24 Hour Recovery Connections Part 405
Thank you Suze. I wish it was different.
I’m sitting in a bar where I used to spend too much money. They have a killer quesadilla that I was craving after my bummer of a morning. Had to take kitty to the vet and spend the last of my paycheck (I got paid yesterday), and had a phone call to the collection agency because they want larger payments. So here I am having a coke and trying to cheer up. I’m not in danger of drinking, surprisingly. I’m just trying to keep moving forward.
I’m sitting in a bar where I used to spend too much money. They have a killer quesadilla that I was craving after my bummer of a morning. Had to take kitty to the vet and spend the last of my paycheck (I got paid yesterday), and had a phone call to the collection agency because they want larger payments. So here I am having a coke and trying to cheer up. I’m not in danger of drinking, surprisingly. I’m just trying to keep moving forward.
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Went to Universal Studios theme park yesterday. We met the Simpsons, flew alien spaceships, escaped a fire-breathing dragon at Hogwarts, cycled back to ET's planet and hung out with some minions .... normal Mondays are going to seem so blah when we get home. According to fitbit, I walked 33,000 steps yesterday. Certainly keeping fit on this holiday. We're chilling out in our villa today and going to Hollywood Studios later to watch a show. I'm loving our holiday villa....the kids love the pool..... my husband loves the sun loungers and me? I love the washing machine. I seriously love it. It's so massive I can fit three loads of washing in it. I've just done all our washing and hung it outside in the sunshine to dry. I couldn't feel happier. I love the washing machine so much, I just took a photo of it ... to go in our holiday scrap book. Not sure if it's a sign of getting old or a sign that I am a really simple soul but yeah, I'm going to really miss the washing machine when we leave. And Walmart. And Disney. And pretty much everything.
Jo, puppies take a little while to settle but it doesn't go on for long. My dog only cried the first night but he was a demon chewer. ... he chewed everything when he was really young. But it didn't last. Stick with it .... the aggravation they give you as puppies is insignificant compared to the love and companionship and loyalty heading your way. Miss my dog so much...... if I could have this washing machine and my dog in the same house, I would be very happy indeed.
Sending lots of love to everyone. I'm thinking of everyone .. Plenny, Kev, Venus, Goat, Willow, Zepp and everyone ... love you all. 24 more for me please xxxx
Jo, puppies take a little while to settle but it doesn't go on for long. My dog only cried the first night but he was a demon chewer. ... he chewed everything when he was really young. But it didn't last. Stick with it .... the aggravation they give you as puppies is insignificant compared to the love and companionship and loyalty heading your way. Miss my dog so much...... if I could have this washing machine and my dog in the same house, I would be very happy indeed.
Sending lots of love to everyone. I'm thinking of everyone .. Plenny, Kev, Venus, Goat, Willow, Zepp and everyone ... love you all. 24 more for me please xxxx
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Hi Kev,
I'm glad you have moved on from your ex, no matter who ended the relationship, he showed you his true colors, and you deserve better.
I have tried to focus on what I can control in a situation. Don't worry about what others have said/did, try to focus on today, and you, and making positive choices for you moving forward.
I have found mindfulness techniques that really allow me to stay grounded in the present to be one of the greatest tools in my sobriety.
You've got this.
I'm glad you have moved on from your ex, no matter who ended the relationship, he showed you his true colors, and you deserve better.
I have tried to focus on what I can control in a situation. Don't worry about what others have said/did, try to focus on today, and you, and making positive choices for you moving forward.
I have found mindfulness techniques that really allow me to stay grounded in the present to be one of the greatest tools in my sobriety.
You've got this.
I still tend to worry that I am doing things the wrong way when others tell me that is the case. Not so much in the sense that I want them to like me or to please them but that I worry that they know better what the best thing to do is.
But even with that I think I am making slight progress these days and don't just think that anything someone else sees in me must be true, that's what caused the rant! And probably what ended the relationship, because I kept saying "no" when things seemed wrong to me.
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Sorry for yet another long post and thank you Suze for addressing that we didn’t really used to do this on this thread, I’ve often felt self-conscious and wondered if I’m putting out too much on the 24 hour or if it’s ok.... I have been helped immensely by this thread and I hope it IS ok because seeing all of your stories and having solidarity with you is truly magical.
