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Old 12-09-2014, 01:08 AM
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Day 24, still sober. Feel ok but having lots of sugar cravings. Is this normal? I seem to be craving sugar and chocolate more than alcohol. Its weird as I don't really eat much sugar or sweet junk food.

This week should be straight forward enough until Saturday. But I earn my full month next Monday and I really want to hit that milestone so its a good incentive.

My AV almost had its victory yesterday. Sorry to bore you with the details but it helps me to talk it out. I live in China mostly and the food is (s)hit and miss. Over the years it has been a real challenge to eat well and consistently so most foreigners eat a combination of imported and local food. The imported food is really expensive but of reliable quality and there are times when you just need some home comforts, even if that is just a box of muesli or a steak.

Once a year at Xmas my friends and I push the boat out and do an Xmas brunch with all the trappings. Full Xmas dinner, turkey, ham, buffet style....with unlimited champagne and wine included. We get a decent price and everyone really goes for it. After work stresses, v cold weather and crappy food its something to look forward to. They are all huge drinkers so with all the food and floods of wine flowing, xmas hats and carols you get the picture.

This year my AV convinced me to make an exception from my staying dry for this one day. No drinking beforehand and no drinking afterwards but to enjoy the day and let my hair down. No three day bender, just that one day. And my wife would be there to witness me staying in control. I even told my wife that I would drink on that day and went to bed. I woke up this morning thinking WTF!!! That sly SOB almost had me. No drinking...ever. Thats what I promised myself and that how it has to be. Now excuse me while I hide in my room and cry and feel sorry for myself.
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:32 AM
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Great job UBN! That voice can come at you all the time, short term, long term, sets it up for later, etc.
I'm incredibly physched that I didn't drink anything last night, I probably wouldn't be up at 4:20a getting ready to workout. I would have been lying in bed, awake, full of regret and thinking how bad I feel.
I need to take your advice and get all the alcohol out of the house, it won't be easy. You and Gypsy will probably think it is crazy, but I have a liquor cabinet filled with yrs of gifts of Absolut, Wild Turkey,Gin, Tequila, etc, etc. I'm just not a liquor person, my family drinks that stuff when they are over, but even at their consumption level it would last awhile, I am going to re-gift those bottles this year to each family member, they each have their favorites. Getting rid of the beer /wine is another story, got to figure that one out or I'll have more days like yesterday, although I really think my sober muscles got a good workout yesterday!
Got to go, have a great day everyone.
Remember, nothing good comes from alcohol and I don't need alcohol to live.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:01 AM
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Magellan - See, I told you you'd feel pumped after beating that voice in your head yesterday.....well done not picking up, I understand how seductive and demanding that voice can in your head can be.

To everyone else not had time to read back but have a good day all.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:09 AM
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Well done ubn! It's amazing how the voice can rear it's ugliness...even for an event that isn't here yet!

Day 10 for me, thank goodness I am back in double digits.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:09 AM
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Doing my daily check in day 42

Sry to hear about ur daughter phoebe glad nothing came of the fall and good job on u not picking up.

Good job on everyone else as well

I'm not doing anything interesting today got work this evening so will just be fighting the fed up feeling until then. Hope the bitch AV doesn't start up

Anyway have all a good day if I can xx
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:48 AM
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Phoebe, that's so scary about your daughter! I'm so glad she's OK.

Checking in on another rainy morning. The house is still a complete mess, which makes me feel unsettled. I'm feeling like I need more face time in the office, so it may have to stay like this for a few days. Hope everyone has a great day!
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:02 AM
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Phoebe - I hope your daughter (and you!) are feeling better this morning! Hopefully got some sleep, too. Hugs!
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:12 AM
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Phoebe - that's scary, always is when one of our kids gets hurt. I'm glad she's doing okay.

Ubn -- that sneaky sneaky AV, making plans in advance to make you drink! Our plan just needs to be stronger than the AV plan, I guess.

Today is 30 days for me -- feels like this time has gone both fast and slow. But I'm very happy and proud of myself. Have a great day, everyone!!
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:21 AM
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All seemed fine this morning, other than some bruises.

I slept well, and am forcing myself to shut down the computer until lunch! So, I will check in then.
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Congratulations, workforit!!! 30 days is amazing!
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:39 AM
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Hi everyone. I've been here reading. I've been maintenance drinking for a couple of weeks, so I'm ok but exhausted and can't sleep. Yay!

I want to share that as I sat at the cafe with my beer today, surrounded by friends and alcohol, an acquaintance approached me. I like him, he's always very humorous and quite flamboyant. He sat next to me and quietly told me that if I ever wanted to talk about my alcohol issues, he was available. I engaged with him, and he told me he has 14 years sober. We discussed it for a while and I believe he has good intentions and this is a person who I can trust. He did say towards the end of the rushed conversation that AA is what did it for him. A good friend who I spoke to said he is cool, but I don't know for sure that I can trust him. I'm such a weirdo magnet. Like attracting like.

