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Old 02-22-2014, 12:31 PM
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No, I purposely avoid telling them since they abuse alcohol worse than I do and will make it more difficult rather than provide support.
Ahh that's not good. You'll make better friends sober in the long run.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:34 PM
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Today is day one of sobriety!
By the way, I lose my appetite when I'm frustrated too. That's actually one of the reasons why I'm getting sober: I've lost my appetite and lost weight that I really needed!
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:37 PM
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Good job BrentSC!

And welcome back M1973.....today is a new day...and tomorrow will be even better.

I'm really impressed with members of the class. Everyone seems to be ahead the game, by understanding that in the moment of confidence regarding sobriety today we need to be prepared what our emotions might bring tomorrow.

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Old 02-22-2014, 12:54 PM
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On the subject of just how quickly things can go wrong when you take so much as a sip there is a poem by Edna St Vincent Millay called 'Not so far as the forest' and a quote in that poem has always struck home for me:

"Night falls fast
Today is in the past
Blown from the dark hill hither to my door
Three flakes, then four
Arrive, then many more"

Always chilled me to the bones. To everyone out there, if the night is falling fast around you, stay strong, the night passes, draw strength from whatever support you have around you and HOLD. ON. It's time to sleep for me over here in dreary old England.

May peace be with you all tonight.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:56 PM
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Found this on Youtube. There are also some great stories out there about alcoholism.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTH-Mrm8YS8
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:01 PM
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Today is day one of sobriety!
By the way, I lose my appetite when I'm frustrated too. That's actually one of the reasons why I'm getting sober: I've lost my appetite and lost weight that I really needed!
Day One - a day of promise and hope.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:17 PM
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day one is never bad for me, I had more day one's than I care to recall....for me the hardest is around day 3-5....
I've decided to make a short term goal of making it to 30 days and go from there, haven't stayed that sober for the last 4 years.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:29 PM
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Been spending a lot of time reading psychiatric journals about alcoholism and mental health issues. I have a chronic and severe case of brain cooties in addition to being an alcoholic, so it's an interesting ride. My psychiatrist has recently changed my diagnosis from major depression (treatment resistant) and social anxiety to bipolar 2 (rapid cycling) and social anxiety. Bipolar 2 patients have a 48.2% comorbidity rate of substance abuse, which surprised me a bit.

Being an armchair researcher, I've read all I can get my hands on about traditional and alternative bipolar treatment. Just read this on a pop psychology website and am a little annoyed: "Bipolar disorder can ruin your life, destroying your relationships and your career. It’s pointless to disregard the full destructive power of bipolar disorder. Because of it some people may have to considerably scale back their expectations in life". This part was fun too: "Some final thoughts about bipolar disorder are that it may be one of the worst illnesses we know; and, the treatments may leave a lot to be desired, but you’re not powerless". Yeah those quotes are total crap. Will filter what I read for awhile.

So I am trying to develop a "bag of tricks" to manage my alcoholism and interesting mental states. Thinking of taking advantage of the blog feature on this site to complain, remind and inspire myself to do self-care. I know what helps to some degree but the follow-through is difficult. I also have a lot of fuzzy moments when I forget how to do simple things. Hoping that blogging and writing myself notes will help.

There is also a mental health forum here so I should try that out. I need to remember that my commitment to sobriety is the most important form of self-care.

My current goal is to get dressed and go for a walk with my baby. I live in California and it is warm and sunny outside. Then I will clean the house a bit and come back to SR to read Team February's posts.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SoberLeigh View Post
I see-saw between losing my appetite and eating anything and everything within sight.
I do exactly the same thing- it's like I am too lazy to remember to eat and then when I get my hands on food I eat enough to feed the entire nation of Ethiopia.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:43 PM
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Welcome Marie - as you can see this is a great group - lots of wisdom and support here

Congratulations to anyone hitting a milestone today

Delphine - the good thing about the net is that anyone can have access to it and share their thoughts...the bad news is that anyone can have access to it and share their thoughts...lol :

A blog or journal sounds a good idea.