I promise one of these days I will lighten up a little. I just keep having epiphanies
I promise one of these days I will lighten up a little. I just keep having epiphanies
I also felt like I over-shared my personal stuff on here lately but then I thought, no one is forced to read it or to reply and if people don't want to hear about it they can just skip it or ignore my posts.
I’m in a relationship with my drinking buddy. A really hilarious and special and talented person who is so twisted up in his brain that he can’t see his own potential. It is something I am familiar with as well. If he doesn’t treat his drinking and depression, I fear we will never be able to build a life together.
This is someone I know understands my life and history on a level that most people would never be able to. Trying to fall in love with people who were not as sufficiently damaged as me in the past has been fruitless and painful and they all left me behind like trash on the curb.
I wanted so badly to say “Come to a meeting with me” but I know I can’t engineer his recovery. I told him already to get a new job (which he knows he needs to do). He needs to feel worthy and like he is accomplishing things and using his skills. He is in a toxic relationship with his alcoholic boss. He is stuck in a place professionally that is hard to explain here.
I’m very sad that I have to think of not being together. By the way, I was not as clear as I should have been about why we are talking about moving in together. I can afford a nicer house that we could share all on my own. I can afford a nicer house for myself too. I want to try moving in to his little house because we have wanted to try to coexist for a long time. Please don’t forget that along with all of these problems is a lot of true love running underneath. This is not easy.
This is someone I know understands my life and history on a level that most people would never be able to. Trying to fall in love with people who were not as sufficiently damaged as me in the past has been fruitless and painful and they all left me behind like trash on the curb.
I wanted so badly to say “Come to a meeting with me” but I know I can’t engineer his recovery. I told him already to get a new job (which he knows he needs to do). He needs to feel worthy and like he is accomplishing things and using his skills. He is in a toxic relationship with his alcoholic boss. He is stuck in a place professionally that is hard to explain here.
I’m very sad that I have to think of not being together. By the way, I was not as clear as I should have been about why we are talking about moving in together. I can afford a nicer house that we could share all on my own. I can afford a nicer house for myself too. I want to try moving in to his little house because we have wanted to try to coexist for a long time. Please don’t forget that along with all of these problems is a lot of true love running underneath. This is not easy.
But also I had found that a lot of people never understood my pain or my past. That they couldn't relate to what I have been through or how I felt. And that this part of me scared them, it seemed to hurt, too damaged or what do I know.
He's still a very special person to me and he has pushed me on the right path towards sobriety which was one of the best things anyone has ever done for me, he really really forced me to close the whole chapter on self destruction I had going on since my teenage years and to "grow up" and become responsible.
Although he pushed me on that path, he, unfortunately, didn't want to join me. I always saw the same potential in him too. And in fact I think most humans have the same potential. But it's not only about the potential. Eating dry, hard corn isn't quite the same as eating pop corn although it has the potential to become pop corn. It needs a lot of work, strength, energy and commitment too. And not everyone is willing to give that.
I don't know DJTM. I don't know how serious he is about sobriety. And then even once he's sober it looks like there are a lot of other things he'd need to take care of. I also know that it can be very pressuring to be in a relationship with someone who expects you to face all your problems when you don't feel quite ready yet. I had that situation. And while it was reassuring and nice to have someone that close supporting me and believing me, it also added SO much pressure, so much stress. And it took part of the "getting to know yourself" thing away because I never had the space or time to focus on myself, to make my own decisions about recovery, to have my own pace and my own goals. Partly I was always doing it for him too. I'm not saying that this is how DJTM will feel or that you will handle things like my ex (who wasn't just abusive but also very loving and supportive if he felt like it, which he did a lot in the first year). But being so close to someone in early recovery doesn't necessarily have to be a good thing only. Giving someone space can be painful at first maybe but might be good in the long run. I don't know, just an idea.
