you feeling? Hopefully on the mend, curled up with a good book and getting better!
Wax- Getting settled in? Did you get your cat?
Soul- hope everything is smoothing out and your anxieties are leveling out for you.
Be positive everyone, spoil yourselves today!
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 206
Good Mornin Class!!
Just checkin in on day 46.
Lotsa good posts here. Gonna re-read them all in a bit.
Cold and windy here in Pa today, good day for kite flying I guess.
I hope everyone here has a great day and is doing and feeling well, I know theres lotsa colds and flu's floating around. Ugh
Brighten
Just checkin in on day 46.
Lotsa good posts here. Gonna re-read them all in a bit.
Cold and windy here in Pa today, good day for kite flying I guess.
I hope everyone here has a great day and is doing and feeling well, I know theres lotsa colds and flu's floating around. Ugh
Brighten
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 253
Just wanted to say big thanks for the responses today. It's actually been a lovely day. I took the family out for a walk and it was clear blue skies and lovely crisp cold. We stopped for a hot drink before heading home. I popped round to see my mum and had a nice hour catching up with her and my sis who was round too. My OH cooked a yummy dinner and everyone is now settled down for the evening with everything ready for the morning.
We are flying into Cancun from Gatwick so not sure how far we'll be able to travel from the hotel. It's our boys first time abroad and on a plane so they are very excited. We are staying all inclusive but I have no idea about etiquette with regards tipping and stuff. We will be doing days out because I don't want to travel that far and not see some of the place but we are novice travellers so wary of being taken advantage of!
It's Sunday evening now and I'm hoping for a good nights sleep. It'll be good if I can sleep through. My plan is to get in work and get loads done. Hopefully make me feel better about doing very little last week.
We are flying into Cancun from Gatwick so not sure how far we'll be able to travel from the hotel. It's our boys first time abroad and on a plane so they are very excited. We are staying all inclusive but I have no idea about etiquette with regards tipping and stuff. We will be doing days out because I don't want to travel that far and not see some of the place but we are novice travellers so wary of being taken advantage of!
It's Sunday evening now and I'm hoping for a good nights sleep. It'll be good if I can sleep through. My plan is to get in work and get loads done. Hopefully make me feel better about doing very little last week.
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Caledon, ON
Posts: 130
Hey bob - just wanted to pop in and say I hope you don't leave this class. I feel like we've all been through what you're going through so many times we really need to forgive ourselves and move on, stronger this time.
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: US
Posts: 600
It’s amazing to get up on a Sunday morning @ 6:30 not hungover and enjoy my coffee and solitude. Typical Sunday mornings in the recent past have been hungover and watching the clock until noon when I can go buy alcohol – to start the madness all over again. I’m praying that I can continue. 30 days sober today!
badge thanks for your thoughts.... was doing ok this weekend til my mom stopped by and got all stressed out talking about it and ended up googling for a bit after she left until I made myself stop. so worried about losing my job. i did get approved for the interlock though. i can't stop being so anxious cos there are several things on the horizon in the next month that are going to either go bad or ok. if I can make it through those things intact then I can start out the new year taking my classes and using the interlock and just go thru the car arrest year. and start to build my sober life. I pray to God all the time asking for so much... I feel guilty begging Him but I can't help it. This has brought me down, I just need to be able to keep my job, my home, my car... I don't understand why I took any of it for granted. I thought I was under stress before - I had no clue what stress really is.
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