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I'm sort of veering off topic but the picture exchange thing is common and accepted among a large portion of the teen population. Beyond the moral and emotional portion when a teenager sends another teenager a nude selfie it is child pornography and if one of them forwards it (and they do) they are distributing child pornography and if they have those pictures at school (and they all have their phones at school) it is added legal ramifications. Boys and girls both do it. We had a group come to our school and they gathered self reported info and it was shocking even at the middle school level. I live in a very small town in the Midwest. I participate in other message boards that have all ages there - and it is not a dating or hook up site either it is a site for a TV show - and you would all be super shocked at what people post with zero peer pressure to do so. I can only imagine what goes on in PM's.
Talk with your teens.
Talk with your teens.
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Originally Posted by PippiLngstockng 
I keep thinking I am going to have to stop it with the married gorgeous narcissist athletes and start online dating to meet single men. But then I don't want to have to endure looking at strangers' willies just to maybe meet someone eventually who is a decent, honest, smart, nice-looking fellow that isn't an addict nor a narcissist.
Are my standards so impossibly high? If so, I'd just as well stay single and hang out with MG #2 when he flies west. He only sends me pictures of his travels and once a picture of his pretty face at the race we did together. And only because I asked.
I read you new posts and feel for you and your kids. I hope things are going okay and visits with dad are smooth.
I laughed when I read the above post from you. Please see the irony in what you are writing. I mean this from a friendly place.
Sometimes we have to see the broad view to put things into perspective.
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Pippi I have just caught up on your threads/posts & just wish to say that I think you are a remarkable women.
I am so sorry you are going through, my thoughts & prayers go with you.
You are a brilliant Mum & you are doing the best for your children, we owe them safety.
Thank God the kids have you.
I am so sorry you are going through, my thoughts & prayers go with you.
You are a brilliant Mum & you are doing the best for your children, we owe them safety.
Thank God the kids have you.
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I just wanted to thank you all.
And share this: xah is leaving tomorrow!!! Hallelujah!!!!!
We've been in the same country far too long. 3 weeks in the US and 2 weeks here. Agony!!!
In the meantime, I am figuring out why I am still sticking with MG #2. I met him far away from my life. He lives very far away from my life. He is coming to see me here in a few weeks, but still 3 hours from my home, and if we still like each other heaps we might see each other many hours south of here for the following month.
What is good about that is this: the children are far away from the (relatively unknown) man, I get a little vacation or two in lovely places with an intelligent, charming man who writes beautifully every day and doesn't send me pictures of his privates, and I don't have to worry about commitment, future, thinking ahead much because I have realized I am not ready to think too far beyond today.
The worst thing that could happen in getting involved with a man? Having them get involved with my children and doing something crazy/inappropriate with them. That is my biggest fear. So big that I would rather not risk it ever. I have beautiful children - beautiful daughters. I am practically beyond coping with all xah has done to us. How could I ever put them at risk again???
Thank you, as always, for letting me think this through with you all.
And share this: xah is leaving tomorrow!!! Hallelujah!!!!!
We've been in the same country far too long. 3 weeks in the US and 2 weeks here. Agony!!!
In the meantime, I am figuring out why I am still sticking with MG #2. I met him far away from my life. He lives very far away from my life. He is coming to see me here in a few weeks, but still 3 hours from my home, and if we still like each other heaps we might see each other many hours south of here for the following month.
What is good about that is this: the children are far away from the (relatively unknown) man, I get a little vacation or two in lovely places with an intelligent, charming man who writes beautifully every day and doesn't send me pictures of his privates, and I don't have to worry about commitment, future, thinking ahead much because I have realized I am not ready to think too far beyond today.
The worst thing that could happen in getting involved with a man? Having them get involved with my children and doing something crazy/inappropriate with them. That is my biggest fear. So big that I would rather not risk it ever. I have beautiful children - beautiful daughters. I am practically beyond coping with all xah has done to us. How could I ever put them at risk again???
Thank you, as always, for letting me think this through with you all.
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I hear you on the child-protecting in terms of keeping them away from your beaux. I applaud you for that.
When I read your description of your time with MG#2, I think "that sounds SO nice, such a departure from my day to day."
And might that be what it is to you? An escapist fantasy from the reality of AXH, raising four kids by yourself, constantly worried about money and legal proceedings?