I always drank on weekends guys - not drinking took some effort....but what really took some effort was not sitting on the couch and watching TV, *as if* I was still drinking

Remember when you were a kid and you'd bound out of bed on Saturday cos the possibilities were endless?
it can, and probably should, still be like that.

There's a million things we can do without involving drugs or alcohol - think about those things - and do them

make your weekend count guys

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Old 02-22-2014, 02:13 PM
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I've been reminded of HALT in the past at SRS. I learned about it on SR, but never actually applied it. But I'm loading up my arsenal this time around.

I've read quite a few comment about diet and not eating or lack of appetite. And that brought me to suggesting this. I know many of you if not all of you are aware of HALT.

Just as a reminder though...An empty stomach created cravings for me.

So:

H - Hungry
A - Angry
L - Lonely
T - Tired

...All potential triggers. I understand that everyone is different, but just a reminder to keep these feelings in check or be self aware.

Thanks and Stay Strong !!
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:21 PM
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Finally ready to contribute. I've been following the February thread from the beginning. I haven't had a drink since January 28--25 days--which I'm pretty proud of. I went to doctor for oddly high pressure (I'm pretty fit) in January and she took some blood. My liver enzymes were super high so she ordered a liver ultrasound and hepatitis panel. That pretty much scared me straight, so I decided to give it up then and there. Thankfully, I've since received good results on my ultrasound and hepatitis was negative. Doc says my blood pressure is most likely the result of heavy drinking and she expects it to go down once I've stayed clean for awhile.

I've been drinking very heavily for the last 6 years or longer. Before that, I was a big drinker but it has gradually increased in my 30s. I'm in my late 30s now and it was not uncommon for me to drink a 1.75 liter bottle of whiskey over a 3-4 day period or quicker--all in the evenings and weekends. That of course was in addition to beer, wine, and pretty much anything else in social settings. I went to great lengths to hide the extent of my drinking, though I doubt I have fooled my close family. My parents have expressed that they think I drink a little too much, but I'm pretty sure they don't know the extent of it.

For the amazing amount that I was drinking, I have been pretty functional. I am very successful at my job with multiple promotions and nobody there would have any idea I'm an alcoholic. I do know I can be a better father and husband without drinking. Things have been rocky with the wife but we've been married a long time and get along ok. She knows I have a problem, but probably isn't aware of the extent of it. I'm not really a mean drunk or anything, but it's definitely made me do and say and do things I regret. I'm lucky I never picked up a DUI.

Anyway, for as much of a drinker I was, I am kind of surprised how "relatively" easy it has been to stop for the short term. It hasn't been easy by any means, but I've been able to keep busy exercising, reading this forum, and just thinking about being healthy for my kids. However, "never again" is hard for me to comprehend. I've got a Caribbean vacation coming up very soon. In the past, I would have consumed vast amounts of alcohol. I still haven't decided for myself if I'm going to abstain or attempt to limit it. Sounds crazy, I know, but it's the truth. I know that's a controversial subject for people here and it may very well be my AV speaking. I'm not sure. I will try my best to make the right decision and live with it. No matter what, I simply cannot go back to my old habits.

Sorry for the long post, but I guess it feels pretty good to get it out there. Haven't really talked to anyone else about this except my wife.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:30 PM
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Hi everyone,

2 weeks today, but I have been here so many times. AV has been in and out today, but just keep telling it NO. Took my daughter to a bd party earlier today (3 & 4 year olds). Part started at 11am and the father was offering us adult beverages. WTF? A could of dad's had beer and the Mom of the bd girl kept talking about how she was going to make margaritas later if anyone wanted to stay. I feel like I can't get away from it!! I drank Diet Dr Pepper and left before the margaritas started, but seriously. Didn't think I would have to deal with alcohol temptation at a 4 year olds bd party (did I mention it started at 11am??). Ugh. Home now and exhausted.

