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I know that I was VERY afraid/ashamed to ask for help (and I still struggle) so if you are and that is your reason for not asking these people or others to help (ultimately your son), please give some time to rethink that mindset. Removing your son for 2 days so the adults have time to deal with this could go a long way for all of you and if they are "dear friends," they should be happy to help.
I am not trying to overstep, I hope you don't mind my suggestion.
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She’s also sweating the idea that she will have to produce bank records for the restaurant she is part owner of. The restaurant that has LOTS of cash transactions that may or may not get reported to the IRS.
If your AW is smart, or her lawyer can talk some sense into her, she is liable to just fold and quit fighting.
I'm useless with childcare--the home I grew up in was so toxic with alcoholism
I realized I was too broken to break the chain and so I chose never to have children.
However, I could play games, toss the ball, take him hiking for a few hours
You are doing the right thing. Sparkle and I, and some others here, grew to adulthood in an untenable situation.
You are saving your son from that. Be strong and be comforted
I realized I was too broken to break the chain and so I chose never to have children.
However, I could play games, toss the ball, take him hiking for a few hours
You are doing the right thing. Sparkle and I, and some others here, grew to adulthood in an untenable situation.
You are saving your son from that. Be strong and be comforted
I'm useless with childcare--the home I grew up in was so toxic with alcoholism
I realized I was too broken to break the chain and so I chose never to have children.
However, I could play games, toss the ball, take him hiking for a few hours
You are doing the right thing. Sparkle and I, and some others here, grew to adulthood in an untenable situation.
You are saving your son from that. Be strong and be comforted
I realized I was too broken to break the chain and so I chose never to have children.
However, I could play games, toss the ball, take him hiking for a few hours
You are doing the right thing. Sparkle and I, and some others here, grew to adulthood in an untenable situation.
You are saving your son from that. Be strong and be comforted
You guys are the BEST!!!!
I'm AWFUL about playing & making time for simple fun. I can hardly tolerate board games at all - this is the biggest area I have for improvement with my parenting. I'd rather take her to the movies, to an event, go shopping or get pedicures than play Monopoly or Life.
How are you holding up, COD? Stomach still in knots?
FS - thanks for asking! I'm wavering between a sense of calm and relief, and also waiting for the sh*t to hit the fan. I know it will get worse before it gets better, and I know I can't worry about the 'what ifs' - I just need to deal with the anger, hate and vile as they come from AW. The fact that I made a move in some direction, ANY direction, helps a bit.
I told my dear friend today at lunch, who is also DS's Godfather. He is not surprised it all came to this. I didn't keep him updated with all the goings-on, but he had a feeling.
I guess I'm in the "in-between" place right now. Closing in on everything getting all turned upside down.
I told my dear friend today at lunch, who is also DS's Godfather. He is not surprised it all came to this. I didn't keep him updated with all the goings-on, but he had a feeling.
I guess I'm in the "in-between" place right now. Closing in on everything getting all turned upside down.
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(Even my husband called me on it the other day when I said I felt guilty he had to deal with something I felt I should have done - "Hey, maybe it's not obvious, but I love the twins and think of them as my own. You're not in this alone.")
Years ago, someone shared a construct called "the Drama Triangle" and I find the more I can apply it, the calmer I can manage things.
The idea is that drama results any time people are wittingly (or unwittingly) cast into one of three roles: Villain, Victim and Hero.
It is SOOOO easy for me to slip into casting myself, my ex and my two children into those roles. But I find that doing so increases the drama, and at the same time, my ability to deal with it, because I get personally riled up in a hero vs villain dynamic.
I have had much more success negotiating when I can use language that's about me versus him: I feel comfortable / uncomfortable, I think it's important, I don't feel it's appropriate for me to police your drinking, your recovery is your responsibility, etc.
There is SOOO much gaslighting that happens in these situations that keeping drama to a minimum helps me to maintain my cool, my detachment, and my focus on what I am trying to achieve:
"I don't want to argue about whether it is right for me to be concerned about your drinking - what's important is that you know that I am concerned, there's nothing that you can say which will change my level of concern, and for child's sake, I feel I have to take action accordingly."
By the way, it took me about three years to figure this out, and I feel like I have only recently been able to put it into practice more than 50% of the time. So easier said than done but maybe you'll be able to apply it from the initial court proceedings in a way that I could not!!
