Class of August 2018 Part 4
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One more post before I hand the torch westward
I'm updating the list by highlighting those who are still with us. In this taking attendance, I'm happy for each of you who is still here. This is one tough thing to overcome.
I can't remember if I mentioned that I'm done with day 26.
Good morning to each of you as you wake up to Thursday. May you overcome any hurdles and pass on any wisdom.
I'm updating the list by highlighting those who are still with us. In this taking attendance, I'm happy for each of you who is still here. This is one tough thing to overcome.
I can't remember if I mentioned that I'm done with day 26.
Good morning to each of you as you wake up to Thursday. May you overcome any hurdles and pass on any wisdom.
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Hi all
DAY 14 . Red you’re also on day 14 ?
After waxing lyrically yesterday and hogging the posts with my “feel-good” mood, (even double posting – sorry) , today …. I’m sitting on the pitty -potty .
Also woke up this morning feeling like I had a hangover ( had a good night’s sleep) . So much so ,that I was convinced that I drank last night – but I didn’t > Has anyone experienced this ?
I am able to wait for and fight the AV , but honestly battle with these mood shifts . I feel like a teenager suffering hormonal see-saws.
Thanks all for sharing their favourite NA drinks.
Bekind , I adored your story of your Mom falling in love with your Father all over again , I can just picture her with her “public displays of affection”. Really brought a smile to my face.
Good luck and good wishes to you all today . Will hold you close to my heart.
DAY 14 . Red you’re also on day 14 ?
After waxing lyrically yesterday and hogging the posts with my “feel-good” mood, (even double posting – sorry) , today …. I’m sitting on the pitty -potty .
Also woke up this morning feeling like I had a hangover ( had a good night’s sleep) . So much so ,that I was convinced that I drank last night – but I didn’t > Has anyone experienced this ?
I am able to wait for and fight the AV , but honestly battle with these mood shifts . I feel like a teenager suffering hormonal see-saws.
Thanks all for sharing their favourite NA drinks.
Bekind , I adored your story of your Mom falling in love with your Father all over again , I can just picture her with her “public displays of affection”. Really brought a smile to my face.
Good luck and good wishes to you all today . Will hold you close to my heart.
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Day 39
Good Morning Augustonians!
Ayres - I’m sorry you’re feeling a bit crappy. I guess we have to ride the waves a little in the early days? Console yourself with the fact that we all feel it and that you’re not alone?
Matrac or Bonnie - why did I always think of you as a man? Isn’t it weird? Maybe MNC/Mike and your names both beginning with an M... Bonnie.... right let’s store that in the memory bank.
Bob et al - never heard of tailgating in my life (well not in the non UK sense). In the UK it means driving too close to the person ahead of you! Google tells me that in the US it’s an informal serving of food from a car in the car park of a stadium (assumably a team that you support or that is playing there?) It sounds very sociable but don’t you get to see the actual game itself? In the UK that could never happen with rival fans at football (soccer). The booze would turn it into a running brawl.
The damn scales say I’ve put on a pound again but the tape measure exposes its lie. I recommend those exercising to lose weight buy a tape measure? It will save you anxiety and frustration.
For exercise it will be 30 sets of upper body today after an all day seminar for me. I’ll be frazzled, hot and tired but I will visit the gym to lift some iron regardless of the fact I’ll only be getting to there at peak time (about 17:30). The gym will be packed and it can get a bit tiresome manoeuvring yourself around the posers, talkers and socialisers, when all you want to do is just work out hard and then go home.
On a slightly more “feminine” note I have just looked to my left and seen that the glass container holding one of the candles I’ve lit has a small inscription on it. It says “Hello Lovely”. I found myself saying “Hello Lovely” back and then chuckling. Isn’t it weird what can amuse a 48 year old bloke?
Peace
JT
Good Morning Augustonians!
Ayres - I’m sorry you’re feeling a bit crappy. I guess we have to ride the waves a little in the early days? Console yourself with the fact that we all feel it and that you’re not alone?
Matrac or Bonnie - why did I always think of you as a man? Isn’t it weird? Maybe MNC/Mike and your names both beginning with an M... Bonnie.... right let’s store that in the memory bank.