I want to be sober, so I can like myself again and get out of this grey. Best to you all, any feedback would be warmly welcomed.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:50 AM
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well TEC, from the little you said about his guy he seems decent enough. All friendships need to start somewhere and with a little trust. In this case, your intuition is to trust him and you have a friend who has vouched for him. Plus, you need to break out of this funk that you are in. Why not give it a shot, talk to the guy and see where it goes? Sounds like at a minimum he has some useful experience he can share with you.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:07 AM
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Morning all.

Way to go ubn, workforit and erratic!

TEC, could be this is an opportunity. We always think we are hiding our drinking from others. More people know than we like to think. I know I've certainly had people notice who I thought were "in the dark" about it. Maybe this person can help you take a step forward.

Hi Apple and Christina! Hope you are well. Bbf? You around?
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ubntubnt View Post
Day 24, still sober. Feel ok but having lots of sugar cravings. Is this normal? I seem to be craving sugar and chocolate more than alcohol. Its weird as I don't really eat much sugar or sweet junk food...

This year my AV convinced me to make an exception from my staying dry for this one day. No drinking beforehand and no drinking afterwards but to enjoy the day and let my hair down. No three day bender, just that one day. And my wife would be there to witness me staying in control. I even told my wife that I would drink on that day and went to bed. I woke up this morning thinking WTF!!! That sly SOB almost had me. No drinking...ever. Thats what I promised myself and that how it has to be. Now excuse me while I hide in my room and cry and feel sorry for myself.
Yes, I never was much for sugary foods, but I eat chocolate ice cream every night now. It's my new craving instead of alcohol.

I drank 1.5 glasses of wine on Thanksgiving, but otherwise haven't drank anything alcoholic since November 13. I was surprised at how strong the cravings to drink were the next two days. Be forewarned. I won't try it again.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:27 AM
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UB I used to be into savoury now since giving up its sweet food. It happens due to our sugar levels lower when coming of the alcohol as there is a lot of sugar in it.

If I need the sweet I would go for it of it helps with any cravings.

Talking about cravings I have had some strong ones today so o have just had a bowl of porridge. Got work this evening so hope it stops.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:49 AM
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He sat next to me and quietly told me that if I ever wanted to talk about my alcohol issues, he was available. I engaged with him, and he told me he has 14 years sober. We discussed it for a while and I believe he has good intentions and this is a person who I can trust. He did say towards the end of the rushed conversation that AA is what did it for him. A good friend who I spoke to said he is cool, but I don't know for sure that I can trust him. I'm such a weirdo magnet. Like attracting like.
Trust him with what? Things said in confidence? Sexual vulnerability? Set whatever boundaries with him you feel comfortable with. I would suggest conservative ones until you have known him a long time and have some sobriety under your belt.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:18 AM
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Checking in. Its been a work from home today, generally by now I would have been few scotch's down. Surprisingly I had no AVs. Spent the morning in meetings and am going to take rest of the day off.

UBN - well done, being able to control the AV.

Workforit - Keep going strong. congrats on 30 days.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:01 AM
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Checking in too. Had some disturbing news about my ex stalking my daughter over the weekend, have been avoiding thinking too much about it. Other than that I'm feeling pretty low. The Christmas season is hard for me as it reminds me of my mother's death. She died in 1996 but during this time it's painfully fresh in my mind. This period between my brothers birthday (today) and mine next week has never been the same. Her long time live in bf finally married her on the 10th that year in the hospital, she passed on the 12th and her funeral was on my birthday. I know a lot of time has passed and it should be less but it's still hard.

I'm still not sleeping well. Or at night anyway. At least I can nap since I'm still off my feet. I've been trying to put a little weight in the heel, with the boot & crutches...and standing a little. Ouch. It's cold & raining & gray here too.


I hope your daughter feels okay Phoebe. My son rolled down our stairs when he was about 2...I still remember the sound of him hitting each step. Horrifying but he was alright.I'm glad your daughter is too.

42 days is awesome Erratic! How's your daughter doing?

Work for it 30!Great !

Ubu good post as usual. It's been my observation that craving sweets, chocolate especially, is common in early sobriety. I say give into it if it helps curb the alcohol cravings. Chocolate is way better ! Depending on your health of course.

Magellan...my eyes widened at that part of your post where you knew it would lol. I think giving it away is a good plan. The sooner the better! Dumping it out would be best .

Doing well groundhog. Keep at it.

Top End Chick... My advice is trust the guy that offered you help. He mentioned AA. I'm guessing he would probably be more than happy escorting you to a meeting and introducing you to women that you could call for f2f support. IMO maintainence drinking is not okay if you truly want sobriety. You seem to want it?

I have 44 days today .
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:18 PM
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Hi all! I just wanted to check in and say I'm still alive, just been very busy. Still sober - today is my Day 18. I will try to post more later when I'm not on my phone.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:39 PM
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