I Prefer Compassion with my "Whine"
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Flame Bait:
Flame baiting is setting up a situation for you to get flamed usually on a forum. You don't actually flame, but make it hard to respond without flaming. Its setting people up on the internet so they look like the bad guy. Generally Looked down upon .
IMO that's what you basically did Bam. You made the thread,now deal with it. Peace.
Flame baiting is setting up a situation for you to get flamed usually on a forum. You don't actually flame, but make it hard to respond without flaming. Its setting people up on the internet so they look like the bad guy. Generally Looked down upon .
IMO that's what you basically did Bam. You made the thread,now deal with it. Peace.
How i get that across is AS important as what i want to get across.
If i am curt...judgemental...rude...border line name calling or just make sweeping judgements that person will probably reject what im trying to say.
I know i would....and have...
So for me its AS important to "how you say it".....as well as what you say.
I think sometimes.....important..messages are lost because of how the post is written.
Some people respond to the 2 by 4 to the head and some people don't, so if a persons approach is to use the 2 by 4 on people because it worked for them then they are assuming everyone is like them .....and they are not.
(I don't mean you do that Taz, I am just using the 2 by 4 metaphor you used ).
I think it is Lbad who has the sig line..."say what you mean and mean what you say, just don't say it mean".
Some just love to judge others and tell them when they are wrong, I guess it makes them feel superior. I really don't think there are many people here who do that though. Most people are trying to help.
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I am trying to learn to be more tolerant and that is why I read this thread.
Almost everyone that posted here has helped me with that as I read your posts and figured out my reactions to them.
I want to thank you all for helping in my quest.
Almost everyone that posted here has helped me with that as I read your posts and figured out my reactions to them.
I want to thank you all for helping in my quest.
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I can sorta see both sides of this. There are purists on both sides though who can be negative and closed minded and turn me off.
As alcoholics or addicts there are certain things that we need to accept and go along with. True. But if someone needs special help and treatment with mental health issues to feel happy in recovery then that's fine. It's supposed to be part genetic/biological and part environmental, isn't it?
As alcoholics or addicts there are certain things that we need to accept and go along with. True. But if someone needs special help and treatment with mental health issues to feel happy in recovery then that's fine. It's supposed to be part genetic/biological and part environmental, isn't it?
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I can sorta see both sides of this. There are purists on both sides though who can be negative and closed minded and turn me off.
As alcoholics or addicts there are certain things that we need to accept and go along with. True. But if someone needs special help and treatment with mental health issues to feel happy in recovery then that's fine. It's supposed to be part genetic/biological and part environmental, isn't it?
As alcoholics or addicts there are certain things that we need to accept and go along with. True. But if someone needs special help and treatment with mental health issues to feel happy in recovery then that's fine. It's supposed to be part genetic/biological and part environmental, isn't it?
BTW, I am just speaking for myself in this post - not implying that Bam is an HSP.
Last edited by Katie09; 03-25-2009 at 08:04 AM. Reason: Clarify
There are purists on both sides though who can be negative and closed minded and turn me off.
My head was very dense when I was drinking and actually my skull became thicker in early sobriety, I went through a stage where I thought I knew it all because I had been sober a month or 2, in reality I still had no idea how to stay sober long term....... & to be honest even at 2 1/2 years sober I still have a lot to learn which is one of the very reasons I try and do as those with MANY years of sobriety do.
I have learned a great deal about getting and staying sober, but I still have a lot to learn, I have heard the old timers say that when they start thinking they know it all they are getting close to a drink.
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Flame Bait:
Flame baiting is setting up a situation for you to get flamed usually on a forum. You don't actually flame, but make it hard to respond without flaming. Its setting people up on the internet so they look like the bad guy. Generally Looked down upon .
IMO that's what you basically did Bam. You made the thread,now deal with it. Peace.
Flame baiting is setting up a situation for you to get flamed usually on a forum. You don't actually flame, but make it hard to respond without flaming. Its setting people up on the internet so they look like the bad guy. Generally Looked down upon .
IMO that's what you basically did Bam. You made the thread,now deal with it. Peace.
I have tried to not flame anyone in this thread and to remain calm in the face of many posts I found to be offensive (and do my best to be compassionate). I have ignored some, as the ignore button is not my style. There was a time on the Net when I too had thin skin, but the more one is criticized, the thicker one's skin grows. Having said this, I am an HSP and to tend to advocate for those in the minority, especially when I find myself in the minority, as I have on several threads. This is why I've moved away from Newcomers. I end up getting all riled up, even though I do try to remain calm.
On this note, I am out of this thread (for now at least) as it's unhealthy for me to read what I perceive to be posts that are less than helpful. And, perception IS my reality, as each person's perception IS their reality.
Katie
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