Bob et al - never heard of tailgating in my life (well not in the non UK sense). In the UK it means driving too close to the person ahead of you! Google tells me that in the US it’s an informal serving of food from a car in the car park of a stadium (assumably a team that you support or that is playing there?) It sounds very sociable but don’t you get to see the actual game itself? In the UK that could never happen with rival fans at football (soccer). The booze would turn it into a running brawl.
The damn scales say I’ve put on a pound again but the tape measure exposes its lie. I recommend those exercising to lose weight buy a tape measure? It will save you anxiety and frustration.
For exercise it will be 30 sets of upper body today after an all day seminar for me. I’ll be frazzled, hot and tired but I will visit the gym to lift some iron regardless of the fact I’ll only be getting to there at peak time (about 17:30). The gym will be packed and it can get a bit tiresome manoeuvring yourself around the posers, talkers and socialisers, when all you want to do is just work out hard and then go home.
On a slightly more “feminine” note I have just looked to my left and seen that the glass container holding one of the candles I’ve lit has a small inscription on it. It says “Hello Lovely”. I found myself saying “Hello Lovely” back and then chuckling. Isn’t it weird what can amuse a 48 year old bloke?
Peace
JT
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Hi Augustonians! I am 19 days sober and have a bit of a head cold which has delayed my running plans.
Today at work I was met with my first real challenge and I am not sure what to do. Some background I finished my PhD and got offered an academic position right away...which was incredible and so lucky. I've been at the job for 4 months now and I love it. It is a research and teaching role. This scared me at first because I didn't have any lecturing experience but I've been teaching for the past couple of months and really enjoy it. It's the perfect contrast to sitting alone in the lab doing research, which is where I spend the other half of my time.
Anyway I was told today by a senior colleague (who was on the committee that hired me) that all academic staff in my disciple are expected to attend the ball in early October. We apparently go as a show of support for our students or something along those lines. I love getting dressed up, eating good food and socialising but I am terrified if I go I will drink. I promised myself that if I took this job and uprooted my whole life I would do whatever it took to impress but I'm also very committed to my sobriety right now. Plus no one will be impressed at all if I get blackout drunk like I usually do at these types of events. On the other hand I am new to this city and I don't know anybody, it would be nice to interact with my colleagues socially.
There is a no alcohol ticket option that I could buy if I go. I will also drive to be doubly sure that I won't drink. I know driving doesn't always prevent drinking but even at my worst I've never drank when I was driving, not even one. There is a sad story behind that but that's for another day.
Maybe I am strong enough to do this but I don't know for sure. When I was in the Dec 2017 class I went to a party at 30 days sober and blew it big time. After that I drank for 7 more months until I joined here.
Not sure what I will do but somehow just writing this out helped me feel better.
Hope everyone out there is sober and happy!
Today at work I was met with my first real challenge and I am not sure what to do. Some background I finished my PhD and got offered an academic position right away...which was incredible and so lucky. I've been at the job for 4 months now and I love it. It is a research and teaching role. This scared me at first because I didn't have any lecturing experience but I've been teaching for the past couple of months and really enjoy it. It's the perfect contrast to sitting alone in the lab doing research, which is where I spend the other half of my time.
Anyway I was told today by a senior colleague (who was on the committee that hired me) that all academic staff in my disciple are expected to attend the ball in early October. We apparently go as a show of support for our students or something along those lines. I love getting dressed up, eating good food and socialising but I am terrified if I go I will drink. I promised myself that if I took this job and uprooted my whole life I would do whatever it took to impress but I'm also very committed to my sobriety right now. Plus no one will be impressed at all if I get blackout drunk like I usually do at these types of events. On the other hand I am new to this city and I don't know anybody, it would be nice to interact with my colleagues socially.
There is a no alcohol ticket option that I could buy if I go. I will also drive to be doubly sure that I won't drink. I know driving doesn't always prevent drinking but even at my worst I've never drank when I was driving, not even one. There is a sad story behind that but that's for another day.
Maybe I am strong enough to do this but I don't know for sure. When I was in the Dec 2017 class I went to a party at 30 days sober and blew it big time. After that I drank for 7 more months until I joined here.
