Random Thoughts on Being Religious in Secular Recovery
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ananda...no eeeeeks on your truth! It is how you got and stay sober!
I had to laugh at your comment about learning from those who are not in aa and it sometimes being code for what you don't want. (not this time) I appreciate your honesty, I always wondered after being attacked by an angry aa member what they meant by "I have learned from you." LOL
To think there is one way anywhere is narrow minded, you my friend are as open minded as they come, an admiral quality!
Thanks for the thumbs up....truth be told somedays I can't figure myself out!!! LOL
Progress not perfection!
I had to laugh at your comment about learning from those who are not in aa and it sometimes being code for what you don't want. (not this time) I appreciate your honesty, I always wondered after being attacked by an angry aa member what they meant by "I have learned from you." LOL
To think there is one way anywhere is narrow minded, you my friend are as open minded as they come, an admiral quality!
Thanks for the thumbs up....truth be told somedays I can't figure myself out!!! LOL
Progress not perfection!
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I always wondered after being attacked by an angry aa member what they meant by "I have learned from you." LOL
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Rufus, so glad you are getting help in the program of AA. We have a wonderful secular forum for those that work the steps and are agnostic. I'm not one of them though. I'm very religious and work a secular recovery. This forum is where I come when I need to discuss my secular program.
I think you may get more responses in the Secular 12 steps forum though. BTW, I do believe in a major greater power, my HP put a great wheel of recovery in motion for me. Its up to me to make use it.
I think you may get more responses in the Secular 12 steps forum though. BTW, I do believe in a major greater power, my HP put a great wheel of recovery in motion for me. Its up to me to make use it.
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Hey all! I have not been about as we are buying a house and WOW that is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more work than I ever knew! It is sooo freaking cool though! LOL
This is a FABULOUS thread and I thank you for posting this one!
I too am religious, but my beliefs are that God helps those who help themselves. My God is not loving me conditionally. Thus if I relapse, I have not lost connection with him/her/it. I do not have a relationship with him/her/it based on whether I stay clean or not. If I stay clean today it is because I chose to do so and not because God or whatever sat on me and did it for me. If I use it is not because God has forsaken me, it is because I chose to do something really stupid considering my history of more than one is not enough! LOL I have always had faith and though it changes and grows I believe my divine power had no hand in my not getting in trouble in my bad behaviors. I think that my divine being is a bit too busy to micromanage the lives of every person screwing up in the world as that is ALLLLLL of us at one time or another! LOL
I work on sobriety through positive focus. I am powerful and work on increasing my power to choose right from wrong and habitually choosing to do right makes the bad habits fade with time. I also find that the less I focus on recovery stuff and the more I focus on life, the more my life becomes "normal." When I was living in that recovery mentality I was focusing on not getting high and the brain not recognizing "not's" was focusing on getting high. I was living in fear of it and living in the problem to be living in a recovery focus. To focus on positives and what I want has eliminated that fight.
This is just my perspective though and I realize that we are all individuals. What works for me is a rational approach. There is no mystery or ****** medicine... no magic. Just a simple choice...
My faith is unshaken and is personal to me.
Cool thread! Thank you!
T
This is a FABULOUS thread and I thank you for posting this one!
I too am religious, but my beliefs are that God helps those who help themselves. My God is not loving me conditionally. Thus if I relapse, I have not lost connection with him/her/it. I do not have a relationship with him/her/it based on whether I stay clean or not. If I stay clean today it is because I chose to do so and not because God or whatever sat on me and did it for me. If I use it is not because God has forsaken me, it is because I chose to do something really stupid considering my history of more than one is not enough! LOL I have always had faith and though it changes and grows I believe my divine power had no hand in my not getting in trouble in my bad behaviors. I think that my divine being is a bit too busy to micromanage the lives of every person screwing up in the world as that is ALLLLLL of us at one time or another! LOL
I work on sobriety through positive focus. I am powerful and work on increasing my power to choose right from wrong and habitually choosing to do right makes the bad habits fade with time. I also find that the less I focus on recovery stuff and the more I focus on life, the more my life becomes "normal." When I was living in that recovery mentality I was focusing on not getting high and the brain not recognizing "not's" was focusing on getting high. I was living in fear of it and living in the problem to be living in a recovery focus. To focus on positives and what I want has eliminated that fight.
This is just my perspective though and I realize that we are all individuals. What works for me is a rational approach. There is no mystery or ****** medicine... no magic. Just a simple choice...
My faith is unshaken and is personal to me.
Cool thread! Thank you!
T
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Originally Posted by Thinkingabit 
Hey all! I have not been about as we are buying a house and WOW that is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more work than I ever knew! It is sooo freaking cool though! LOL
Next thing I know you'll be using the fact you are moving furniture in and the lack of internet access as a reason not to post. Don't you have priorities? Leaving us for a bit just to buy a house ... sheeesh
/Sarcasm off
This is a FABULOUS thread and I thank you for posting this one!
I too am religious, but my beliefs are that God helps those who help themselves. My God is not loving me conditionally. Thus if I relapse, I have not lost connection with him/her/it. I do not have a relationship with him/her/it based on whether I stay clean or not. If I stay clean today it is because I chose to do so and not because God or whatever sat on me and did it for me. If I use it is not because God has forsaken me, it is because I chose to do something really stupid considering my history of more than one is not enough! LOL I have always had faith and though it changes and grows I believe my divine power had no hand in my not getting in trouble in my bad behaviors. I think that my divine being is a bit too busy to micromanage the lives of every person screwing up in the world as that is ALLLLLL of us at one time or another! LOL
I work on sobriety through positive focus. I am powerful and work on increasing my power to choose right from wrong and habitually choosing to do right makes the bad habits fade with time. I also find that the less I focus on recovery stuff and the more I focus on life, the more my life becomes "normal." When I was living in that recovery mentality I was focusing on not getting high and the brain not recognizing "not's" was focusing on getting high. I was living in fear of it and living in the problem to be living in a recovery focus. To focus on positives and what I want has eliminated that fight.
Cool thread! Thank you!
T
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