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Old 08-15-2014, 11:33 PM
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Children Find Selfie Porn on Dad's Phone

Yuck.

The teens say they will be scarred for life. Why does he give the children his phone to play with, letting them stumble on his photos of his bottom half? Along with downloaded shots of young women and all, mixed in between photos of his travels and our children playing in the treehouse, grandparents' visits and such?

What do I do with this?

I am packing up my younger two to go on a weekend camping trip with xah in the mountains and I am just totally grossed out and wondering if I have to send them. I have no reason to believe he is inappropriate with them physically, but he exposed them to something in such a random, thoughtless way. Was this random? Intentional? I just found out last night.

I don't care what he does in his private time. Just let it be private! DD14 says she'll never get over this.

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Ow! I am so angry with you on this Pippi! And for your kids. Why do they do this s***? Before I left my RAH, I had a tablet with some family photos I went to show SIL when she visited. Flicking through, came across this one I sure didn't take and I remember that awful moment ... 'What's that, oh s****!' Fast forward, confusion, trying to cover up to SIL. And the anger that the whole thing created for me ....ok, this is 65 year old guy, taking a selfie of his d**** in close up on my tablet! hold that thought and ask yourself why? So I deleted it at the first chance, and asked him the question the next day. His answer - well, he wanted to paint it (as in watercolour)! And was mad at me for deleting it. You know, after all the other worse stuff he has said and done to me, this is one of three things that stick right up there in my mind as plain sick. So for your kids to get to see this is right off limits, and no more phone to play with. I guess your daughter won't ever go near it again anyway, but I so feel your rage on this, and hope you get to call him big time on it, hugs x
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What do you do with this? If he isn't aware of that his child saw this picture, he should be alerted. It would be nice to think he will be mortified, but the purpose is to hopefully have him be more protective of what they can see/access on his devices. It is not your responsibility to teach him a lesson here, and regardless he probably wouldn't acknowledge or understand your concern if you tried.
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I just sent an email to xah telling him that several of the children found porn in his main phone photo album. I told him to clean up his phone and never expose the children to adult content again. And that they are traumatized by what they saw.

I also warned him that I may take additional action on this.

He needs strong limits.

Ugh.

I assume he is sending these d*** photos to others?

No. Just don't go there Pippi!!!

Thank you for your helpful replies, everyone!!!
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This is horrible. I hate that it happened to your kids. I have no advice, just wanted to say I'm sorry.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:20 AM
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I am sorry you are having to deal with this. I have never understood the fascination of people taking pictures of their body parts. I just don't get it.

I work for a cell phone company and I've had people actually in a panic because they have lost their phones and want to know if I can erase pictures remotely from my computer because they are very questionable pictures. Ummmmm....... no.
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What makes it worse is that DD7 was crying leaving me this morning.

She is too young to be able to protect herself or express and defend herself when necessary. And she is such a nice person. She wants everyone to be happy and will easily sacrifice herself without thinking.

My poor angels.
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If it were me in this situation, I Wouldn't
send them. If they are already gone, I'd
go get them. As a parent, it is my responsibility
to protect them from that and other dangers
that lurk.

I would say, if it were my kids, I have to
protect them. They need a parent to guide
them, protect them from dangers. It is
my responsibility to set a good healthy
example for them to follow because one
day they will be parents and what they
learn today will guide them in making
healthy choices for their own children.

Sex and children don't mix. It's inappropriate,
and dangerous. Unhealthy.

If they left scared, I would believe that
that will be a lasting impact on them and
will never forget me allowing them to
go off with a parent that was suppose to
protect them from things like sex in the
world at their age.

I have to be the protective parent in this
situation no matter what.

Just my opinion as always.

Be strong for you and ur babies.
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That is certainly what I would do if the courts were not involved.

Trouble is, the courts have their rules and I do not want to get in trouble with the judge for interfering with the children's visits with their father.

