Class of October 2015 Part 2
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Help and need - I am all about lists too! Of course only when I'm not drinking. I have a little planner book that I'm writing in constantly - but once I start a drinking cycle, I don't even open it. Its like that part of me disappears. And I miss her. Top my list also is no drinking. Nothing changes in my life if I don't. From little things like cleaning out a closet to big things like relationships or taking care of myself.
Also, your daughters birthdays sound fun Stuff like that seems to be where it's at.
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Member of the July class who's back to Day 2. This one hurts more than usual, and it's not just the cravings/hangover/PAWS. I managed to lose my job this time. I'm trying to look at it as a blessing because it was a massive source of stress at a time when I needed to be focused on my disease. But I let a lot of people down. Thankfully, everyone I've talked to has been understanding. My wife was the biggest source of strength. In the past there would have been a lot of anger and threats after a mistake like this. Not this time. She saw how much pain I was in and really took charge of the situation. The last few years have been hell for her, but we've been together for more than fifteen. She believes in me, but knows that I can't give one inch to my disease. I need to treat it like diabetes, something I could have prevented but a manageable sickness. I've taken the first step and, for the first time, I'm 100% committed to recovery. There's no job to worry about and no emotional abuse or constant shaming from my wife. I'll be posting every day to track my progress. I did that back in July and it was nice to go back and read my posts again. It reminded me that these feelings I'm having right now will pass. I can be healthy again. I just need to stay vigilant. Thanks for reading this. I hope I'll never have to be in this position again, but it helps to hear that others have made it through similar situations.
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Hi, guys! Today is day 10 and I'm feeling pretty good. Still playing the tape(s). Like many of you have mentioned, being in those environments where others are drinking of even thinking of times (like lunch outside on a patio) that make me want to drink have been hard. I totally have the jealousy thing. I see people going to happy hour and having cocktails at their leisure and it makes me really sad. But then I remember that those people can have a couple and go home. Me? I go home only after i've drank much faster than everyone else and only after i've stopped at the liquor store before reaching home. And there's a good chance I might go back before the night is up. And then, while those sweet little happy hour goers are long asleep, I'm still plowing through booze at 1am, passing out at 3am and waking up with a wicked hangover wondering how I'm going to function at work. All because I went to happy hour. (There's one of my tapes I play) I really am so thankful for the whole 'playing the tape' explanation. I've said it before, I know, but it really helps me get over the jealousy thing and pushes the cravings away. So something I recently noticed after my drinking.... When I wake up the next day, I'm congested. If I talk, just about anyone who knew me would ask if I was getting sick. And then, a day or two later, its gone. This started happening every time I drank up until my sobriety started 10 days ago for about 3 weeks. My ears also did this weird thing every time I hiccup/burp for a few days after also. I googled it the most common answer was that it is an indication of an alcohol intolerance (allergy). I'm 33 and have been drinking for well over a decade and never had this happen. All of a sudden I have an alcohol intolerance? Anyone else have anything like this happen to them?? So anyways, that being said, it sorta freaks me out and its actually been something that drives me to stay sober. I've been feeling pretty strong but between now and about 3 weeks it gets pretty hard. I'm just praying my mind doesn't try to give me a hard time in the next 10 days or so. Days 10-20... UGH What are the hardest days for everyone else when you're trying stay sober?!
I've had the congestion. I'd get it in the morning after drinking, like part of the hangover. It always made sense to me, since I and some people get basically a cold when going through withdrawal, complete with sneezing and cough. I never thought of it as an intolerance ... That's crazy.
My hardest days this time have been ... Ugh. I swear every day so far is harder than the one before it. The first few weeks were so easy. Things have gotten harder as I've gone along. I don't think that's normal. :/
In the past my hardest days were also more numerous the more time I had.
This is something ima try not to think about.
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Sugar is great. I eat ice cream with fruit in it (to pretend it's real food :p ) every night at 1 am
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Hi all! Closing day 24 soon with an episode of the X-Files.
Welcome to the new folks, Sadie, others I missed.
My update ...
I finally had a "drinking dream" last night. Up to now, I'd been having these bizarre but delightful things I call "anti-drinking" dreams. I would be presented in the dream with alcohol and then remember, oh, I don't drink anymore, and I wouldn't drink.
Alas, not last night. Last night I was apparently entering a singing competition (I don't sing), and I was dreading it, so I figured I'd drink and do some coke right beforehand to call my nerves during the songs.
Weird: I've never even done cocaine.
At least I didn't actually get to be part where I did drink. But I'm shaken by the ease with which I made the decision, in the dream, to get through the scary thing by using alcohol.
Anyway ... Things are still mostly good tho. Getting harder, but still good.
Welcome to the new folks, Sadie, others I missed.
My update ...
I finally had a "drinking dream" last night. Up to now, I'd been having these bizarre but delightful things I call "anti-drinking" dreams. I would be presented in the dream with alcohol and then remember, oh, I don't drink anymore, and I wouldn't drink.
Alas, not last night. Last night I was apparently entering a singing competition (I don't sing), and I was dreading it, so I figured I'd drink and do some coke right beforehand to call my nerves during the songs.
Weird: I've never even done cocaine.
At least I didn't actually get to be part where I did drink. But I'm shaken by the ease with which I made the decision, in the dream, to get through the scary thing by using alcohol.
Anyway ... Things are still mostly good tho. Getting harder, but still good.
