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Old 08-22-2008, 08:56 AM
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Anger management deals with controlling personalities.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:01 AM
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Hopeto180 - I seriously don't think I will ever get him to consider anger management. It would have to be court ordered.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:40 AM
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Toomutch... maybe this has been said to you on other threads, but I just read through the thread and something jumped out at me like "HEY HEY DON'T IGNORE THIS!!!" So I'm gonna note it

You said he was controlling even before you got married... and it has escalated. It used to "just" be verbal... and it escalated to his dumping sh!t all over you. I would bet a whole big pile of money that IT WILL ESCALATE TO MORE SERIOUS PHYSICAL ABUSE. Do you see how this process is softening you to prepare for worse abuse? What if he had dumped sh!t on you when you first started dating? You would have been outta there! So he was controlling for a while, then more emotionally abusive, and now he has taken the step into being physical... and you're still there.

That tells him you will accept physical abuse.

I am being blunt because I am scared for you and for your kids. I used to be a domestic violence victim's advocate and will never forget taking pictures of beaten, bruised, cut women in preparation for their court dates.
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Smile It's just ammo, you don't have to use it.

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Hopeto180 - I seriously don't think I will ever get him to consider anger management. It would have to be court ordered.
Toomutch,
It's likely you won't have to use it. It's nice to know in case things get out of hand. A suggestion to the courts for anger management would carry much weight coming from you. I hope all stays well. Prayers

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:21 PM
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I'm so sorry you're going through this. I'm not even going to pretend to know what it's like to be in your shoes. Whatever you decide to do, I hope you find your happy place. Don't let anyone rob you of that.
I second that, totally.

I can not judge you. I can not lose respect for you. Only you know what it's like to be you. We can only be here to listen to you, offer support, and tell you what we think. :P You don't deserve to have poop thrown on you, that's for sure... but I will not lose respect for you because you came here to vent and ask for support. I only think more of you for that. You trust us, and we appreciate that.

DO find your happy place. DO value yourself. DO NOT let anyone take either of those away from you.

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:23 PM
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WishIwasnormal - I guess I just saw the good outweighing the bad.
We tend to see what we want - or need - to see at any given time.
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:31 PM
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This thread has really got me in a strange state of mind "nothing seems real". This home is so much happier than the one I grew up in. Even though my parents were extremely wealthy,and all my friends envied me; I was a sad little girl.

In this home we laugh, do things together, Ithought we were happy. I know the things my husband does sometimes are abusive. But is any family perfect?

I am getting more confused by the minute, so I will quit rambling...
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No, no family is perfect. But there is ACCEPTABLE and there is ABUSE.

Two totally different things. You need to learn the difference.
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I'm 44, who is going to teach me to live differently than I ever have?
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You are obviously a strong, smart lady... never doubt it.
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:17 PM
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TooMutch,

I have a lot of respect for you. You asked who was going to teach you at age 44. I think this is something you'll learn for yourself. You already are learning what is and isn't unacceptable to you.

I grew up in a rough household too. I was lucky enough to have spent lots of time with my grandparents and aunt who did have happy homes. I am sure that saved me a load of grief, just having that for a reference.

You have lots of support here.

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Old 08-22-2008, 08:58 PM
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TooMutch- I just have to add my two cents. The important thing is that you feel safety for you and your children. When you start doubting that, it is time to rethink your situation. I was married for 35 years and never felt unsafe around anyone that lived in my household. If I did I think I would have rethought my situation and took into consideration myself and my children.
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:16 AM
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winwin- I really dont think that we are not safe. My husband has never hit the children. I told him from the beginning that spanking my kids was not going to happen. My ex husband doesn't believe in physical punishment either.

It is more of the controlling, yelling and acting crazy over little situations, out of the blue, that is troubling. When I feel that tension in the air begin to build, thats when I cringe.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:08 AM
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Toomuch- I hope everything is ok. I read all of the posts and you mentioned early on that you hope your husband doesn't hit you like he used to.

I hope everything has calmed down.

As far as the shoes in the hallway, you might want to be careful about picking your battles. The last thing you want is to have your husband feel like a child and you are his mother. I am only telling you this because I used to do the same thing to my husband and he hated it and I had to learn the hard way.

Good luck.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:14 AM
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Jen, Thats a good point about the shoes in the hallway. I don't typically do things like that, I would like to say I'm easy going.

I think I did that with the shoes because I was angry with his actions the day before. So I figured if the hedge hog cage is to be kept clean, the shoes should be picked up as well. At least I didn't put the dirty ole things on his pillow. Still mad I guess...
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:20 AM
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Yeah- marriage is hard for anyone, especially us people in early recovery. I will keep you in my prayers! Let me know if you need anything!

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Old 08-23-2008, 11:28 AM
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He and I are going up to the mountains today in the convertable... Its a beautiful day, hopefully if will be enjoyable.
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