Not sure what I will do but somehow just writing this out helped me feel better.
Hope everyone out there is sober and happy!
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Hi Hills . Is there any way you could take a partner? Someone who knows about your abstinence - who could help you ?
Thanx JT , I looked back at our part 3 and the last time RAL posted was on 30/08
RAL, where are you ? Please come and join us , we need you !!
Thanx JT , I looked back at our part 3 and the last time RAL posted was on 30/08
RAL, where are you ? Please come and join us , we need you !!
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Hey Ayers! My husband knows I am not drinking at the moment and will probably come. He is understandably skeptical of my newfound sobriety because he has heard it a billion times. I usually swear off alcohol every time I get drunk then am back at it the next weekend. I'm not sure he views my drinking in the same way as I do if that makes sense? I've always been a binge drinker since he's known me and he doesn't seem overly bothered by it. Sometimes he finds it annoying but not soul crushing like I do. In fact I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm overreacting.
Not that he isn't supportive and he hardly ever drinks so he never pressures me. Thankfully our relationship has never revolved around alcohol so he has always been a safe place for me when I am sober. I just know that he would never tell me not to have a drink at the ball if I decided I wanted one. It's one of the many things I love about him he never tries to control or tell me what to do, which is basically impossible anyway.
I want to say I can't go but I also feel like it would look bad.
Not that he isn't supportive and he hardly ever drinks so he never pressures me. Thankfully our relationship has never revolved around alcohol so he has always been a safe place for me when I am sober. I just know that he would never tell me not to have a drink at the ball if I decided I wanted one. It's one of the many things I love about him he never tries to control or tell me what to do, which is basically impossible anyway.
I want to say I can't go but I also feel like it would look bad.
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If all else fails - lie 
Either say you're not feeling well on the day of the event and don't go, or go to the event , keep your glass filled with NA drinks and say it's because you're not feeling well / are on medication , whatever .
I don't feel bad about "white lies" if it means I am protecting my sobriety. Might not be morally right, and might not be how I want to embark on my journey , but in the early stages if that's what needs to be done , then I'll do it .I had a bday party on Saturday and one of my very good friends sat next to me - asked why I was not drinking - and I said because I'm taking a break from alcohol , it makes me feel ill and I'm not enjoying it anymore . Wich is partly true.
We have all had to face functions and parties at some stage , but if you feel you are not ready, just don't go !!! Your sobriety should be right at the top of your list of priorities.
I hope you find a solution, I feel for you , I know it is very difficult.
Stay strong, Hills ! Rooting for you !!
Either say you're not feeling well on the day of the event and don't go, or go to the event , keep your glass filled with NA drinks and say it's because you're not feeling well / are on medication , whatever .
I don't feel bad about "white lies" if it means I am protecting my sobriety. Might not be morally right, and might not be how I want to embark on my journey , but in the early stages if that's what needs to be done , then I'll do it .I had a bday party on Saturday and one of my very good friends sat next to me - asked why I was not drinking - and I said because I'm taking a break from alcohol , it makes me feel ill and I'm not enjoying it anymore . Wich is partly true.
We have all had to face functions and parties at some stage , but if you feel you are not ready, just don't go !!! Your sobriety should be right at the top of your list of priorities.
I hope you find a solution, I feel for you , I know it is very difficult.
Stay strong, Hills ! Rooting for you !!
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Whaddup August people. Greetings from July 2018. Check it out here: https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-daily-support-threads/430608-class-july-2018-part-2-a.html
As you will see I’ve been using it basically as my own personal journal, whilst keeping it open for people to return as and when they come back to sobriety and the site (I hope!). It’s been really therapeutic, I’ve enjoyed recording my journey, but we are down to two people 😥. I will keep it open and post daily a short message to keep it open to a few people who I hope will return (they may of course choose not to rejoin that group as a new start may be their preference). But I’ll do my bit
Can I join your group for ongoing support, banter and general sober-living? It’ll take a while to get to know you all but I think it’s sensible for me to join a group of people with a strong shared goal.
My start date is 24 July, so I’m on 44 days. (I don’t count days but I do mark anniversary’s.) So I must be very close to some of you who started beginning of August....
