Forward12

Booze and drugging sure won't help it. Keep moving forward.

sleepie

I am aware of that. I never stated that I was going to do either.

zjw

i can relate to the tired worn out stuff. i look at people like my father and his crap job all those years and others older then me and woner how in the hell did htey do it. I'm worn out and i'm not that old how the heck am i gonna make it? its scary sometimes really is.

yeah from what you've said about your weight its pretty crappy your contending with this at all. and from what you've said about your dietary choices its supriseding. and the fact that you at one time rode your bike all over the place too like yeah WTF is this happening to you? ::scratches head::

I want to say something like maybe you'll get lucky and the doc can find some good answers to these questions. But I know how that can be too *sigh*.

BrendaChenowyth

Dig. I feel this.

Dee74

Just sharing my experience Sleepie.
If it's no good to you, it may help someone else, yeah?

D

sleepie

Just nevermind.

I can't anymore.

Life has been too unrewarding for me.

I'm exhausted and my heart is broken forever.

zjw

you ever meet those types of folks that keep moving forward despite the onslaught of obstacles that seem to be telling them to change direction or do something different and your see this play out and you think geeze is this guy friggen dillusional? like i new a guy owned a business millions after millions he poured in for years into this failing business. I sat there just baffled this guy must be straight up bat **** crazy or dillusional.

fast forward to now. I sometimes feel like that guy. i'll have an onslaught of life **** being flung at me and i just keep going forward cause i'm liek wtf else am i gonna do *sigh*. dont get me wrong i scream and **** and moan about it too tho at times. So i'm not knocking your need to flip about this.

Dee74

I'm sorry things are so hard.
I'm no stranger to bad results and chronic health problems either.

Me offering an optimistic viewpoint doesn't mean I'm not empathetic, Sleepie.

I really am trying to help - and I think all of us want a better life for you.

Noones trying to take you down.

D

SoberLeigh

I'm so very sorry that your results were disappointing, sleepie.

Unfortunately, even the 'right' path has bumps along the way.

Hugs, sweetheart.

zjw

I know what you mean.

I'm going to jokingly say this so i hope i dont get my head snapped off. But i might say to a friend IRL with something like what your up against after the vent fest "have you tried hitting something I hear that can work"

Just trying to make you laugh. Its like when my firends and i talk computuers and we complain this or that isnt working we might respond "KICK IT!!" we know we cant but ya know it breaks the anger and furstration and makes us smile when we are straight up ticked off.

aussieblue

Sleepie there are other things that can happen with the liver , my blood work came back very high , I had 2 liver biopsies and it turned out I had an iron overload , it did come down after 9 months of being sober though , I would ask your doc to get you an appointment with a specialist to get to the bottom of it.

zjw

yeah speaking of iron for what its worth I took some supplments once cause i had all the hallmark symptoms of low iron. they helped too i felt better symptoms went away I continued to take the supplements then i got super tired and sluggish was like wtf now. then i read too high iron can cause chronic fatigue so i quit the supplment and wala felt fine again ::scratches head::

IN my case my iron levels float all over i sometimes contimplate some sort of at hope test cause i cant just hit the doc all the time to see how its going.

point is maybe its osmething that can be easily solved.

BrendaChenowyth

I looked it up in one of my nursing books.. it says with liver cell damage, ALT will be fifty times the normal value. They said slightly elevated. Would you call fifty times normal value slight, I have no idea... It also says it can be elevated with conditions involving other organs, and with use of certain medications.. I dunno.. I don't understand delivering this information over the phone and leaving you to interpret it, if that's what they did.. Why not do it in office? Because ALT needs to be correlated with other liver enzyme values and over a period of time to diagnose a cause.

sleepie

Mine is higher now at TEN months of grueling sobriety. I also have borderline anemia. And fibroids. And prediabetes. It's done. I can't handle anyof this. One thing maybe or even the prediabetes thing but no way in hell can I handle all of this. I do not have what it takes for that and I already have 2 kinds of depression plus anxiety. This does NOT help.

sleepie

They gave me all the values. Only ALT was high. I have to go back in 2 weeks. More money I don't have... more nerve wracking tests.

sleepie

Dee can you combine this with my other thread?

sleepie

I need to know "WHY" this would happen. It can only be cirrhosis. I asked them over the phone and they just started droning on about the liver repairs itself when you quit drinking YEAH I am aware and that evidently ain't the case here if my levels are worse after quitting.

sleepie

Did I get this from taking Benadryl? Was it from being ill and having to taker Delsym? I made sure to get a med without acetominophen in it. I don't even take an ibuprofen despite having excruciating periods. I don't smoke.

WHY. I need an answer.

WHY is everything worse after quitting. WHY.

Mountainmanbob

There are things that you can do at this point so as to better your condition or possibly at least hold what you have.

Think of the ones that today were given the worst news. Be grateful now, be happy.

M-Bob

sleepie

Like what???

I went through hell quitting drinking. I quit anxiety meds. I don't smoke. I lost even more weight and am not overweight. What in God's name is left to do?