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Old 10-09-2017, 07:20 AM
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Hi folks! I had a hard charging day of planning and getting things done ahead of me. I woke up at 6am, which is simply ridiculous. However, I’m feeling really relaxed and I think I’m going to bask in feeling relaxed. Plus it’s Columbus Day (?) and a lot of things are closed. I needed paperwork. And it’s raining.

It’s amaxing that the sun just disappears halfway through October with clouds, rain and mist and the loss of daylight hours. Then it isn’t until May that we start getting regular sun. January, Feb, March are dark, freezing and dismal. I don’t want to see it this year. No amount of meds or anything else makes up for the cold and dark. I get very depressed.

Ok later on

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Old 10-09-2017, 08:14 AM
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Hey everyone, day 38 check in. I read through everyone's posts but only have time for a quick update. I'm sorry to all those struggling with temptation- we all know it's not worth it to test trying 1, 2 or 3.. it always leads down the same road. I'm happy to see those continuing to get more days

We got into Las Vegas yesterday afternoon. After traveling since 4:30am, we were exhausted and emotions were running high. My daughters were cranky, I was irritable, and my husband and I got into a stupid little argument. We swam at Mandalay Bay in the evening and looking up at the hotel brought on a lot of feelings. There was a TON of extra security through the airport and there is in every casino, especially here. It's good to know they're keeping us safe, but it also was a bit unnerving. People seem to be getting on with life, but it feels a little "jumpy" here. For example, someone screamed (in excitement) after winning at a machine in the casino and I saw a few people (including myself) jump and turn around quickly. Anyway, overall it's good down here. I did have a moment of entertaining the idea of having a drink, but it passed and I was grateful to wake up sober this morning. I have fuzzy memories of being here in the past during heavy drinking times, and it's awesome to be clear headed and spending quality time with my girls. And I'll remember everything!

I hope everyone has a good day. Will check in later
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:23 AM
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Day 35.
Not feeling productive whatsoever and don't even want to open my email.
It's like I'm waiting to be motivated but it's not happening. At least I'm not drinking but it's of little consolation and doesn't feel like such accomplishment in the grand scheme of things.
Here's to hoping I will apply myself to the tasks on hand if I want bigger changes to happen.
My friend invited me to a thanksgiving dinner tonight but she is just too compassionate at times and giving to the point where she also invited some dirty homeless people who, to me, look like they have clear mental issues. Spotted one with her luggage last night knocking on her door (with luggage and carriages and garbage bags filled with things retrieved from dumpster diving) when I brought back her dog. I'm not going cuz of that, don't wanna mingle with them as judgemental as it is. I told her as much. Truly, she annoys me with her general naivity, ignorance and stupidity (awful to say). On the other hand, it doesn't take much to annoy me these days anyway. It's all too pathetic.
Good week to all.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:41 AM
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I'll add to the above that once she let in 2 other ppl and was robbed of her cards. They spent $200 on cigaretts at the 7 eleven. Card company never reimbursed her. And she keeps on inviting strange homeless ppl. Another once passed out on her couch and she told him if he needed a place to stay he could come to hers.
I'm out.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:54 PM
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hi everyone.

Sorry to hear of so many of us struggling with various issues. I read on another thread recently that after the first week or 2 of feeling ok weeks 4-6 can be difficult as reality hits. things do tend to level out at 90 days though so here's hoping.

That said, I;ve had a positive couple of days .I've decided to wean off my mild anti depressant too now sober as feel is it numbing me too much. Although I only take 10mg I want to feel normal again, I just want to FEEL.
I started to cut down last week an had some headaches and nausea but mentally feeling good. Driving to work this morning everything seemed ever so slightly sharper and brighter. Hope it lasts .I'm weaning very slowly, 10mg down to 7.5mg for a month then onto 5mg then 2.5 then hopefully all clear.