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Hi COD
There came a time when I had to make decisions concerning my addict. I had to face my worst fears. I didn't want to make those decisions & had no strength left to face those fears. But some how I did it. Some how I got it done. I honestly don't know how.
Facing our worst fears is usually not as bad as we thought it was going to be.
I have followed your various threads. I don't believe I ever posted any response. But I want you to know I wish you the best of luck.
Thanks
There came a time when I had to make decisions concerning my addict. I had to face my worst fears. I didn't want to make those decisions & had no strength left to face those fears. But some how I did it. Some how I got it done. I honestly don't know how.
Facing our worst fears is usually not as bad as we thought it was going to be.
I have followed your various threads. I don't believe I ever posted any response. But I want you to know I wish you the best of luck.
Thanks
COD, its been quite a few years since i got out of a severly dysfuntional relationship. just because i was done didnt mean she was. there were many,many days of sh*t hitting the fan.
something that helped me stay sane during those days the sh*t was hitting the fan was kikin back and cranking this up. sometimes it was just when i saw it was her calling:
she may not have appreciated it playing in the background, but it made me feel better.
not suggesting ya do it while interacting with AW,though.
something that helped me stay sane during those days the sh*t was hitting the fan was kikin back and cranking this up. sometimes it was just when i saw it was her calling:
she may not have appreciated it playing in the background, but it made me feel better.
not suggesting ya do it while interacting with AW,though.
I'm REALLY happy to hear that you starting reaching out - I know this is particularly hard for an introvert like you. I hope it gave you even just a tiny bit of relief to have unburdened yourself to a trusting friend. This was a habit I had to intentionally build - I had gone so long never reaching out for any little thing.
I remember being surprised because I expected to feel worse every time I shared (shame, guilt, fear) but ended up walking away feeling lighter & less burdened.... even though nothing really changed as a result of one single conversation like that.
The biggest surprise was that it actually helped me develop deeper trust & friendship in those relationships..... - why? Because I hadn't realized that in allll that time of me never "needing" them I also wasn't doing anything to build trust on my side in that way - I'd give, give, give & then leave the false impression that I never needed....that I was "perfect" in some ways, at least in their view. It made my relationships far more one-sided than I realized or intended & sometimes left others feeling judged (when I wasn't). Doing this increased my own internal pressure to keep up the façade. Once I opened up, people closest to me were like, "Finally! Now I know how to be a real friend to her!"... and we've developed far stronger relationships as a result.
Don't be afraid to show the worthy, supportive people in your life that you have needs too, no matter how few & far between those peeps are!
I remember being surprised because I expected to feel worse every time I shared (shame, guilt, fear) but ended up walking away feeling lighter & less burdened.... even though nothing really changed as a result of one single conversation like that.
The biggest surprise was that it actually helped me develop deeper trust & friendship in those relationships..... - why? Because I hadn't realized that in allll that time of me never "needing" them I also wasn't doing anything to build trust on my side in that way - I'd give, give, give & then leave the false impression that I never needed....that I was "perfect" in some ways, at least in their view. It made my relationships far more one-sided than I realized or intended & sometimes left others feeling judged (when I wasn't). Doing this increased my own internal pressure to keep up the façade. Once I opened up, people closest to me were like, "Finally! Now I know how to be a real friend to her!"... and we've developed far stronger relationships as a result.
Don't be afraid to show the worthy, supportive people in your life that you have needs too, no matter how few & far between those peeps are!
COD......Monitoring your self talk might help. When you tell yourself...."Thing are going to get worse....things are going to get turned all upside down".
Change that to-----"Things might get rocky when she is served....but I am a competent person and I will handle whatever challenge presents itself, I know that help is available and I will use it as necessary".
self talk is very important.....
Change that to-----"Things might get rocky when she is served....but I am a competent person and I will handle whatever challenge presents itself, I know that help is available and I will use it as necessary".
self talk is very important.....
COD......Monitoring your self talk might help. When you tell yourself...."Thing are going to get worse....things are going to get turned all upside down".
Change that to-----"Things might get rocky when she is served....but I am a competent person and I will handle whatever challenge presents itself, I know that help is available and I will use it as necessary".
self talk is very important.....
Change that to-----"Things might get rocky when she is served....but I am a competent person and I will handle whatever challenge presents itself, I know that help is available and I will use it as necessary".
self talk is very important.....
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