When I read your description of your time with MG#2, I think "that sounds SO nice, such a departure from my day to day."
And might that be what it is to you? An escapist fantasy from the reality of AXH, raising four kids by yourself, constantly worried about money and legal proceedings?
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Not to mention my teens yelling at me that I should dress differently or complaining about my terrible accent or not having washed their bike clothes...
Stella, yes, it is SO nice. And escapist. Each day MG 2 writes something to me that is so lovely, clever, thoughtful and the time we spent together was so romantic, and planning this next time away together is dreamy.
Often he writes during his morning, which is my middle of the night. When I used to never be able to sleep because of the terrible worries. But now he writes me something and I can read his words and peacefully go back to sleep (!) or occasionally write back and I am not alone at 3am anymore.
And I love that he is far, far away in a world I may never experience where I don't have to deal with his actual person needing clean socks or help finding car keys or reminders to pick up the kids from soccer at 4:30. Or worrying that he is having an affair or drinking in the garage or up all night finding hook-ups on internet dating sites...i already know he is having an affair and maybe others and for this very particular moment I don't care. He actually told me he is married which is a little bit of honesty and like gold to me who lived with not only a cheat - but a lying, manipulating, abusive and scary, addicted cheat. Who usually seemed like the nicest guy in the whole world.
Stella, yes, it is SO nice. And escapist. Each day MG 2 writes something to me that is so lovely, clever, thoughtful and the time we spent together was so romantic, and planning this next time away together is dreamy.
Often he writes during his morning, which is my middle of the night. When I used to never be able to sleep because of the terrible worries. But now he writes me something and I can read his words and peacefully go back to sleep (!) or occasionally write back and I am not alone at 3am anymore.
And I love that he is far, far away in a world I may never experience where I don't have to deal with his actual person needing clean socks or help finding car keys or reminders to pick up the kids from soccer at 4:30. Or worrying that he is having an affair or drinking in the garage or up all night finding hook-ups on internet dating sites...i already know he is having an affair and maybe others and for this very particular moment I don't care. He actually told me he is married which is a little bit of honesty and like gold to me who lived with not only a cheat - but a lying, manipulating, abusive and scary, addicted cheat. Who usually seemed like the nicest guy in the whole world.
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I have no idea of why you would bring up MG # 2. For anyone who does not know what MG stands for it means married guy. There is MG #1, #2, and #3. At least 2 of your threads were closed because of this.
So for now
So for now
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Sorry, I didn't realize there had been thread closure over this issue. I was just wondering what would be attractive about a relationship in which there was never going to be a real, actual future, and I think it would be that exactly - the no real attachment.
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The threads were closed because some responses to my posts were rather a bit strong, not because of anything I wrote.
There is no MG #1 or 3 in my life. They are just people I know. No affairs, no indiscretions. Just people who had their suggestions and I never replied.
I don't think it is OT to puzzle out why I am developing a relationship with MG #2. I am trying to keep myself and my children in a good place while recognizing that there is someone new in my life that I am letting play a significant role for the time being and I know there are reasons to be wary. And I also feel that he seems to be primarily good for me at this particular juncture.
There is no MG #1 or 3 in my life. They are just people I know. No affairs, no indiscretions. Just people who had their suggestions and I never replied.
I don't think it is OT to puzzle out why I am developing a relationship with MG #2. I am trying to keep myself and my children in a good place while recognizing that there is someone new in my life that I am letting play a significant role for the time being and I know there are reasons to be wary. And I also feel that he seems to be primarily good for me at this particular juncture.
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While you're pondering, maybe you could ponder why you are attempting to turn a thread about whether your husband was intentionally showing your children pictures of his genitals into yet another "I love dating hot married guys" brag thread. Sorry if this response is too "strong" for you Pippi, but I find your logic and motivation quite baffling.
Not triggering, just baffling.
Not triggering, just baffling.
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Pippi....it shocked me and made me sad to hear that your kids were yelling at you for your accent and your manner of dress and not having washed their bike clothes!!!!!!
You have written so much about how loving your little family (minus husband) is when you are together. I understood that one of the major reason for having your children in another country was the cultural influences on them there---and I has thought that good and proper manners and conduct was a part of that---you know...the european philosophy of parenting.