Hope everyone is doing well. Keep fighting the good fight. Some days are great and some are hard, but it's worth it every morning when we wake up hangover free
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:31 PM
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Today has been a bit hard, I made it to day 5 last month and then relapsed spectacularly. So I have that in the back of my mind. A few times today I thought about running to the liquor store, or finishing the wine that's in the fridge. Trying to just sit with those feelings until they pass.

I did get out with my partner today, went to a few antique centers and an art gallery. Nice to get out sober &'without kids.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:45 PM
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Finally ready to contribute. I've been following the February thread from the beginning. I haven't had a drink since January 28--25 days--which I'm pretty proud of. I went to doctor for oddly high pressure (I'm pretty fit) in January and she took some blood. My liver enzymes were super high so she ordered a liver ultrasound and hepatitis panel. That pretty much scared me straight, so I decided to give it up then and there. Thankfully, I've since received good results on my ultrasound and hepatitis was negative. Doc says my blood pressure is most likely the result of heavy drinking and she expects it to go down once I've stayed clean for awhile.

I've been drinking very heavily for the last 6 years or longer. Before that, I was a big drinker but it has gradually increased in my 30s. I'm in my late 30s now and it was not uncommon for me to drink a 1.75 liter bottle of whiskey over a 3-4 day period or quicker--all in the evenings and weekends. That of course was in addition to beer, wine, and pretty much anything else in social settings. I went to great lengths to hide the extent of my drinking, though I doubt I have fooled my close family. My parents have expressed that they think I drink a little too much, but I'm pretty sure they don't know the extent of it.

For the amazing amount that I was drinking, I have been pretty functional. I am very successful at my job with multiple promotions and nobody there would have any idea I'm an alcoholic. I do know I can be a better father and husband without drinking. Things have been rocky with the wife but we've been married a long time and get along ok. She knows I have a problem, but probably isn't aware of the extent of it. I'm not really a mean drunk or anything, but it's definitely made me do and say and do things I regret. I'm lucky I never picked up a DUI.

Anyway, for as much of a drinker I was, I am kind of surprised how "relatively" easy it has been to stop for the short term. It hasn't been easy by any means, but I've been able to keep busy exercising, reading this forum, and just thinking about being healthy for my kids. However, "never again" is hard for me to comprehend. I've got a Caribbean vacation coming up very soon. In the past, I would have consumed vast amounts of alcohol. I still haven't decided for myself if I'm going to abstain or attempt to limit it. Sounds crazy, I know, but it's the truth. I know that's a controversial subject for people here and it may very well be my AV speaking. I'm not sure. I will try my best to make the right decision and live with it. No matter what, I simply cannot go back to my old habits.

Sorry for the long post, but I guess it feels pretty good to get it out there. Haven't really talked to anyone else about this except my wife.
Great Post and thanks for sharing.

Essentially, you could have written this for me and my experiences and even the age, give or take a few years.

The escalating of consumption, the ability to function and be successful in your line of work and the rest, honestly, very parallel. Add in the consideration of when you would abstain or limit your consumption. I still battle with that.

I started on SR when I was 41. My intentions where to quit or limit my intake when I was 40. Here I am at 43, but not giving up and luckily still in very good shape, but definite hints of decline when I was drinking.

Just make sure you know what you are doing. I also chuckled to myself and was somewhat elated at my first attempt. I could probably find my first 3 or 4 weeks of posting with that similar message. I managed 63 days right off the bat. My confidence grew and looked and became healthier. I lost like 20 lbs...you get the point.

Then, on the 64th day I just went to the liquor store like a robot, and bought a pint of vodka.

I'm not undermining you by any means, I just don't you or anyone else to replicate the mistake I made. I want to help people, not get on their nerves.

I'm glad you decided that you are ready to contribute....Very happy for you!

Thanks and Stay Strong!!
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:46 PM
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Its Day 7 for me and feeling good, but I think therein lies my difficulty. I feel fine right now, and I'm confident I will be fine in the coming weeks, lots to focus on and i'm fortunate to be in a position without too many responsibilities and stressors at the moment (To all who are in difficult circumstances I salute you, you are SO strong)

I think my AV has talked me out of going to see the doctor this past week:

"Just go tomorrow"
"Go when you're feeling low"
"You might not need it this time"

Bitter, bitter experience tells me that I can NOT do this alone. Day 31 will roll around and I will be in no-man's land, and then all it takes is a setback, could be something minor, and I bypass the 'I'll just have one drink' stage and immediately want to drink my self to death. I do not know why it comes on so severely and so quickly.

