QUESTION? Valerian root for insomnia?
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QUESTION? Valerian root for insomnia?
Hi- I need some advice... I have a little over a year of sobriety and I have had insomnia lately. I went to GNC (General Nutrition Center) the other day and they said Valerian Root is a herb that promotes healthy sleep. They said it was all natural and non-addictive.
I just want to make sure this isn't considered "mind-altering"? It's a herb. Hmmmmmmmmmm ???
What do you think AA would think?
Any advice????
Thanks!
I just want to make sure this isn't considered "mind-altering"? It's a herb. Hmmmmmmmmmm ???
What do you think AA would think?
Any advice????
Thanks!
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Insomnia? 42 Simple Tips to Help You Get to Sleep - Insomnia treatment, cures
I don't like to sleep....never have...
.so I have no personal experieness with sleep aids.
About AA and my general health......what I take
why I take ....is a medical matter between my
doctors and myself. I have no reason to
discuss my meds in meetings.
All my best.....
Insomnia? 42 Simple Tips to Help You Get to Sleep - Insomnia treatment, cures
I don't like to sleep....never have...
.so I have no personal experieness with sleep aids.
About AA and my general health......what I take
why I take ....is a medical matter between my
doctors and myself. I have no reason to
discuss my meds in meetings.
All my best.....
Hi
I have used valerian root. It doesn't put me right to sleep. It has a mild calming effect and I think it does help a little get to me to sleep. I like it, no side effects. I don't use it regularly.
I have used melatonin. It actually works a little better, but I don't like it. For me, it makes me cranky the next day, my experience is not typical and I haven't heard many complain about that. Rozerem is a prescription sleep medicine and it is somewhat based on melatonin... it works a little bit, but like the melatonin.... makes ME cranky.
Both of these work better if used regularly, so for a one night "stand", may not work as well.
I like plain old benadryl. Some may object... mind altering and all that... For me, it does not affect my sobriety, doesn't cause any cravings, and I feel better if I sleep. I think it's fine, although some don't... my brother is 24 years sober, he uses it too, occasionally and he doesn't worry about it either.
What you need to do is your business, whether it affects your sobriety, is between you and your HP. You could also see a doctor, there are some non-benzo options out there... though some of them have dependency issues... some don't.
Now get to sleep ....
Mark
I have used valerian root. It doesn't put me right to sleep. It has a mild calming effect and I think it does help a little get to me to sleep. I like it, no side effects. I don't use it regularly.
I have used melatonin. It actually works a little better, but I don't like it. For me, it makes me cranky the next day, my experience is not typical and I haven't heard many complain about that. Rozerem is a prescription sleep medicine and it is somewhat based on melatonin... it works a little bit, but like the melatonin.... makes ME cranky.
Both of these work better if used regularly, so for a one night "stand", may not work as well.
I like plain old benadryl. Some may object... mind altering and all that... For me, it does not affect my sobriety, doesn't cause any cravings, and I feel better if I sleep. I think it's fine, although some don't... my brother is 24 years sober, he uses it too, occasionally and he doesn't worry about it either.
What you need to do is your business, whether it affects your sobriety, is between you and your HP. You could also see a doctor, there are some non-benzo options out there... though some of them have dependency issues... some don't.
Now get to sleep ....
Mark
I've used Valerian for help in relaxing and it helped me. It's an herb but not 'mind altering' at all, and not addictive.
Why would AA 'think' anything of your taking valerian? It's not a med, it's a supplement, and it's not for anything but mild relaxation.
Why would AA 'think' anything of your taking valerian? It's not a med, it's a supplement, and it's not for anything but mild relaxation.
I'll have to try valerian root. I'm currently taking melatonin to sleep, but it makes me groggy the next day.
I used it off and on for years.. not sure if it worked or if I just thought it worked. Very (almost frighteningly) vivid dreams/nightmares was the side effect I had to get away from, and ended up stopping and switching back to sleeping pills like unisom etc..
After I quit drinking I tried Sleep MD, which is also all natural, and a combo of herbs.. some valerian, melatonin and others and seriously it worked like a charm for me. Never ever drugged me or made me feel any type of high, just let me sleep quickly and soundly. Again, with herbs as they aren't tested or approved by the FDA, you just have to take it with a grain of salt...but might be worth a try!
Congrats on the sober time!!
After I quit drinking I tried Sleep MD, which is also all natural, and a combo of herbs.. some valerian, melatonin and others and seriously it worked like a charm for me. Never ever drugged me or made me feel any type of high, just let me sleep quickly and soundly. Again, with herbs as they aren't tested or approved by the FDA, you just have to take it with a grain of salt...but might be worth a try!
Congrats on the sober time!!
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BTW, the opinion of this fairly hard core AAer is that valerian doesn't qualify as mind-altering.
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hey there,
i have suffered from terrible insomnia for a few years now, and its recently gotten even worse since getting sober. i've tried both valerian root products as well as melatonin and other OTC sleep aids (such as benedryl and other products containing diphenhydramine). In my experience, valerian root did nothing, and melatonin was extremely weak in actually making me tired, it would just increase my tiredness if i was already sleepy and help make me feel more refreshed in the morning, even if i hadnt slept much.