That sounds sooo disrespectful to you by any standard. You have been so disrespected by others....do you not recognize that this is disrespectful treatment by your own children that you are breaking your back for?
I am not saying this to get on your case...absolutely not....but, I wonder if you recognize this as such?
Pippi...you have a right to demand respect for those who interact with you...especially your own children. Also, your teens are old enough to be doing their own laundry, for that matter. You are not their servant,you are their mother.
I feel so sad to hear this.....
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You have written so much about how loving your little family (minus husband) is when you are together. I understood that one of the major reason for having your children in another country was the cultural influences on them there---and I has thought that good and proper manners and conduct was a part of that---you know...the european philosophy of parenting.
That sounds sooo disrespectful to you by any standard. You have been so disrespected by others....do you not recognize that this is disrespectful treatment by your own children that you are breaking your back for?
I am not saying this to get on your case...absolutely not....but, I wonder if you recognize this as such?
Pippi...you have a right to demand respect for those who interact with you...especially your own children. Also, your teens are old enough to be doing their own laundry, for that matter. You are not their servant,you are their mother.
I feel so sad to hear this.....
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I'm sorry, totally trying. I don't feel braggish, I feel baffled. I don't think I feel so proud as you seem to think. I don't think there's much reason to brag. Quite the opposite, one might say.
As to my darling teenagers. No, they are lovely when out in the world but they have their moments here that are trying. And yes I completely see that they sometimes disrespect me. I used to feel this more acutely. Punishments and long conversations didn't seem to help. Just exhausted me. Now I try to maintain my own inner calm and speak from the heart and use humor when appropriate and they come around and settle down and recognize usually when they are wrong and apologize.
There's still lots of love here. And they are still wonderful people. But it isn't always easy.
As to my darling teenagers. No, they are lovely when out in the world but they have their moments here that are trying. And yes I completely see that they sometimes disrespect me. I used to feel this more acutely. Punishments and long conversations didn't seem to help. Just exhausted me. Now I try to maintain my own inner calm and speak from the heart and use humor when appropriate and they come around and settle down and recognize usually when they are wrong and apologize.
There's still lots of love here. And they are still wonderful people. But it isn't always easy.
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He actually told me he is married which is a little bit of honesty and like gold to me
Actually I've wondered about this theme of getting involved with married men and then being surprised to learn their relationship status once you are in it. Don't you ask?
P.S. @dandylion do you have teenagers? I'm thinking no!
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Do you think of the wife, or her children? Do you know what they are going through? Do you know that whatever money he is spending on you, is half hers. So you go away for this romantic whatever, he's a big spender, of course he has to be, he wants sex. So he spends a lot of money, say perhaps $4000. That was $2000 of her money. Did you imagine or can you see that perhaps she just wanted to buy a new pair of shoes because they were on sale and she hasn't bought anything for herself in over 3 years, and he yells at her and curses at her because she overspends.
This is the life that many of us on here have gone through. But you are OK with all of that, you also went through this.
I don't know, I think sometimes if I had a problem with something, say like doing retail shopping and spending lots of money that I don't have, I would seek therapy before a retail shopping trip.
You come here telling us that you have a problem with married men, but instead of seeking therapy to help you deal with it, you instead want to date married men, and I don't know, I guess we are supposed to be OK with that and condone that?
Yes, this does sound like another thread in which you are justifying using a married man. That is JMHO. I think you should seek therapy instead.
This is the life that many of us on here have gone through. But you are OK with all of that, you also went through this.
I don't know, I think sometimes if I had a problem with something, say like doing retail shopping and spending lots of money that I don't have, I would seek therapy before a retail shopping trip.
You come here telling us that you have a problem with married men, but instead of seeking therapy to help you deal with it, you instead want to date married men, and I don't know, I guess we are supposed to be OK with that and condone that?
Yes, this does sound like another thread in which you are justifying using a married man. That is JMHO. I think you should seek therapy instead.
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I would also suggest that you get tested for STD's perhaps tell his wife to get tested also, because you can be pretty sure that he plants his stick in many more ports then yours.
P.S. I just really don't understand why you would want to keep bringing this up and posting about it. It upsets people here, because we are the "wives". Have you figured that out yet?
