Willow00

I’m glad you’re feeling better Wisc

Karen I don’t feel I have much mental hardness yet either, but hopefully it will develop

It’s Saturday night here and I’m just finishing up day 20
Off to bed for me. Goodnight everyone

Dee74

congrats on nearly 3 weeks Willow

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wiscsober

During WWII soldiers who had been in AA, and off to war were more apt to stay sober. Much more than AA members who didn't go to war. Not sure of what happened afterwards, with PTSD, injuries, and all.

I tend to have more confidence leaving the drink behind in these times of troubles.

wiscsober

I am feeling well....keeping HALT forefront too...

tootsl1

Great idea Wisc.

Good going Willow.

Hows things with you FK are you in lockdown?

Willow00

Thanks Dee and Toots
Happy Sunday everyone

fishkiller

Hey toots thanks for asking. I am doing well just very busy lately.
We are not on lockdown yet. Noone in this area has been diagnosed.
Restaurants and stores are closing early and we aren't supposed to have gatherings of more than 10 people but other than that we are functioning.
On e of the many perks of living in a rural area.

Hello willow! Glad you are feeling better wisc.

To all the other fellow unders, be well

Willow00

Hi Fish

wiscsober

Hi Everyone! FGC
Starting the morning off with an early breakfast
Doing well....need some coffee.
A good dose of acceptance for my son's differing views would help.

fishkiller

FGC on a Sunday!
My daughter also has some different views of the world. IMO they are young and we probably felt similar at that age. Maybe, maybe not but all we can do is accept they are independent in their thinking and lead by example.
I don't think it matters how old they are we will always be an example to our children.

My daughter, for one, is stubborn and bullheaded, like her mother , and arguing just makes her dig in more.

Stronger2017

tootsl1

Each generation feels their opinions are the only ones that matter, perhaps Wisc, your son feels you are 'old and out of touch? Or is this more personal than world matters? We cannot control how another person thinks, feels and acts. We can control how we respond to them.

wiscsober

It's a religious and political matter for him.

Any criticisms of religious and political views of the current COVID emergency he takes personally as attacks on him, on Christianity, and the present president.

Honestly, I really only care about him taking care of himself, the wife, and his kids. And don't care much about his politics.

I do get insulted when people pray for my soul, and for me to be saved. Jeez I was born, reborn, saved, and reborn again before they were even a twinkle in their mother's eye.

Being absent pretty much their entire formative years I wasn't there to guide them in their political nor religious views.

Willow00

Lol Wisc
I think young people often think they know everything, and us “oldies” are as Toots said, “old and out of touch”. How little they really do know. Until they become the “old and out of touch” ones, and then they might get where we were coming from

wiscsober

it is something to chuckle about

tootsl1

Some folk are becoming very polarised in their thinking, - not specifically virus related but certainly in recent years, and can be less willing to hear, let alone accept, there may be another viewpoint. I don't do politics, but I have seen the increase in divisions in your country Wisc, in the same timeline as the last presidential election. One would hope a time of such adversity would go a ways to healing that rift. We are all in the same boat regardless of religion, race, ethnicity or political persuasion.
My mum is finding some comfort in her faith, and my brother and his family are strong believers, but none of them look down on or feel sorry for little old agnostic me!

fishkiller

One day closer fellow unders!

Sober369

Good morning! What does FGC mean? Forgone Conclusion? Feeling Grateful and Centered? Or connected?
Also, Fish, one day closer to what?
Very curious. I clearly need more coffee.
I'm grateful to be sober today.

fishkiller

FGC= Feel Good Club founded by ranking under member wiscsober! Please join us, membership is free and benefits start immediately!

One day closer to being in the over club.

wiscsober

Hey Sober

Reading posts by members who post here...it's feel good experience.

A tight bunch full of positivists.

My neighbors and I were joking the political parties eat their young if they stray too far. All of a sudden they're just gone!

I do keep in mind my son is a dry alky and decided AA wasn't Christian enough for him and he and his family can be helped more by church., I'm not sure with being alcoholic, but that is the way he wants to go.

I enjoyed the several meetings we've gone together, but last year I noticed the change in him. And he admitted his unwillingness himself.

Over the decades I've had many things happen with fellow AA and NA members, within groups, some I kept a way for awhile. But who was the one getting drunk over the decades with little periods of sobriety. The 12 steps aren't, never were perfect, but I think it truly are the best plan for recovery out there.

I've acted like my son also, I must remember.

Enough FGC