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Originally Posted by Derringer 
I had that reaction to the "powerless" thing too.
Left my first meeting age 25 thinking what a load of bollocks.
After 7 years of increasingly desperate attempts to moderate, realised there was no cheese down that tunnel and spent the next 3 years trying to stop and stay stopped ... It got worse 😣
I went back to AA, saw powerless and thought "I know what that means now"
Admitting powerlessness isn't just something to say, it's an experience.
Left my first meeting age 25 thinking what a load of bollocks.
After 7 years of increasingly desperate attempts to moderate, realised there was no cheese down that tunnel and spent the next 3 years trying to stop and stay stopped ... It got worse 😣
I went back to AA, saw powerless and thought "I know what that means now"
Admitting powerlessness isn't just something to say, it's an experience.
I hope it works out for you.
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AVRT = Addictive Voice Recognition Technique
Do a web search for "AVRT crash course" to get the gist of it, and also learn about the book written by Jack Trimpey.
Here's a thread to introduce you to the concept here on SR:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ml#post6851332 (AVRT Explained (long))
And here is the beginning of an epic discussion of this very simple technique:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ml#post3067313 (Addictive Voice Recognition Technique (AVRT) Discussion)
I find AA and AVRT to be compatible, but I'm kind of weird that way.
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Do a web search for "AVRT crash course" to get the gist of it, and also learn about the book written by Jack Trimpey.
Here's a thread to introduce you to the concept here on SR:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ml#post6851332 (AVRT Explained (long))
And here is the beginning of an epic discussion of this very simple technique:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ml#post3067313 (Addictive Voice Recognition Technique (AVRT) Discussion)
I find AA and AVRT to be compatible, but I'm kind of weird that way.
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Fishkiller - this is what you wrote on my 12 years sober thread:
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
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Originally Posted by fishkiller
Yeah I don't care how many days it's been or will be. I just don't want to drink again, ever.
Sitting here this morning fighting what y'all call the AV.
Stupid thoughts about things and scenarios that may or may not happen.
Before I would just wonder why I am thinking about this **** when it isn't real. The AV makes perfect sense.
It's telling me right now, "why bother? you probably won't make it anyway so stop torturing yourself"
"What are you going to do in this situation?"
"What about this?" "what about that?"
Sitting here this morning fighting what y'all call the AV.
Stupid thoughts about things and scenarios that may or may not happen.
Before I would just wonder why I am thinking about this **** when it isn't real. The AV makes perfect sense.
It's telling me right now, "why bother? you probably won't make it anyway so stop torturing yourself"
"What are you going to do in this situation?"
"What about this?" "what about that?"
The short answer is it all works out.
I had to make a lot of changes - but I don't regret them.
I'm happier now than I gave ever been, I am more productive, more engaged with the people I love, and I'm not ashamed to look myself in the eyes in the mirror anymore.
Oddly enough I fear telling people I am quitting.
Everyone I know is aware of my taste for alcohol and probably think I am hopeless and will drink till I die. So everyone, especially my parents, will probably be happy about it.
I think it is more of a fear of failure and letting them down if I don't make it. Which the more I think about it that is the AV again.
Damn she is a persistent b
Everyone I know is aware of my taste for alcohol and probably think I am hopeless and will drink till I die. So everyone, especially my parents, will probably be happy about it.
I think it is more of a fear of failure and letting them down if I don't make it. Which the more I think about it that is the AV again.
Damn she is a persistent b
I decided in change and change it was.
I lost a lot of drinking buddies. They just stopped calling and altho that hurt, it is what it is. The only real glue we had was a shard addiction.
Most of my real friends, even the hard drinking ones, supported me cos they were seriously worried I was gonna die.
Outside of them, the plain truth is noone really cared if I was drinking or not.
I had these long detailed mental essays prepared on why I stopped drinking and peoples eyes would glaze over...lol
I spent all day yesterday and have been here since 7am reading and I feel better about this forum than any others I've been on.
Someone asked about my plan and if AA was an option.
I really do not like the thought I am powerless over anything which seems to be a core of AA, admitting you are powerless over alcohol.
This has always been an issue for me with AA. I am not knocking it in anyway it just doesn't fit my personality I guess you could say.
While reading earlier I stumbled upon a post about AVRT, not sure exactly what it stands for yet but it really hit me.
This is more my style, look at it and punch it in the face.
So for now my plan is to study up on AVRT and work it.
Thanks for posting in my thread
I really appreciate everyone's time
I really do not like the thought I am powerless over anything which seems to be a core of AA, admitting you are powerless over alcohol.