Have a good day everyone,x
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Spot on RAL, I hit 5 weeks today and feel so flat. This morning I woke up feeling like I was hungover (I'm not) and I have the mental state that goes with it: can't be bothered. I've been lucky I suppose, most of my withdrawal and recovery symptoms have been purely physical; I've not really suffered the anxiety or depression that seems common on these threads.. but today I'm feeling a bit ... nothing. It'll pass.
Good luck with the weaning down of your medication RAL, I have no experience with what that's like but I guess if you can quit drinking, you can do this. As long as it's ok to do so of course.
hns - must be surreal to be in Las Vegas right now.
I had better get started with my day. Stay strong all.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:50 PM
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Stronger how are you?

I did nap out today, but ended up doing something I never thought would get done. I’m in the back section of my parents place. Transition time. There’s 2 separate rooms back here. A den with a TV and what was my dads office, which is big. I’m getting a 2 year old ‘hand me down’ Temperedic mattress in that room on Friday. I’ve been on a very good camping air matress. So we had to start clearing out in there and making more space. Throwing out all kinds of papers and getting some furniture out of there. Got enough done to be ready.

I bought a Claritin mattress protector and a set of good sheets. The sheets were 50% at Bed Bath Beyond. I’m not sure I’ve ever had sheets this nice before. Wamsutta high thread count. So my bedding is going up in comfort by 400%. I didn’t plan on being here this long. I never would have bought a matress but my dad doesn’t like the Tempur-Pedic so he bought another one. I’m going to just put it on the hardwood floor.

When my sister talked to me about doing more productive things, taking advantage of this free place to live, and my support system, she really got through to me the other day. This time she got through. It’s not going to be here forever. It felt different. Maybe her approach was pivotal. Just very kind and not judgmental.

I’m switching back and forth between The Hobbit and Cops and eating some stuff. Bed soon

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Old 10-09-2017, 06:02 PM
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Stronger how are you?

I did nap out today, but ended up doing something I never thought would get done. I’m in the back section of my parents place. Transition time. There’s 2 separate rooms back here. A den with a TV and what was my dads office, which is big. I’m getting a 2 year old ‘hand me down’ Temperedic mattress in that room on Friday. I’ve been on a very good camping air matress. So we had to start clearing out in there and making more space. Throwing out all kinds of papers and getting some furniture out of there. Got enough done to be ready.

I bought a Claritin mattress protector and a set of good sheets. The sheets were 50% at Bed Bath Beyond. I’m not sure I’ve ever had sheets this nice before. Wamsutta high thread count. So my bedding is going up in comfort by 400%. I didn’t plan on being here this long. I never would have bought a matress but my dad doesn’t like the Tempur-Pedic so he bought another one. I’m going to just put it on the hardwood floor.

When my sister talked to me about doing more productive things, taking advantage of this free place to live, and my support system, she really got through to me the other day. This time she got through. It’s not going to be here forever. It felt different. Maybe her approach was pivotal. Just very kind and not judgmental.

I’m switching back and forth between The Hobbit and Cops and eating some stuff. Bed soon

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That's great to hear Vipe😀 Use the support that's offered. It sounds like they really want to help.
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I'm on 36 days. I got a lot of the work I needed to do done last night. Just a couple of loose ends to tie up and I'll be finished. Feeling good😊
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:15 PM
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They do want to help. You can bring a horse to water...

I’m lying in my room right now and it is soooo much better. The office desk stacked with papers still needs to be cleaned up, but this is a huge difference. I tend not to notice that things could be really cleaned up. I got some dust and dirt off the wood floors that’s for sure. Yikes. And I eliminated 3 pieces of furniture which makes the room twice the size.

Ready for sleep, end day 3. Thinking I should be in October now. Dunno.

