Class of March 2016 part 34
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Originally Posted by Spacegoat 
I dunno Pheonix, 'judge not lest he be judged' etc.
I predicted Hillary would be the next president so I'm sticking with that!
It's a kinda weird presidential race this though?
I predicted Hillary would be the next president so I'm sticking with that!
It's a kinda weird presidential race this though?
Good morning class! Spacegoat, Kayak - so good to see you guys! When you are not here, we miss you!
Kayak - good luck with your results. Great job on your chip!
Spacegoat - I like your signature.
Phoenix - Good afternoon!
Have a great day everyone! Drinking is dumb.
I hope you all have a great day!
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SG- I do not live there. This debate has been mentioned a few times today (usually by me) around informed people. Well- I listen to political analysis by some expert in Australia and read the news reports, watched a bit of the debate (too long- had 2 meetings recovery stuff as well). The general consensus is the whole thing is scary. Especially around that word 'rigged'.
As William Shatner used to say 'weird or what?' A globally important event.
Australia was through the commonwealth loyal to Britain. Then WW1- Gallipoli being burned on the nation's mind. In WW2, some argue England kind of left Australia to fend for itself against the Japanese. Thus loyalties turned to the US. Now there are some who are arguing seeing as Australia is in the Pacific- alliances should be focussed closer to home.
Me- well I stay sober, recycle my plastic, turn off lights and pray to god the world is not wiped out of existence in a cataclysmic 'Terminator' type apocalypse- machine run or human, dead is dead.
As William Shatner used to say 'weird or what?' A globally important event.
Australia was through the commonwealth loyal to Britain. Then WW1- Gallipoli being burned on the nation's mind. In WW2, some argue England kind of left Australia to fend for itself against the Japanese. Thus loyalties turned to the US. Now there are some who are arguing seeing as Australia is in the Pacific- alliances should be focussed closer to home.
Me- well I stay sober, recycle my plastic, turn off lights and pray to god the world is not wiped out of existence in a cataclysmic 'Terminator' type apocalypse- machine run or human, dead is dead.
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Okay, I am working the steps and I know there are some who would like to, but don't attend AA. So if no one minds, I am going to work the steps here, and anyone else can join me.
Step 1. We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.
I see this as 2 parts. I am powerless over alcohol, and my life is unmanageable trying to run it my way.
Ways I have proven I am powerless over alcohol.
I tried to moderate. Many times.
I would only drink with my husband - lasted about a month.
I would only drink after 5pm - didn't last
I would only drink socially - didn't last
I would only drink beer or wine - didn't last
I would drink a glass of water between each drink - didn't last
Anything I tried - didn't work. I cannot have one drink. Ever. If I do - I end up drinking all of the time and alcohol runs my life. I am powerless over alcohol if I take a drink.
My life had become unmanageable:
I lied to my husband.
I would say I was asleep and I would be at a bar with my friend.
My daughter would lie to my husband for me.
Also - "did you drink today?" me - "no" Always a lie
I lied to my kids. I can't pick you up - get a ride - I am busy - I am sick. Reality - I was drunk.
I lied to my employer. I can't work - I am sick. Lie - I was hungover.
Finances got out of control.
House was a mess.
I neglected myself. Physically and mentally I was breaking down.
I drove drunk. My kids, my granddaughter. My parents once.
I stopped attending social functions. Baby showers, birthday parties, everything.
My only friends were also heavy drinkers.
I stopped hanging with my immediate family because they did not drink.
I didn't want to live anymore because my life was unmanageable. I couldn't work my life my way. I had to trust in my higher power to help me live my life.
Okay. That's my step one. Not sure if I got it all correct. I go over this with my sponsor tonight. Just wanted to invite anyone that wants to do the process to do it with me.
Step 1. We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.
I see this as 2 parts. I am powerless over alcohol, and my life is unmanageable trying to run it my way.
Ways I have proven I am powerless over alcohol.
I tried to moderate. Many times.
I would only drink with my husband - lasted about a month.
I would only drink after 5pm - didn't last
I would only drink socially - didn't last
I would only drink beer or wine - didn't last
I would drink a glass of water between each drink - didn't last
Anything I tried - didn't work. I cannot have one drink. Ever. If I do - I end up drinking all of the time and alcohol runs my life. I am powerless over alcohol if I take a drink.
My life had become unmanageable:
I lied to my husband.
I would say I was asleep and I would be at a bar with my friend.
My daughter would lie to my husband for me.
Also - "did you drink today?" me - "no" Always a lie
I lied to my kids. I can't pick you up - get a ride - I am busy - I am sick. Reality - I was drunk.
I lied to my employer. I can't work - I am sick. Lie - I was hungover.
Finances got out of control.
House was a mess.
I neglected myself. Physically and mentally I was breaking down.
I drove drunk. My kids, my granddaughter. My parents once.
I stopped attending social functions. Baby showers, birthday parties, everything.
My only friends were also heavy drinkers.
I stopped hanging with my immediate family because they did not drink.
I didn't want to live anymore because my life was unmanageable. I couldn't work my life my way. I had to trust in my higher power to help me live my life.
Okay. That's my step one. Not sure if I got it all correct. I go over this with my sponsor tonight. Just wanted to invite anyone that wants to do the process to do it with me.
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Originally Posted by Kayak63sc
Good morning friends. Sorry I've missed a lot I've been in the middle of 30 meeting's in 30 days. Got my silver chip this week :-) I will also find out today if I can go back to work my eye is doing much better. I will do all I can to catch up with the room have a beautiful day
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Originally Posted by Bobbieka
Okay, I am working the steps and I know there are some who would like to, but don't attend AA. So if no one minds, I am going to work the steps here, and anyone else can join me.