Having said that, this particular visit is not officially court-ordered. I agreed to it purely on xah's request.

If I show up at the campground to take the children, it is going to be a huge scene.

I might just go and get them anyway. That is why I started this thread and emailed the lawyers first thing.
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:06 AM
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If starting a scene to go rescue YOUR BABIES,
I would do it. Their safety from PORN sick
father of your babies is worth it.

Can you call it abuse? I would. It is mentally
emotional abuse to your little ones. These
are your babies, and if they were mine,
have good reason to show the courts
that my little ones are in danger of abuse.

What has happened already has affected
them as one has indicated already. She
showed scared emotion before she left.

I would get someone in authority like your
own lawyer to go with you and have it noted
what has happened so far and that way you
are doing all you need to do to protect urself
and ur babies.

Just my thoughts as always.

Stay safe, responsible, concerned parent,
strong, healthy, and the best example for
you and ur babies.

An unofficially court order, request
with him having a visit with the kids.....
whose going out of the law? Not you.

You have a legal reason to go rescue
them.
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At the police after advice. Will let you know.
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:23 AM
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I think my DS has seen porn at AXH's. He's young and won't talk about it, but he's acted out in ways inappropriate for his age.

Giving kids a porn-laden phone underscores the addict's negligence with children and lack of empathy. IMO, it is more evidence of the need for any visitation to be supervised.
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Sticking my neck out here..so be it..Pippi..it is porn..it is disgusting and it will
leave a mark on your children...don't doubt it..a pervert will condition his
subjects regardless.. My mother in my mind was weak less..don't be my mother
and let your children have a future of wondering where the heck you were!
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Pippi..as a child..one cannot have the experience or life skills or even expression'
of speech, yet not even knowing you for ten minutes..I hear your children..they
are reaching out to be saved..please listen..
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At campground entrance. Reported to police after getting advice from national domestic hotline. The hotline worker told me that xah's exposing children to porn on his phone is illegal, whether intentional or not. And that I am liable if something should happen as they are in my care and this stupid visit isn't even court-ordered.

I have to have my lawyer write to the judge on Monday. In the meantime I am going to get my kiddos. DS17 is with me and I have all of my legal papers. I hope to get help from campground staff and stay calm. I don't want to get into explanations with xah. I just want to say that something came up and I'd write to him about it later.

Wish me luck!
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Im with you as I hope all those concern here
with your SR. family and support are. There is
always good, healthy, positive, suggestions,
guidance for situation we need help with just
like you did here earlier when seeking help.

We never have to go thru anything alone
by ourselves, so im wishing you safe help
in getting your babies back home in a safe,
secure, healthy environment with you.

Keep us posted on how you are doing
and know that SR is here for you, like they
are for me.
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wow!
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:31 AM
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I dunno.....we found my dad's porn mags and saw pictures of my neighbors' sexual escapades when we were kids. I really can't say that it scarred me for life. Yeah, it's gross, but is it criminal? I think that's taking it a bit too far.
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I completely disagree. That is definitely illegal, and should be reported. We as parents have an absolutel responsibility to protect our children from NUDE PICTURES OF OURSELVES. There isn't an "Ooops, sorry" that fixes seeing your parent in sexually explicit pictures.
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I will only say my experience as a kid - stash of dad's stuff was found pretty early.
and don't think I had many pals who's dad's didn't have magazines.
Basically I was just like "how can they be so perfect?" or "whaat?" or *gag*
I was maybe 10?

When 1st cell phones were bought around 2004(?) my hubby and I used to send a few pictures back and forth when he was on fishing trips. Plain old fun. Certainly not what I'd call porn.

Of course, were my 12 year old daughter to grab one of those old phones, charge it, go into the pictures? I'd be damned mortified and she would be grossed out.
But beyond that, I'm pretty sure she's figured out how we managed to conceive her. We have THOSE PARTS.

Criminal? I'm just not seeing that part of this scenario?
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