P.S. I just really don't understand why you would want to keep bringing this up and posting about it. It upsets people here, because we are the "wives". Have you figured that out yet?
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I was a single parent since my daughter was 7, she is now 32. I raised her with child support and my family's support socially. because I would never be without a job. I do not have a full degree, but I busted my buttisimo to work and provide the nice things. My divorce also took 3 years, I didn't have time to join a team, I spent my extra time waitressing to make ends meet. today I am a high level surgical admin. in Medical Education.
my daughter grew up with waking on school days to seeing Mommy exercise at home to keep fit, my daughter grew up seeing me date single men who respected both of us. We all had Sunday dinners together...if the relationships ended they ended for normal reasons, not because I was taking some else's husband away from their family.
These are MY standards and they remain high. I raised my child to stand on her own two feet and not depend on any man for anything. (She is married and in Graduate School pre-law).
Pippi you have posted for the last how year about how difficult it is to get support, how you can't get a job, how you have no $$ for food or shoes for your kids....yet you are going on vacation in another country....your priorities seem to be confused.
Please consider what you are saying before you post it. and stop spouting the garbage that the threads were closed because of others "strong responses" You seem to have a real need for bragging about the men by numbering your conquests and seek attention for this again and again.
I hope that you find some self-respect soon.
my daughter grew up with waking on school days to seeing Mommy exercise at home to keep fit, my daughter grew up seeing me date single men who respected both of us. We all had Sunday dinners together...if the relationships ended they ended for normal reasons, not because I was taking some else's husband away from their family.
These are MY standards and they remain high. I raised my child to stand on her own two feet and not depend on any man for anything. (She is married and in Graduate School pre-law).
Pippi you have posted for the last how year about how difficult it is to get support, how you can't get a job, how you have no $$ for food or shoes for your kids....yet you are going on vacation in another country....your priorities seem to be confused.
Please consider what you are saying before you post it. and stop spouting the garbage that the threads were closed because of others "strong responses" You seem to have a real need for bragging about the men by numbering your conquests and seek attention for this again and again.
I hope that you find some self-respect soon.
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The threads were closed because some responses to my posts were rather a bit strong, not because of anything I wrote
man do you know how to re-write history or what??? you keep going on and on and on about your stable of MARRIED MEN. do you realize where you are posting? do you even care? you are talking about getting into a RELATIONSHIP with somebody else's HUSBAND. and say he's good for you. and how you might introduce him to your kids. THAT is why your threads keep getting closed....because you go back to the MARRIED MEN. even when you start a thread supposedly concerned for your children's well=being. how the number of which married man you are trolling for comes in to play I don't get.....
man do you know how to re-write history or what??? you keep going on and on and on about your stable of MARRIED MEN. do you realize where you are posting? do you even care? you are talking about getting into a RELATIONSHIP with somebody else's HUSBAND. and say he's good for you. and how you might introduce him to your kids. THAT is why your threads keep getting closed....because you go back to the MARRIED MEN. even when you start a thread supposedly concerned for your children's well=being. how the number of which married man you are trolling for comes in to play I don't get.....
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I guess until now I did not know what MG stood for. Now I do.
Pipi, my husband had an affair and has sent inappropriate txts and messages to other women during his active addictions. This killed me. I still suffer from the effects of it all. I randomly cry and ask why. I was/am a damn good wife. I would never ever cheat.
Reading this in your posts makes me literally feel ill and upset. How could you do that? How do you sleep at night knowing he has a wife at home? Does she know he is a pig? Does she know he could bring home a special gift (std) to her? Maybe they have an open marriage, but why do you want to be a part of that? What the hell?!? Have you been hurt so bad by your x that you want to hurt others? I don't understand. I just don't even want to. You need help.
Pipi, my husband had an affair and has sent inappropriate txts and messages to other women during his active addictions. This killed me. I still suffer from the effects of it all. I randomly cry and ask why. I was/am a damn good wife. I would never ever cheat.
Reading this in your posts makes me literally feel ill and upset. How could you do that? How do you sleep at night knowing he has a wife at home? Does she know he is a pig? Does she know he could bring home a special gift (std) to her? Maybe they have an open marriage, but why do you want to be a part of that? What the hell?!? Have you been hurt so bad by your x that you want to hurt others? I don't understand. I just don't even want to. You need help.
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