As you will see I’ve been using it basically as my own personal journal, whilst keeping it open for people to return as and when they come back to sobriety and the site (I hope!). It’s been really therapeutic, I’ve enjoyed recording my journey, but we are down to two people 😥. I will keep it open and post daily a short message to keep it open to a few people who I hope will return (they may of course choose not to rejoin that group as a new start may be their preference). But I’ll do my bit
Can I join your group for ongoing support, banter and general sober-living? It’ll take a while to get to know you all but I think it’s sensible for me to join a group of people with a strong shared goal.
My start date is 24 July, so I’m on 44 days. (I don’t count days but I do mark anniversary’s.) So I must be very close to some of you who started beginning of August....
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Good Morning Augustonians,
It's another fine day to be sober.
My holiday approaches with alarming speed now. I get so frazzled when I go away....I am one of those mad people who have to spring clean the house & have everything sorted to within an inch of its life. It tires me out and makes me so anxious that I generally pass the first few days away being grumpy until I relax.
Mad, huh? Anyway I will be somewhere where there is reasonable internet access, so should be able to come here and chill with my lovely Augustonians most days.
Ayres, totally with you on the mood shifts. I can be happy clappy one minute & Mrs Doom & Gloom the next. Pfft. Anyway, just have to smile at myself and carry on.
JT, Thank you for your posts, every day I take something that inspires me from them. Yours and others eloquence blow me away.
Bekind, Thank you for keeping us updated. So nice that your Mum fell in love with your Dad again, how wonderful. Sadly my Mum has gone the other way, but not sharing about her today.
Snufkin, Hope everything is alright with you? Thinking of you.
Love the stuff about St Augustine. We are following in the footsteps of a former "wild child", haha, I can deal with that.
Anyway just wanted to check in with you all, but as usual, I have meandered.
Love to All, SP
It's another fine day to be sober.
My holiday approaches with alarming speed now. I get so frazzled when I go away....I am one of those mad people who have to spring clean the house & have everything sorted to within an inch of its life. It tires me out and makes me so anxious that I generally pass the first few days away being grumpy until I relax.
Mad, huh? Anyway I will be somewhere where there is reasonable internet access, so should be able to come here and chill with my lovely Augustonians most days.
Ayres, totally with you on the mood shifts. I can be happy clappy one minute & Mrs Doom & Gloom the next. Pfft. Anyway, just have to smile at myself and carry on.
JT, Thank you for your posts, every day I take something that inspires me from them. Yours and others eloquence blow me away.
Bekind, Thank you for keeping us updated. So nice that your Mum fell in love with your Dad again, how wonderful. Sadly my Mum has gone the other way, but not sharing about her today.
Snufkin, Hope everything is alright with you? Thinking of you.
Love the stuff about St Augustine. We are following in the footsteps of a former "wild child", haha, I can deal with that.
Anyway just wanted to check in with you all, but as usual, I have meandered.
Love to All, SP
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Originally Posted by Ben123 
Whaddup August people. Greetings from July 2018. Check it out here: https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-daily-support-threads/430608-class-july-2018-part-2-a.html
As you will see I’ve been using it basically as my own personal journal, whilst keeping it open for people to return as and when they come back to sobriety and the site (I hope!). It’s been really therapeutic, I’ve enjoyed recording my journey, but we are down to two people 😥. I will keep it open and post daily a short message to keep it open to a few people who I hope will return (they may of course choose not to rejoin that group as a new start may be their preference). But I’ll do my bit
Can I join your group for ongoing support, banter and general sober-living? It’ll take a while to get to know you all but I think it’s sensible for me to join a group of people with a strong shared goal.
My start date is 24 July, so I’m on 44 days. (I don’t count days but I do mark anniversary’s.) So I must be very close to some of you who started beginning of August....
As you will see I’ve been using it basically as my own personal journal, whilst keeping it open for people to return as and when they come back to sobriety and the site (I hope!). It’s been really therapeutic, I’ve enjoyed recording my journey, but we are down to two people 😥. I will keep it open and post daily a short message to keep it open to a few people who I hope will return (they may of course choose not to rejoin that group as a new start may be their preference). But I’ll do my bit
Can I join your group for ongoing support, banter and general sober-living? It’ll take a while to get to know you all but I think it’s sensible for me to join a group of people with a strong shared goal.
