Death is the opposite of Birth-does the spirit live on?

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Old 08-12-2010, 03:07 PM
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SS, When I was down in Florida, I went to a Casino with my sister. Sylvia Browne the psychic was there doing a book signing. She was talking about people who die, and explaining how they don't miss us. How they feel free from every bad thing, and how beautiful it feels where they are. She said, that we miss the dead, and we mourn and hurt, but they do not. Find comfort knowing your boy is fine. He is peaceful.

My oldest brother died of an overdose of heroin. He was clean for 6 years, and decided to get high. He had a near death experience before he died, during a problem with his gall bladder. He said, that he saw GOD, and he kept saying, it's beautiful there, I love that man. I love that man. A week later, he used and died. I think he got a taste of being off of the planet during his gall bladder attack. I often wonder if he did the heroin thing just to go back. I mean, he was clean for 6 years prior to that. I guess I will never know. There's peace and love on the other side. And the spirit does live on.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:04 PM
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Thank you, I am comforted in the outpouring of encouragement, empathy, and wisdom.

Yesterday was rough. Dates, such as the two month mark, trigger by marking the passing of time without my son. I had four hours with him from the time he arrived until he died. I don't want the memory of those 4 hours to fade.
He suffered greatly as an addict.
I have always understood that no matter how much sorrowd our addicted loved ones create, no one suffers more than them.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:31 PM
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I can't agree with you more on this... I think this is why I seek the support here and in groups, because imo this grieving is so different. Although my boyfriend and I shared so many great moments, I always knew there was a sadness inside of him. There were times when he would get high, I would get so mad at him... SO MAD... and then there were times he would get high, I would just look at him and see the most horrible amount of sadness within him. The only thing, the ONLY thing that is bringing me comfort right now is that he no longer has these battles inside of him... I have heard people say they do not miss us? I don't want to seem like I have an ego, but why or how is this. I guess I imagine my love in deep regret that he died and is not here.

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I have always understood that no matter how much sorrowd our addicted loved ones create, no one suffers more than them.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:40 PM
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Little Bird, I think that what was meant is that the spirit is at peace..therefore no "missing anyone or anything" because they are finally free of all attachments on earth and existing in perfect harmony w/ the universe..perfectly at peace
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I can't agree with you more on this... I think this is why I seek the support here and in groups, because imo this grieving is so different. Although my boyfriend and I shared so many great moments, I always knew there was a sadness inside of him. There were times when he would get high, I would get so mad at him... SO MAD... and then there were times he would get high, I would just look at him and see the most horrible amount of sadness within him. The only thing, the ONLY thing that is bringing me comfort right now is that he no longer has these battles inside of him... I have heard people say they do not miss us? I don't want to seem like I have an ego, but why or how is this. I guess I imagine my love in deep regret that he died and is not here.


Awhhhhh Littlebird, I'm so sorry honey. Your grieving, and I really feel for you. It takes time to heal. It's all still such a new hurt for you. Your still stunned from the loss. It's so hard to imagine that we miss them so much, and they don't feel the hurt and pain that we feel. I hope your doing something for yourself, so you get some support for your grief. This is a really hard time right now, and you need to be around some others who are experiencing the same kind of loss, and can really understand you. I'm sorry if my post has hurt you in any way.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:13 AM
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Angelic, you post did not hurt me in anyway, it was just the opposite. While I would think my love misses me the way I miss him. I don't want him to feel any pain where ever he is as he did here... I guess that is what it means. They love us so much that there is nothing to miss. They have been in this world so they can see us, but we have not been in there world so we can't see them... As said I guess they don't miss us because there is nothing to miss if they are looking over us... Do I believe what I just wrote? I have no idea, but it sounds nice.

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Awhhhhh Littlebird, I'm so sorry honey. Your grieving, and I really feel for you. It takes time to heal. It's all still such a new hurt for you. Your still stunned from the loss. It's so hard to imagine that we miss them so much, and they don't feel the hurt and pain that we feel. I hope your doing something for yourself, so you get some support for your grief. This is a really hard time right now, and you need to be around some others who are experiencing the same kind of loss, and can really understand you. I'm sorry if my post has hurt you in any way.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:38 AM
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Yes, I do believe the spirit lives on, and especially the spirit of your son. Do you really think it was totally accidental that you came across that chip? Maybe, in some way he is reaching out to you to help you to remember the times he was sober and not just the pain of his loss and the way he died. He probably never meant to do that and left before he could say goodbye. I hope that you can find the healing that comes from forgiveness, which I'm sure is what he'd want to. I will send prayers of strength and serenity your way.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:25 PM
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SS, I had read your thread yesterday... and tonight when I listened to joel osteen on tv, the message was signs from above. So many have spoken of signs from their loved ones on this thread, I just thought I would mention it in case anyone wants to catch the show this weekend. It repeats tomorrow and may even be on his website.

Praying you find peace in knowing how much your son loved you even though he struggled, and one day in the afterlife you'll see him again. (((HUGS)))
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:07 PM
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SpiritualSeeker, I remember the day my brother died. I was driving a 1990 Lincoln LSC, and I lived in Brooklyn NY at the time. I was at a grocery store when my sister called my cell phone to give me the bad news that my brother had died of an overdose. It was April 19, 1998. I had double parked my car in front of a grocery store, and went in to buy milk. I had locked my car as always, because Brooklyn is a large city with alot of crime, and I didn't want my car stolen. I got my milk and went back to my car in shock after that phone call. I was running home to tell my husband. When I started my car, there was one long stemmed rose sitting on the console. To this day, I will never know where it came from. I'm thinking my brother left it for me. I guess I will never find out. I'm thinking that was a sign. Because my car was locked and nobody could have gotten in. His spirit was traveling and he came to say goodbye to me. I still wonder about that. STRANGE, but true.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:01 PM
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We just have to believe or we want to believe...either way we may find comfort in seeing the signs.
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:13 PM
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I hope more then anything that it does.
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