But I see how difficult this is for you and how much thought you put in this. I'm sure you will know what to do when the time is ripe
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Went to Universal Studios theme park yesterday. We met the Simpsons, flew alien spaceships, escaped a fire-breathing dragon at Hogwarts, cycled back to ET's planet and hung out with some minions .... normal Mondays are going to seem so blah when we get home. According to fitbit, I walked 33,000 steps yesterday. Certainly keeping fit on this holiday. We're chilling out in our villa today and going to Hollywood Studios later to watch a show. I'm loving our holiday villa....the kids love the pool..... my husband loves the sun loungers and me? I love the washing machine. I seriously love it. It's so massive I can fit three loads of washing in it. I've just done all our washing and hung it outside in the sunshine to dry. I couldn't feel happier. I love the washing machine so much, I just took a photo of it ... to go in our holiday scrap book. Not sure if it's a sign of getting old or a sign that I am a really simple soul but yeah, I'm going to really miss the washing machine when we leave. And Walmart. And Disney. And pretty much everything.
Jo, puppies take a little while to settle but it doesn't go on for long. My dog only cried the first night but he was a demon chewer. ... he chewed everything when he was really young. But it didn't last. Stick with it .... the aggravation they give you as puppies is insignificant compared to the love and companionship and loyalty heading your way. Miss my dog so much...... if I could have this washing machine and my dog in the same house, I would be very happy indeed.
Sending lots of love to everyone. I'm thinking of everyone .. Plenny, Kev, Venus, Goat, Willow, Zepp and everyone ... love you all. 24 more for me please xxxx
Jo, puppies take a little while to settle but it doesn't go on for long. My dog only cried the first night but he was a demon chewer. ... he chewed everything when he was really young. But it didn't last. Stick with it .... the aggravation they give you as puppies is insignificant compared to the love and companionship and loyalty heading your way. Miss my dog so much...... if I could have this washing machine and my dog in the same house, I would be very happy indeed.
Sending lots of love to everyone. I'm thinking of everyone .. Plenny, Kev, Venus, Goat, Willow, Zepp and everyone ... love you all. 24 more for me please xxxx
(In those moments I tend to feel like a housewife in some TV commercial from the 50's going crazy about her new pressure cooker. But really, it's the small things that can make such a difference!)
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kev honey.....who is saying this to you?
Because you are right....there is nothing wrong with you.....you have done the work....you are completely awesome....I am not sure why these people are not telling you 'go girl...let the past be the past....you are wonderful....soar with our love'....because that's what we want for you. ♥♥
Because you are right....there is nothing wrong with you.....you have done the work....you are completely awesome....I am not sure why these people are not telling you 'go girl...let the past be the past....you are wonderful....soar with our love'....because that's what we want for you. ♥♥
I had my therapy session today and felt a bit misunderstood. She asked me 5 times if I don't feel used or betrayed by my ex and why I'm not angry and what I would like to tell him if he was in the room with us, or if I wanted to yell at him. And if I do feel some kind of relief that the relationship is over.
I said no to all these things. As I see things now, I don't think he used me (which is a conscious thing). He treated me in bad ways and I am not okay with that and feel hurt and angry about those times. But I don't feel used or betrayed. I just think we both said we wanted a relationship, him having his idea of what that means and me having mine, not knowing that our ideas differ so much from each other's.
I said I feel like someone who has been trying to use a calculator as a mobile phone for 2 years, putting in the right number but never been able to call anyone. Thinking that either there must be something really wrong about my "phone" or that I am too stupid to use it. Which drove me mad at times. Trying and trying to make something work that remained impossible.
And now I feel relieved that I finally realised that it's a calculator, not a mobile phone! So it was never meant to work the way I expected it. So it's this realisation that brings me relief but not the fact that the relationship has ended. To me that's two unrelated and very separate things. I told her I just feel sad and disappointed that things were not like I thought they were. Which didn't seem to make sense to her. She kept suggesting I am suppressing anger and other emotions. Which just made me angry after a while cause I felt, again, misunderstood.
I guess in the end people just want to help but I've worked so much on myself and I got so tired of people pointing out new problems I need to focus on all the time. I got literally tired of working on myself. It does cost a whole lot of energy and for what's happened to me in my 28 years I think I'm not doing so bad.
And for now I will allow myself to be as imperfect as I am and do my thing for a while.
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