My start date is 24 July, so I’m on 44 days. (I don’t count days but I do mark anniversary’s.) So I must be very close to some of you who started beginning of August....
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Ayers - yes I am on day 14. I just wanted ask, are we reading the same book? It sounds like your book is following someone's story? Mine doesn't read like that? I'm a bit confused, maybe I need to keep reading..
Hills - it sounds like a hard choice you have. I do wonder about something, forgive me if I'm stepping over the line, you said you 'could' buy the non alcoholic ticket, is there a hint of leaving the door open for options? Rather than will buy the NA ticket. I know how hard it is in a new place to make friends, especially without alcohol involved when it has always been the go too..
I hope you make the right decision for you..
I just realised that RUL and RAL are different people, whoops, my brain had merged you both into one.
Today my partner called me at finish time and asked if we could do something together.. Brain freak out again! What do we do that's non drinking and fun or enjoyable? It sucks that the brain is wired to think enjoyment/fun = alcohol involvement and that non alcohol activities are boring. Time to rewire my brain, seriously. He was so good, he checked 1st if I was still staying away from the booze, then suggested we go for a delicious, smoothie or juice and then took me to an organic cafe.. It was so nice, such a win. Each moment like that is a reference for the future, each time we pass a test then we know we can do this..
Anyway my dinner is ready so I must go..
I may post again later as I want to take a more active part in the group..
Hills - it sounds like a hard choice you have. I do wonder about something, forgive me if I'm stepping over the line, you said you 'could' buy the non alcoholic ticket, is there a hint of leaving the door open for options? Rather than will buy the NA ticket. I know how hard it is in a new place to make friends, especially without alcohol involved when it has always been the go too..
I hope you make the right decision for you..
I just realised that RUL and RAL are different people, whoops, my brain had merged you both into one.
Today my partner called me at finish time and asked if we could do something together.. Brain freak out again! What do we do that's non drinking and fun or enjoyable? It sucks that the brain is wired to think enjoyment/fun = alcohol involvement and that non alcohol activities are boring. Time to rewire my brain, seriously. He was so good, he checked 1st if I was still staying away from the booze, then suggested we go for a delicious, smoothie or juice and then took me to an organic cafe.. It was so nice, such a win. Each moment like that is a reference for the future, each time we pass a test then we know we can do this..
Anyway my dinner is ready so I must go..
I may post again later as I want to take a more active part in the group..
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I see what you mean Red. You don’t have to worry about over stepping with me I prefer honest opinions and observations. What I meant when I wrote it was I could buy a no alcohol ticket and go or I could not go at all. The second option is definitely safer because I have no intention of drinking...until I do and I just do it. That’s what’s happened in the past. Anyways I’ll sleep on it.
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Good morning all. Day 22 here. Red-I completely agree about learning other cultures. Can't wait to hear some from where you live. Kinda fits right in with the list from BeKind that was made with where everyone is from in this group. I remember learning about Easter in Greece last year from Strawberry 
Alice-Good to hear from you again. Suze-I don't say this nearly enough, but congrats on all the hard work you have done for yourself and glad we all get to enjoy and learn from it too. Ayers-Happy Spring!
JT-At our tailgate, we claim an area on campus and spend the time before the game eating and drinking and socializing. Sometimes drinking games and exotic foods. Yes, a high percentage usually get very drunk. Some never make it to the game. Most do. We are a small minority that leaves the tailgate before the game starts, and go home to watch on TV in the comfort of our home. Usually no problems with drunk brawling because the hometown fans far outnumber the visiting fans. It can get dicey if it is a nearby school or rivalry.
Hills-Congrats on the PhD!
Love the St. Augustine history too, but St. Augustine is also one of my favorite places to visit in Florida as well.
Have a great day!
Alice-Good to hear from you again. Suze-I don't say this nearly enough, but congrats on all the hard work you have done for yourself and glad we all get to enjoy and learn from it too. Ayers-Happy Spring!