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Old 10-09-2017, 08:19 PM
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Night all. Read the posts and now am too sleepy to respond. Sorry for those struggling! Hang in there, I agree with whoever said we have to sometimes just wait out the tough emotional and mental feelings.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:54 PM
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Hey everyone, day 38 check in. I read through everyone's posts but only have time for a quick update. I'm sorry to all those struggling with temptation- we all know it's not worth it to test trying 1, 2 or 3.. it always leads down the same road. I'm happy to see those continuing to get more days

We got into Las Vegas yesterday afternoon. After traveling since 4:30am, we were exhausted and emotions were running high. My daughters were cranky, I was irritable, and my husband and I got into a stupid little argument. We swam at Mandalay Bay in the evening and looking up at the hotel brought on a lot of feelings. There was a TON of extra security through the airport and there is in every casino, especially here. It's good to know they're keeping us safe, but it also was a bit unnerving. People seem to be getting on with life, but it feels a little "jumpy" here. For example, someone screamed (in excitement) after winning at a machine in the casino and I saw a few people (including myself) jump and turn around quickly. Anyway, overall it's good down here. I did have a moment of entertaining the idea of having a drink, but it passed and I was grateful to wake up sober this morning. I have fuzzy memories of being here in the past during heavy drinking times, and it's awesome to be clear headed and spending quality time with my girls. And I'll remember everything!

I hope everyone has a good day. Will check in later
Holy cow, that's incredible. Are the windows boarded up or are they still broken out? I imagine the whole 32 floor is off limits. What did the area where the concert was held look like? Is it closed off? I imagine there's memorials and things there now unless its still an active crime scene.
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Morning all,

That's great to see you using support Viper and taking positive steps.

Kachal, I felt awful last week and the week before (weeks 4 & 5) but this week I feel much much better. hopefully you will too. Thanks, although I'm only on 10mg it's citalopram which is renowned for having very bad withdrawal side effects.I tried to stop last year but just went cold turkey and felt awful . I thought I needed the drug but it was probably side effects of withdrawal. very slow taper this time.

Hope you enjoy your trip HNS. It must be scary but also very safe with all the protection around.

I'm going to Egypt this weekend. People say I'm crazy but I went earlier this year with much hesitation and it was the best holiday we've ever had. The checks and safety were more than I've ever seen anywhere. We pretty much stay in the hotel too although are venturing to Cairo to see the pyramids this time-can't wait!

HOpe you're ok sober369

Many congrats on 36 days Stronger

Have a good day everyone,x
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Enjoy Egypt RAL

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Old 10-10-2017, 01:19 AM
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Hi guys, quick check in on day 23. Disconnected from the web a bit on my vacation and dove straight back into work after my return.
Still going strong. Have actually picked up running again, much to my dog's delight. Will try to make this my default action if cravings / stress hit me too hard.
I'll try to catch up properly soon. Hope you're all doing well!
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:11 AM
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Viper- I’m so glad that you got your room cleaned up and put together. Seriously, good bedding makes all the difference to me! It sounds like you are on the right track and feeling better . Also, my opinion is that if you’d like to join the Oct. group thats fine, but we’d love to keep you with us.

Caprice- I hope you have a more productive day today!

RAL- Good luck with the weaning! I’ve done that a couple of times but have always seemed to end up going back on mine. I’m sure you will listen to your mind and body and what it needs

Kachal- I can totally relate to waking up feeling hungover.. I wonder why that happens. Today I feel great, but in the last week I’ve had a few of those. Maybe it’s part of that “post acute withdrawal syndrome”?

Stronger- Great job on 36 days! They are really adding up fast.

Sober- Yes! I’ve really been trying to just “ride out the wave” when I feel a strong emotion, a craving, exc. I’ve been reading this book called The Gifts of Our Compulsions and it’s been really helpful about learning about these waves.