This has always been an issue for me with AA. I am not knocking it in anyway it just doesn't fit my personality I guess you could say.
While reading earlier I stumbled upon a post about AVRT, not sure exactly what it stands for yet but it really hit me.
This is more my style, look at it and punch it in the face.
So for now my plan is to study up on AVRT and work it.
Thanks for posting in my thread
I really appreciate everyone's time
Glad to have you aboard!
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Originally Posted by Hevyn
Fishkiller - this is what you wrote on my 12 years sober thread:
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
I kinda forgot I wrote that. I was sober too.
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Originally Posted by Dee74
Everyone of us has worried about our future as a sober person and how we'll do this or that.
The short answer is it all works out.
I had to make a lot of changes - but I don't regret them.
I'm happier now than I gave ever been, I am more productive, more engaged with the people I love, and I'm not ashamed to look myself in the eyes in the mirror anymore.
You can tell them all or tell noone. I don't think its as big a determinant as we think.
I decided in change and change it was.
I lost a lot of drinking buddies. They just stopped calling and altho that hurt, it is what it is. The only real glue we had was a shard addiction.
Most of my real friends, even the hard drinking ones, supported me cos they were seriously worried I was gonna die.
Outside of them, the plain truth is noone really cared if I was drinking or not.
I had these long detailed mental essays prepared on why I stopped drinking and peoples eyes would glaze over...lol
I felt that way too. I stayed
I'm not in any group or follow any one method, so whatever works for you is great
Glad to have you aboard!
D
The short answer is it all works out.
I had to make a lot of changes - but I don't regret them.
I'm happier now than I gave ever been, I am more productive, more engaged with the people I love, and I'm not ashamed to look myself in the eyes in the mirror anymore.
You can tell them all or tell noone. I don't think its as big a determinant as we think.
I decided in change and change it was.
I lost a lot of drinking buddies. They just stopped calling and altho that hurt, it is what it is. The only real glue we had was a shard addiction.
Most of my real friends, even the hard drinking ones, supported me cos they were seriously worried I was gonna die.
Outside of them, the plain truth is noone really cared if I was drinking or not.
I had these long detailed mental essays prepared on why I stopped drinking and peoples eyes would glaze over...lol
I felt that way too. I stayed
I'm not in any group or follow any one method, so whatever works for you is great
Glad to have you aboard!
D
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Joining a class is a great idea. When I first came here I thought the "class" thing was a goofy idea, but I joined and I can safely say I would not have been able to remain sober without joining the class. I strongly recommend it.
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FK, I don't know where you are, but google a SMART recovery meeting near you. Less intense than AA but very helpful in understanding what's going on in our brains. Stands for Self Management and Recovery Training. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Outonthetiles
Joining a class is a great idea. When I first came here I thought the "class" thing was a goofy idea, but I joined and I can safely say I would not have been able to remain sober without joining the class. I strongly recommend it.
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Originally Posted by FitNonDrinker
FK, I don't know where you are, but google a SMART recovery meeting near you. Less intense than AA but very helpful in understanding what's going on in our brains. Stands for Self Management and Recovery Training. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Obladi
While you're at it, you can also look for Refuge Recovery or Dharma Recovery (same thing, basically). I like to explore all of it!
I am up for exploring all options.
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Originally Posted by Hevyn
Fishkiller - this is what you wrote on my 12 years sober thread:
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
"Thanks for posting
I am where you were.
I hope to be where you are one day."
You're going to do it! You're fed up and ready to stop this soul stealing habit. We don't need it & never did. You can and will get free.
I am honored to have posted in your 16 year sober thread recently!
You were right! I've done it for 4 years.
If it wasn't for you and the rest of SR I wouldn't have made it. I know this because every time I felt it was too much or got lost, etc all I had to do was post and trust and I got through whatever it was.
I still do this today. I will always do this.
This thread literally changed my life.
I thank you ALL!
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Big Congrats
4 year Fish years free from the dastardly drink my buddy.
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I'm with you with the AVRT. I believe being here at SR, posting, learning, conversing with my peers with a plan of action, I feel hopeful about my future. Addiction the soul theft is also the dream squasher.
4 year Fish years free from the dastardly drink my buddy
.Ocean theme just for a big game fisher
I'm with you with the AVRT. I believe being here at SR, posting, learning, conversing with my peers with a plan of action, I feel hopeful about my future. Addiction the soul theft is also the dream squasher.
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OMG! What else is still lurking in the archives? But it makes for a good complete success story. Attitude is the part of your personality that jumps out at me. Not accepting anything less than total rewarding sobriety can carry a guy a long way. You set an example. Too bad you can't make money at this. You would be in the Fortune 500.
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