Step 1. We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.
I see this as 2 parts. I am powerless over alcohol, and my life is unmanageable trying to run it my way.
Ways I have proven I am powerless over alcohol.
I tried to moderate. Many times.
I would only drink with my husband - lasted about a month.
I would only drink after 5pm - didn't last
I would only drink socially - didn't last
I would only drink beer or wine - didn't last
I would drink a glass of water between each drink - didn't last
Anything I tried - didn't work. I cannot have one drink. Ever. If I do - I end up drinking all of the time and alcohol runs my life. I am powerless over alcohol if I take a drink.
My life had become unmanageable:
I lied to my husband.
I would say I was asleep and I would be at a bar with my friend.
My daughter would lie to my husband for me.
Also - "did you drink today?" me - "no" Always a lie
I lied to my kids. I can't pick you up - get a ride - I am busy - I am sick. Reality - I was drunk.
I lied to my employer. I can't work - I am sick. Lie - I was hungover.
Finances got out of control.
House was a mess.
I neglected myself. Physically and mentally I was breaking down.
I drove drunk. My kids, my granddaughter. My parents once.
I stopped attending social functions. Baby showers, birthday parties, everything.
My only friends were also heavy drinkers.
I stopped hanging with my immediate family because they did not drink.
I didn't want to live anymore because my life was unmanageable. I couldn't work my life my way. I had to trust in my higher power to help me live my life.
Okay. That's my step one. Not sure if I got it all correct. I go over this with my sponsor tonight. Just wanted to invite anyone that wants to do the process to do it with me.
Step 1. We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.
I see this as 2 parts. I am powerless over alcohol, and my life is unmanageable trying to run it my way.
Ways I have proven I am powerless over alcohol.
I tried to moderate. Many times.
I would only drink with my husband - lasted about a month.
I would only drink after 5pm - didn't last
I would only drink socially - didn't last
I would only drink beer or wine - didn't last
I would drink a glass of water between each drink - didn't last
Anything I tried - didn't work. I cannot have one drink. Ever. If I do - I end up drinking all of the time and alcohol runs my life. I am powerless over alcohol if I take a drink.
My life had become unmanageable:
I lied to my husband.
I would say I was asleep and I would be at a bar with my friend.
My daughter would lie to my husband for me.
Also - "did you drink today?" me - "no" Always a lie
I lied to my kids. I can't pick you up - get a ride - I am busy - I am sick. Reality - I was drunk.
I lied to my employer. I can't work - I am sick. Lie - I was hungover.
Finances got out of control.
House was a mess.
I neglected myself. Physically and mentally I was breaking down.
I drove drunk. My kids, my granddaughter. My parents once.
I stopped attending social functions. Baby showers, birthday parties, everything.
My only friends were also heavy drinkers.
I stopped hanging with my immediate family because they did not drink.
I didn't want to live anymore because my life was unmanageable. I couldn't work my life my way. I had to trust in my higher power to help me live my life.
Okay. That's my step one. Not sure if I got it all correct. I go over this with my sponsor tonight. Just wanted to invite anyone that wants to do the process to do it with me.
The powerless part was tricky for me until my sponsor asked me if I could safely predict what would happen after taking a drink. I couldn't. Sometimes I would end up vomiting and passed out with no idea what I said or did and other times things would be "ok". It was like playing Russian Roulette with my life. It's the first drink that gets us!
You did amazing!
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B- I am doing a 'Bachelor of John' at the moment. My study tool for collecting evidence and presenting written assignments in my theoretical construct is the steps. For the last 8 months probably at least 4 hours a day. I have pretty much lost every thing, so being in an environment where I could/can do as much work about me, for me, by me- I will and do. My sponsor is quite strict about this. My first 'lessons' were going through the BB - reading it out aloud and then using that chapter to live, work on, reflect, grow, shout, dispute etc for that week.
About a month ago with out any prompting from me- he declared I had completed my 'virgin' run of the process. However for me it is saturated into every thought, action, behaviour I do- each and every day. I take it very, very seriously.
What do I think of your stuff re step 1? I my humble opinion, bearing mind you I am no expert that...
About a month ago with out any prompting from me- he declared I had completed my 'virgin' run of the process. However for me it is saturated into every thought, action, behaviour I do- each and every day. I take it very, very seriously.
What do I think of your stuff re step 1? I my humble opinion, bearing mind you I am no expert that...
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Hehe, and you Kiki!
The quote is from Terence Mckenna's 'Alien Dreamtime' thing Bobbie.
I've been considering it over the past number of weeks and wondering to myself "where is there a community like that?". And the answer came to me this morning, it's here (SR).
The quote is from Terence Mckenna's 'Alien Dreamtime' thing Bobbie.
I've been considering it over the past number of weeks and wondering to myself "where is there a community like that?". And the answer came to me this morning, it's here (SR).
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BLOODY BRILLIANT!
Your words are raw and very honest. I know that is a scary thing to tell another person. You have thought this through for some time. You have embraced the spirit of the process. Note but- the backbone of the step work is sharing. listening and learning from others by going to meetings. AA is not revolving around a fundamental Christian interpretation of god. You have a HP, great stuff. I commend you for taking a risk (as I saw it when I did it) and well done, very- very well done. PJ.
Your words are raw and very honest. I know that is a scary thing to tell another person. You have thought this through for some time. You have embraced the spirit of the process. Note but- the backbone of the step work is sharing. listening and learning from others by going to meetings. AA is not revolving around a fundamental Christian interpretation of god. You have a HP, great stuff. I commend you for taking a risk (as I saw it when I did it) and well done, very- very well done. PJ.
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