Outonthetiles- It’s surreal. From the front of the hotel you can see which window he was shooting out of on the 32nd floor. I looked up and immediately got sick to my stomach so I’m trying to not look up there. The area of the concert venue (and most of the south end of the strip) is full of little memorial sites.. candles, posters, flowers… Yesterday the girls and I stopped at one and wrote little messages for the families. Yesterday the stage was still set with sound equipment, lighting.. it’s all police taped off so I’m assuming it’s part of the crime scene. Very eery because everything is just frozen in time there. All of the billboards down the strip read #vegasstrong, and many of the restaurants are offering free meals to first responders. I’ve never seen so much security in the hotels/casinos before. At times the energy has been really heavy, but overall I get the sense that people here are resilient and things in Vegas are carrying on.

Leeloo- Happy to see you back on
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Day 39 check in. Yesterday was such a wonderful day here in Las Vegas. I was able to let go of all of the negative feelings I was having and just have a blast with my daughters. We walked most of the strip so we got great exercise, got to show them all of the cool stuff, and they didn't complain once about the long walk. The weather was amazing- around 80* and sunny which is a good reprieve from the chilly weather in Seattle. Today we're planning on going to Siegfried and Roy's Secret Garden and a couple of other touristy things so that should be fun too. It's really awesome to be here making NEW memories and being able to remember everything that happens. I have some pretty awful memories of being blacked out drunk in Vegas years ago, so it's nice to have this chance to re-do things.

Last night I had a drinking dream (I walked into a grocery store, opened ONE can of beer, chugged it and then realized what I had just done and felt disgusted with myself). I have never been so happy to wake up this morning and realize that it was just a dream... I think I had the dream because there's drinking everywhere here. In fact the one that keeps getting me is at the 24hr casino stores, it's buy 2 beers get a free shot. I don't know why THAT is the one thing that's bothering me. Anyway, I WILL stay sober again today <3

I hope everyone has a great, sober day.
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The last round of posts looks very positive. HNS, LeeLoo, RAL, Sober, Viper. All moving forward.

Day 31. I am still riddled with anxiety with regards to my family. I believe I noted that my wife through me out of the bedroom this last relapse and said I would be out of the house if it were not for the daughter. They don't trust me and rightfully so. I am trying to be kind and nice. I keep them posted on my actions to stay sober and present. We have had four good weekends and do lots of things together. The wife kisses me now and tells me she loves me when I tell her. She smiles a lot.

However, when I leave and go out of town for work it gets very cold. She doesn't want to speak or text much. Yesterday she was upset that i did not know she stopped taking Advil for her back. Says it makes her wonder what else I don't know about her??? Even when I was drinking I always asked her about work, her back and how her gym classes went. I was attentive. She still takes Advil a lot. How was I supposed to know its not for the back pain??

I feel she is trying to detach and thinks bad thoughts when I am gone. I know I need to give her the space she needs and let her heal but this is killing me. I have no urge to drink but I don't want to leave the house now. I have to stay cool and just hope that the continued sobriety and kindness / being understanding of her anger will allow her to trust again. Ugh.. I am in pain.
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:37 PM
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I'm just checking in on day 32. I had a little food poisoning the past 24 hours, so just trying to recover. The "euphoria" of good thoughts regarding early sobriety are definitely gone but that's fine. I have an app on my phone to count sober days, and I'm just trying to live life and not obsess about sober days, alcohol, or triggers.

I am seriously thinking this sobriety thing my stick this time
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Morning all - another 'hangover' morning. Don't worry - I haven't picked up a drink, but for the second morning in a row I feel like I may as well have. Groggy, stiff body, not rested, dry sore eyes and dehydrated despite drinking lots of fluid. And my mood, soooo flat. I feel closer to drinking today than I have since the first week. Like, if I'm going to get the hangovers anyway, then I may as well have the high. I won't, please don't worry about me, I'm not close to doing that. Just feel cranky and over it.
I'm pulling away from my partner as I just want to be left alone, and it makes him clingy and I really hate that. It's not his fault but I can't bear the suffocation.
Ugh I really need to snap out of this funk. I'll check in later when the morning work rush dies down.
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