I keep having terrible nightmares, I have mentioned before I used to work in a specialist school and part of the job required me to frequently have to physically restrain young people when they became violent. I was often kicked, hit, spat on and verbally abused. Because i'm a big guy I was often called on to do these restraints, it was incredibly challenging.

One child had a history worse than you can imagine, his case notes were tragic it haunts me how people can be so evil, I felt so sad for this child who was clearly a nice kid, but had suffered so much at the hands of others. I was his specialist support in class, and when he flipped, boy did he flip. We had an interesting relationship as we would get along great, but as soon as he was angry I was the first person to take the brunt of his rage.

He had this scream that I cannot get out of my head, when I had to restrain him he would scream, scream, scream. It's stunning how loud a child can scream, and this sounded inhuman. It was more like a roar, like opening a window to Hell itself and listening in. I would spend hours and days with this boy in crisis.

I often have nightmares about a couple of incidents that happened, replaying themselves over and over and over in my head.

I sometimes wonder if I may have a touch of PTSD, as I was often in physical danger and the job would definatly fall under the category of 'traumatic', it would explain why the dreams repeat and why I can't let it go. Alcohol withdrawal certainly makes them more vivid.

I thought I would share a little about my history because you guys are amazing, I have told others about my past before and how it affected me and they simply did not seem to understand. It's very alienating.

There are many positives though, firstly I have learned a great deal while at the school and after it, I saw both the best and worst of humanity at that place.

Hoping everyone has a strong and sober Saturday,
Make time for yourselves, treat yourselves, get out into the open air, do something you LOVE to do. Sobriety is happening NOW, enjoy it!

Peace to all
LS- You amaze me with all of your caring, and insightful posts. I'm sorry that you had those bad incidents at your school. I couldn't even imagine. Thank you for being a Febbie.. You always make me feel better.
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Old 02-22-2014, 03:28 PM
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:53 PM
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Welcome, MTV! Congrats on the 3.5 weeks so far. Thank you for your post...I really enjoyed it, and related with so much of it.

End of Day 8 for me. Watching my husband get a little bit drunk throughout the night was interesting--it definitely quelled most of the AV thoughts that popped up throughout the night.

The only time where I felt the sad pang of "never again" was while watching "Downton Abbey," of all things. A couple characters were having a nice moment over a small glass of champagne...and it just made me sad to think that I will never be able to share in something like that ever again. I know it's an attempt at AV rationalization, but it still feels like a loss.
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day 4 coming to a close here, still waiting for that decent nights sleep. averaging 4-5hrs a night of sleep. end up reading the life stories in the back of my big book until 1am or so. and I still cant sleep. any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:57 PM
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Hi everyone,

2 weeks today, but I have been here so many times. AV has been in and out today, but just keep telling it NO. Took my daughter to a bd party earlier today (3 & 4 year olds). Part started at 11am and the father was offering us adult beverages. WTF? A could of dad's had beer and the Mom of the bd girl kept talking about how she was going to make margaritas later if anyone wanted to stay. I feel like I can't get away from it!! I drank Diet Dr Pepper and left before the margaritas started, but seriously. Didn't think I would have to deal with alcohol temptation at a 4 year olds bd party (did I mention it started at 11am??). Ugh. Home now and exhausted.

Hope everyone is doing well. Keep fighting the good fight. Some days are great and some are hard, but it's worth it every morning when we wake up hangover free
Way to go, Ladybug; you hit the two week mark for sobriety AND resisted all kinds of temptation - all on the same day. It's really hard to escape the drinking crowd; they're everywhere; it's really tough when you have made a plan to stay within a "safety zone" and up pops the devil at a child's b.d. party. But you declined; you rock, Ladybug.
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