JT-At our tailgate, we claim an area on campus and spend the time before the game eating and drinking and socializing. Sometimes drinking games and exotic foods. Yes, a high percentage usually get very drunk. Some never make it to the game. Most do. We are a small minority that leaves the tailgate before the game starts, and go home to watch on TV in the comfort of our home. Usually no problems with drunk brawling because the hometown fans far outnumber the visiting fans. It can get dicey if it is a nearby school or rivalry.
Hills-Congrats on the PhD!
Love the St. Augustine history too, but St. Augustine is also one of my favorite places to visit in Florida as well.
Have a great day!
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Hills I think in 6 months it's going to be hard for people to remember if you were there or not.
in years to come you'll be able to fo to these things and thought of drinking will be laughable...but that takes time and experience.
If you think there's a chance you'll drink, don't go - I'd rather be a no show than on show, yeah?
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in years to come you'll be able to fo to these things and thought of drinking will be laughable...but that takes time and experience.
If you think there's a chance you'll drink, don't go - I'd rather be a no show than on show, yeah?
D
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It'sBeenToo Long, I know what you mean about being nervous at hitting a point that typically leads to a slip. I'm the same way about 6 days, but I'm happily almost twice pasts that (11 days!). I'm doubling down on reading, touching base with my SR supports, taking time to honestly think about my sobriety every morning and evening. I'm the last one who should be giving advice, but that's working for me so far. Might help …
BeKind, 26 days! Wow. You're rocking it! JT, Ben, Bob … good work!
Ayers, I also wake up feeling hung over and wondering what the heck? Usually a cup of coffee knocks the fog away. But it's still a little weird. I wonder if that passes as we get further into sobriety?
JT, hello lovely!
Hills, if you're not quite ready … fake the flu. Don't risk it. If you are ready, go in with a plan (NA drink in hand, support friend at the ready, leave early, focus on getting to know people instead of waiting at the bar). Bottom line, IMHO, is don't risk it.
Good luck, everyone. Planning to check in again tonight, sober!
BeKind, 26 days! Wow. You're rocking it! JT, Ben, Bob … good work!
Ayers, I also wake up feeling hung over and wondering what the heck? Usually a cup of coffee knocks the fog away. But it's still a little weird. I wonder if that passes as we get further into sobriety?
JT, hello lovely!
Hills, if you're not quite ready … fake the flu. Don't risk it. If you are ready, go in with a plan (NA drink in hand, support friend at the ready, leave early, focus on getting to know people instead of waiting at the bar). Bottom line, IMHO, is don't risk it.
Good luck, everyone. Planning to check in again tonight, sober!
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“The distance between a dream and reality is discipline”. The distance between sobriety and alcoholism is discipline. Discipline is learning and, in the case of alcoholism, it is learning what you need to be able to remain sober. That takes self-awareness, support, and a plan.
Knowing that a circumstance may be challenging is half the battle. Having support (either tangible or remote) will give you strength to stick to the plan. Is your support beside you and aware of your challenge,? Can you imagine that someone who loves you would be in your corner if they knew how hard being sober is? Planning your responses and a strategy to exit gracefully can help to decrease your anxiety. You don’t have to use the words you plan, but having them as tools is empowering.
In the end I think that “commitment” (much more than a word, more than a one-time declaration) to sobriety is the answer, but tools and planning make it possible.
Knowing that a circumstance may be challenging is half the battle. Having support (either tangible or remote) will give you strength to stick to the plan. Is your support beside you and aware of your challenge,? Can you imagine that someone who loves you would be in your corner if they knew how hard being sober is? Planning your responses and a strategy to exit gracefully can help to decrease your anxiety. You don’t have to use the words you plan, but having them as tools is empowering.
In the end I think that “commitment” (much more than a word, more than a one-time declaration) to sobriety is the answer, but tools and planning make it possible.
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Ben,
I stopped drinking on July 23, so I’m there with you too. I joined the August group because it was late in July, and also because my birthday is in August (birthday= beginning) . We use months to define our groups, but that isn’t the criteria.
I stopped drinking on July 23, so I’m there with you too. I joined the August group because it was late in July, and also because my birthday is in August (birthday= beginning) . We use months to define our groups, but that isn’t the criteria.
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