Now, benedryl and all the other OTC sleep aids they sell containing diphenhydramine WILL put you to sleep. However, they are probably considered mind-altering and they make you feel pretty miserable for the entire next day. When I go a really long time without sleeping well and i'm at my wit's end, and always on a weekend night when i know i have nothing urgent to do the next day, i'll take a low dose of benedryl and sleep for a full 12-14 hours and deal with the 'hit by a bus' feeling the next day.
I'm not really a huge fan of sleeping, though. All my friends think i'm crazy for it, but i'd just rather be doing something more fun or productive. So, instead of forcing myself to sleep, i catch up on reading and movies into the wee hours of the night, and max out on my coffee in the morning!
Rach
i have suffered from terrible insomnia for a few years now, and its recently gotten even worse since getting sober. i've tried both valerian root products as well as melatonin and other OTC sleep aids (such as benedryl and other products containing diphenhydramine). In my experience, valerian root did nothing, and melatonin was extremely weak in actually making me tired, it would just increase my tiredness if i was already sleepy and help make me feel more refreshed in the morning, even if i hadnt slept much.
Now, benedryl and all the other OTC sleep aids they sell containing diphenhydramine WILL put you to sleep. However, they are probably considered mind-altering and they make you feel pretty miserable for the entire next day. When I go a really long time without sleeping well and i'm at my wit's end, and always on a weekend night when i know i have nothing urgent to do the next day, i'll take a low dose of benedryl and sleep for a full 12-14 hours and deal with the 'hit by a bus' feeling the next day.
I'm not really a huge fan of sleeping, though. All my friends think i'm crazy for it, but i'd just rather be doing something more fun or productive. So, instead of forcing myself to sleep, i catch up on reading and movies into the wee hours of the night, and max out on my coffee in the morning!
Rach
I have had sleeping problems for years & tried just about everything. That being said exercise earlier in the day, reading something positive or boring before bed or meditation cd's (nature sounds are also good... waves etc.) Yoga at home an hour or two before sleep is also nice, you can buy some good cd's at most large stores.
In regards to medication well.... I need my sleep right now & met with my doctor to discuss. I am currently using zopiclone if I am unable to sleep, its quite strong but it works. Talk with your doctor & see what they have to say.
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Good luck
In regards to medication well.... I need my sleep right now & met with my doctor to discuss. I am currently using zopiclone if I am unable to sleep, its quite strong but it works. Talk with your doctor & see what they have to say.
Imovane - Uses, Side Effects, Interactions - Drugs - Medbroadcast
Some interesting articles on insomnia Insomnia (Difficulty Sleeping) Cause, Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment on MedicineNet.com
Good luck
I'm a melatonin fan, but I may pop 2 or 3. But then I'm a pretty big guy. My doc likes me to use it as it's safe and non-addictive. I've no experience with valeranian root, and am cautious about benedryl as it can be habit forming.
Hi
I have used valerian root. It doesn't put me right to sleep. It has a mild calming effect and I think it does help a little get to me to sleep. I like it, no side effects. I don't use it regularly.
I have used melatonin. It actually works a little better, but I don't like it. For me, it makes me cranky the next day, my experience is not typical and I haven't heard many complain about that. Rozerem is a prescription sleep medicine and it is somewhat based on melatonin... it works a little bit, but like the melatonin.... makes ME cranky.
Both of these work better if used regularly, so for a one night "stand", may not work as well.
I like plain old benadryl. Some may object... mind altering and all that... For me, it does not affect my sobriety, doesn't cause any cravings, and I feel better if I sleep. I think it's fine, although some don't... my brother is 24 years sober, he uses it too, occasionally and he doesn't worry about it either.
What you need to do is your business, whether it affects your sobriety, is between you and your HP. You could also see a doctor, there are some non-benzo options out there... though some of them have dependency issues... some don't.
Now get to sleep ....
Mark
I have used valerian root. It doesn't put me right to sleep. It has a mild calming effect and I think it does help a little get to me to sleep. I like it, no side effects. I don't use it regularly.
I have used melatonin. It actually works a little better, but I don't like it. For me, it makes me cranky the next day, my experience is not typical and I haven't heard many complain about that. Rozerem is a prescription sleep medicine and it is somewhat based on melatonin... it works a little bit, but like the melatonin.... makes ME cranky.
Both of these work better if used regularly, so for a one night "stand", may not work as well.
I like plain old benadryl. Some may object... mind altering and all that... For me, it does not affect my sobriety, doesn't cause any cravings, and I feel better if I sleep. I think it's fine, although some don't... my brother is 24 years sober, he uses it too, occasionally and he doesn't worry about it either.
What you need to do is your business, whether it affects your sobriety, is between you and your HP. You could also see a doctor, there are some non-benzo options out there... though some of them have dependency issues... some don't.
Now get to sleep ....
Mark
I realise this is an old thread but lets remember we shouldn't be giving out treatment advice or promoting the use of a particular product here.
Benedryl is an allergy medicine, not a sleep aid.
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Benedryl is an allergy medicine, not a sleep aid.
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