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Old 01-11-2017, 06:41 AM
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:20 AM
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I don't know your wife, of course, but judging from what you wrote here and elsewhere, I would wager that she doesn't want to have to deal with the uncertainty of another child/patient in the house "relapsing" all the time, and wants you to support her and the family instead, as husbands and fathers should naturally want to do.

It doesn't sound like she divorced you yet, so it's possible that you can salvage the situation, if you stop playing the role of "patient" in the family, with your wife playing the role of nurse, and adopt the role of father instead. I agree with Scott's assessment that this probably isn't just a bad habit, since it is completely clouding your views, and your judgement.

I also agree with the grenade analogy. You can either fight for yourself, and for your family, or let the grenade explode, and eventually destroy everything. I know this probably stings, but this is not "tough love" or "denial busting" on my part. Sometimes we need to be reminded that we are not merely victims of circumstances, and that we do have some responsibility.

If you really cannot imagine a life without your wife and family, then prove it, and fight for them. Stand up, and get that one single idiocy - drinking - completely out of your life. It may take your wife some time to trust you again, but letting her know that you are finally done with drinking, as you originally promised, and are willing to support her, would be a good start.

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I am a wife who left after many years of marriage and him saying he did not have a problem.

At times he hid it pretty well, and I wanted to believe him. When I got ready to leave, he said he would quit- without AA and without throwing out the booze. He wanted to save it for entertaining guests, he said. yea right.

It has been a long time since my AH has supported me, been dependable, been an adult. You are right- I played the nurse. I researched alcoholism and I did not want to deal with relapses or the rest of it. I had been in too much pain for too long and I was fed up.

I did hold out a little hope after I left. If I had been treated with kindness, respect, love , and understanding, I would have returned to counselling with him. But I guess if you have just quit drinking, it is hard to summon up those qualities. So maybe I was expecting way too much.

But I want a good relationship now and being in that marriage was damaging for me. I am much happier and have peace now.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:46 AM
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Yes. I got sober for 4 years. Relapsed. Thought I had everything under control. I didn't. Had 2 weeks of new sobriety. We got into an argument. She left. So I drank.
We've been together 18 years. I don't know what I'm going to do without her.
Mester,

You've had 1,460 days sober and a couple days of swing and miss. If you were a baseball and we were going by averages you would be hall of fame bound.

At the risk of repeating what has already been mentioned: don't throw gas on the fire by drinking.

You have a shoulder to lean on here, don't be afraid to use it.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:56 AM
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It has been a long time since my AH has supported me, been dependable, been an adult. You are right- I played the nurse. I researched alcoholism and I did not want to deal with relapses or the rest of it. I had been in too much pain for too long and I was fed up.
Thank you for chiming in, qtpi. I don't believe in the 'tough love' idea, but addiction warps perceptions, and I'm sure that your post may help in some fashion. Please know that my 'nurse' remark was not meant derisively towards those who find themselves in that position.

Take care, and be well.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:31 PM
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Thanks for the support. You are all amazing people. I'mjust taking it one day at a time. I just hope I have lost her forever

Goodnight SR
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:45 PM
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Nice to see you back mester. What conclusions have you reached?
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:46 PM
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Night Mester! Thanks for checking in!
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:47 PM
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I just hope I have lost her forever
Don't you mean 'haven't'?

Maybe you should focus on your recovery and give her time to herself. Show her by your behavior that you are becoming a better man.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:10 AM
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Good to see you Mester. Keep checking in please.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:13 AM
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Hey Mester, I'm happy that you've checked in. Any plans for working on your recovery?
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:14 AM
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Hey Mester, I'm happy that you've checked in. Any plans for working on your recovery?
Going to meetings. Doing some outpatient counseling
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:17 AM
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Don't you mean 'haven't'?
You're right. I hope I haven't lost her forever.
I'm giving her her space. Im hoping I can talk to her by the end of the week
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:58 AM
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You're right. I hope I haven't lost her forever.
I'm giving her her space. Im hoping I can talk to her by the end of the week
I don't mean for this to be negative in the least, but hope and talk won't get you anywhere. The only thing that matters at this point is action. Don't drink. No matter what. Get the help that you need to prevent you from drinking. Do whatever it takes. Just don't take one more sip. You've done it before, you can do it again. Hold your head high and fight for yourself, for your life, through the very simple action of not drinking.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:10 AM
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the day after my last drunk my (by then ex) fiancé tossed me to the curb. that's what it took for me to get out of denial and accept that alcohol was the common denominator in all my problems.
I was crushed, but wanted to do something about it- not just stop drinking, but find out why I was who I was. i did have the hope that by stopping drinking, learning about me, and changing who i was she would accept me back, but my #1 reason was for me- i hated me and everything about me. i really had to fight off the thought of doing it for her. too many times in my past i stopped drinking for people,places and things and ended up drunk again- longest i ever stayed sober before was about a month doing it that way.
i didn't want to hate me or be me any more.
i found myself at an AA meeting. got the big book and started working the program. i learned causes and conditions for who i was, learned what made me tick, and how to change. had to miracles happen:
1) the problem with alcohol was removed.
2) i stopped hating myself and started loving me.

we didn't get back together, but im ok with that. im ok with who i am today.

you will get better,mester, iffen ya do it for you.

youre not a bad man, just a sick one and there IS a solution.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:21 PM
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Going to meetings. Doing some outpatient counseling
"There is an easy way and a hard way to recovery from alcoholism. The hard way is by just going to meetings." — Dr. Bob Smith
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:03 PM
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Happy to hear from you again, Mester! Please stay in touch - folks here care about you!
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:08 PM
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"There is an easy way and a hard way to recovery from alcoholism. The hard way is by just going to meetings." — Dr. Bob Smith
I'm not sure how to take this.How you want me to describe my plan. I have a sponsor. I'm doing outpatient as well as meetings. I'm staying active on here. When she comes back, marriage counseling. What else is there to do?
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:36 PM
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That sounds pretty good, Mester.

I believe Dr. Bob meant that simply going to lots of meetings and listening to lots of drunk-a-logues is probably going to make for a struggle.

I would add, remove the drink as an option entirely.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:15 PM
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I'm not sure how to take this.How you want me to describe my plan. I have a sponsor. I'm doing outpatient as well as meetings. I'm staying active on here. When she comes back, marriage counseling. What else is there to do?
That sounds like a great start Mester. Do whatever you can to stay sober and make it last...that is the only thing that matters right now.
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:03 AM
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I'm not sure how to take this.How you want me to describe my plan. I have a sponsor. I'm doing outpatient as well as meetings. I'm staying active on here. When she comes back, marriage counseling. What else is there to do?
Steps?
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