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I've been having some issues with my social interactions as well nmd. Some days I can do them and some days I have to really put some effort into it.
Basically, if I'm feeling OK then my conversation turns out fine. But if I'm feeling down and out or anxious then I almost feel as if the person I'm speaking with knows I am feeling this way, which makes my social interaction a bit weird and awkward.
Just letting you know I can relate to the hard to deal with social interactions.
Hope all is well Class of October. I'm still chugging along, longest stint I've done in over a year!
Basically, if I'm feeling OK then my conversation turns out fine. But if I'm feeling down and out or anxious then I almost feel as if the person I'm speaking with knows I am feeling this way, which makes my social interaction a bit weird and awkward.
Just letting you know I can relate to the hard to deal with social interactions.
Hope all is well Class of October. I'm still chugging along, longest stint I've done in over a year!
It's a simple idea really, a twist on what are you going to do differently this time. Plans x and y weren't enough to stay sober last time. What is the plan z that will bring you final sobriety? Instead of doing the minimum and just not drinking, it got me thinking: how do I make this stick
Nmd, I also wanted to comment on the poem you linked to--I may not drink anymore, but Bukowski is still a favorite of mine. His novel "Factotum" shows how he can both be a chronic unapologetic alcoholic, and believe ghe stuff he says in The Laughing Heart. It's such a good book. I recommend it for anyone who isn't triggered by depictions of people drinking. But then there's his poem "The Ice Cream People." It's pretty much the only thing he wrote about a time in his life he was trying to stay sober (for health reasons). It sticks in the head in a big way. It's a
Ice cream people... that was funny and sad at the same time. To feel so out of place in a normal sober situation. If only I could feel that out of place when around drinking.
I just wanted to post it. I think a lot about this poem. I always had this term in my head I'd use, "open door people." That's people who don't close the doors to the rooms they occupy, it doesn't even occur to them to close the doors, because they never have anything to hide or be ashamed of. Open door people leave their papers all over their desks, and the doors open anyway, because they don't care if you read what they're writing about. A person who has always been an open door person, who did not have to learn to be an open door person, is a very special individual. Be friends with any such open door people you meet.
After I read this poem, I think of them as open door/ice cream people. They are a happy people. And I am not one of them. But I can appreciate them, and emulate them, and learn from them.
:P
After I read this poem, I think of them as open door/ice cream people. They are a happy people. And I am not one of them. But I can appreciate them, and emulate them, and learn from them.
:P
I've been having some issues with my social interactions as well nmd. Some days I can do them and some days I have to really put some effort into it.
Basically, if I'm feeling OK then my conversation turns out fine. But if I'm feeling down and out or anxious then I almost feel as if the person I'm speaking with knows I am feeling this way, which makes my social interaction a bit weird and awkward.
Just letting you know I can relate to the hard to deal with social interactions.
Hope all is well Class of October. I'm still chugging along, longest stint I've done in over a year!
Basically, if I'm feeling OK then my conversation turns out fine. But if I'm feeling down and out or anxious then I almost feel as if the person I'm speaking with knows I am feeling this way, which makes my social interaction a bit weird and awkward.
Just letting you know I can relate to the hard to deal with social interactions.
Hope all is well Class of October. I'm still chugging along, longest stint I've done in over a year!
Unrelated to everything else, I lost an old friend this weekend. She had pneumonia and her body gave in after a brief fight. She and her husband were my very close friends but were also part of the old happy hour crowd, and we haven't hung out in about a year.
Making the sympathy phone call when some has died was horrible in ways that is hard to explain. It also digs up a lot of feelings when the friendship has been neglected. I want to repair the friendship with the husband but I also know that there's a good chance that won't happen. The whole situation is just all around sad for me; losing and old friend, losing friendships that I can't repair because the other party is holding a grudge. The wake is Thursday, hopefully that will bring some closure.
Making the sympathy phone call when some has died was horrible in ways that is hard to explain. It also digs up a lot of feelings when the friendship has been neglected. I want to repair the friendship with the husband but I also know that there's a good chance that won't happen. The whole situation is just all around sad for me; losing and old friend, losing friendships that I can't repair because the other party is holding a grudge. The wake is Thursday, hopefully that will bring some closure.
thank you!! Your encouragement is much appreciated
I am definitely feeling better than I have in years and looking a lot healthier too!
A little over 2 years ago, I got out of rehab at 29 days, went to a meeting at 30 days to get my chip, and on the 31st day I started drinking again. With a few exceptions here and there, I've pretty much been a daily drinker ever since then (and weekends total binging). I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I have got my eye on a prize- at 32 days that will be my longest in 7 years. I want it BAD!!!! I can only get there one day at a time, but I am definitely already entertaining thoughts of how amazing that will feel! Thanks for being on this journey with me : )
I am definitely feeling better than I have in years and looking a lot healthier too!
A little over 2 years ago, I got out of rehab at 29 days, went to a meeting at 30 days to get my chip, and on the 31st day I started drinking again. With a few exceptions here and there, I've pretty much been a daily drinker ever since then (and weekends total binging). I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I have got my eye on a prize- at 32 days that will be my longest in 7 years. I want it BAD!!!! I can only get there one day at a time, but I am definitely already entertaining thoughts of how amazing that will feel! Thanks for being on this journey with me : )
I wonder how common it is that people do that?
I will be rooting for you big time! 32 days is almost here. You totally got this 👍🏻☀️😎
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