Class of November 2019 Part 5
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Haha exactly... antioxidants.
I had a bunch of reasons Briansy. The main one was I got tired of not being able to share food with others. Especially as a cook, and with my exH (and now my bf) that was always a struggle for me. My exH had very simple tastes, a meat and potatoes kind of guy, and hated most vegetables, beans, etc., so cooking a meal that we could both eat was like cooking for a vegetarian child. Lol. I would make things like spaghetti in marinara sauce -- not very fulfilling to make or to eat. I got tired of it.
I still eat vegetarian probably 80% of the time, and would never think to cook meat for just myself. If bf is out, I make myself a vegetarian dinner. But I don't think I'd go back to being a strict veggie, because I like the social aspects of sharing food. Especially since I can't share the wine
I had a bunch of reasons Briansy. The main one was I got tired of not being able to share food with others. Especially as a cook, and with my exH (and now my bf) that was always a struggle for me. My exH had very simple tastes, a meat and potatoes kind of guy, and hated most vegetables, beans, etc., so cooking a meal that we could both eat was like cooking for a vegetarian child. Lol. I would make things like spaghetti in marinara sauce -- not very fulfilling to make or to eat. I got tired of it.
I still eat vegetarian probably 80% of the time, and would never think to cook meat for just myself. If bf is out, I make myself a vegetarian dinner. But I don't think I'd go back to being a strict veggie, because I like the social aspects of sharing food. Especially since I can't share the wine
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I'm sorry to see you go FL. We've been through a lot together for several years.
I thought my post might make you reconsider, if I'm honest
After the hell alcohol bought you to, I think you've made the wrong decision, but I wish you well.
I hope I get proved wrong and I hope it works out for you.
Hi SBTS
Here's my take
these threads are for people struggling so sometimes we're going to get active drinkers in them.
Anyone drinking now or not who wants to stop drinking is welcome here.
The community of the threads are strong enough to withstand that, I think.
so - I'll reiterate cos I don't want to lose anyone - if you're drinking but want to stop, you're welcome here. This is your Tribe.
If someone decides they want to try moderation, I think that's a very different thing to trying to stop.
I'd hope anyone trying a run at moderation would consider the effect such a decision might have on the rest of the group and I thank FL for doing that
The rules do say it's inappropriate to promote drinking or drug use here and I think everyone gets why that is.
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I thought my post might make you reconsider, if I'm honest
After the hell alcohol bought you to, I think you've made the wrong decision, but I wish you well.
I hope I get proved wrong and I hope it works out for you.
Originally Posted by soberbythesea 
My understanding was that the rules say we aren't supposed to promote drinking or using on the forum. I thought that the goal here, at least, was supposed to be sobriety, even if we slip sometimes. To say that a shot of aquavit or a bottle of champagne on NYE is good and the person has every intention of continuing on drinking... I dunno. Does that fit here? If so, maybe *I* need to find another space that is more focused on sobriety. I didn't bring this point up the first time because I'm not the moderator here and so I only posted about my personal reaction.
I also care about everyone here and don't want to fight about this, so that will be my last word on the subject. xxoo
I also care about everyone here and don't want to fight about this, so that will be my last word on the subject. xxoo
Here's my take
these threads are for people struggling so sometimes we're going to get active drinkers in them.
Anyone drinking now or not who wants to stop drinking is welcome here.
The community of the threads are strong enough to withstand that, I think.
so - I'll reiterate cos I don't want to lose anyone - if you're drinking but want to stop, you're welcome here. This is your Tribe.
If someone decides they want to try moderation, I think that's a very different thing to trying to stop.
I'd hope anyone trying a run at moderation would consider the effect such a decision might have on the rest of the group and I thank FL for doing that
The rules do say it's inappropriate to promote drinking or drug use here and I think everyone gets why that is.
D
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That was my understanding Dee... that wanting to stop was the defining factor, as opposed to stating the plan is to moderate. Thank you for clarifying
I would never want to turn away an active drinker who wanted to stop... that was me not very long ago and I'm not sure I would have found my way back to sobriety if I hadn't been welcome to post here during that time.
I would never want to turn away an active drinker who wanted to stop... that was me not very long ago and I'm not sure I would have found my way back to sobriety if I hadn't been welcome to post here during that time.
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Sometimes people end up here with all sorts of mental health issues who are not necessarily alcoholics. That can happen.
I completely, 151% agree that moderation is not even in our alphabet.
We need to part company with alcohol (and other drugs) permanently.
Just want to share my point of view so you all know I am on the same page.
s xx
I completely, 151% agree that moderation is not even in our alphabet.
We need to part company with alcohol (and other drugs) permanently.
Just want to share my point of view so you all know I am on the same page.
s xx
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Its early here and that was not an easy post to compose.
The same of course applies to users of other drugs and I forgot about Family and Friends too - you're very welcome here as well, but FFers have always been very good about not posting about their drinking, should they be drinkers.
There a lot of folks here with mental health issues too, I know - but most people still get this is an abstinence promoting space.
I'd love to be able to encompass everyone in the tent but I honestly don't think we can do that because the end aims and the paths getting there are so different.
I don't think the rules are unreasonable.
I never thought you felt otherwise Suze but I'm gonna leave this topic now
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The same of course applies to users of other drugs and I forgot about Family and Friends too - you're very welcome here as well, but FFers have always been very good about not posting about their drinking, should they be drinkers.
There a lot of folks here with mental health issues too, I know - but most people still get this is an abstinence promoting space.
I'd love to be able to encompass everyone in the tent but I honestly don't think we can do that because the end aims and the paths getting there are so different.
I don't think the rules are unreasonable.
I never thought you felt otherwise Suze but I'm gonna leave this topic now
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Love you Suze ❤️
You too Dee ❤️
You two have been the most amazing support to me over the last year and a half on my crazy bumpy ride to sobriety. I can’t even begin to express the depth of my gratitude to you both ❤️
Briansy your food looks absolutely delicious! I’m envious, but also inspired to get my veggie cookbook out of the cupboard.....
Like SBTS I used to be vegetarian for several years, and I was vegan for about 6 months.
As to drinking, I was hiding from myself, I know that now. I thought I was hiding from my life, but my life actually wasn’t bad at all, I was hiding from myself in 1-2 bottles of wine a night. I’ve tried moderating heaps of times. It flat out doesn’t work for me. I’m an all or nothing girl, and I know where “all” got me with drinking, absolutely nowhere except despair. So I’m for nothing, so that I can get somewhere happier. Hmmm that’s made me think....
All got me nowhere but despair.
But none will get me somewhere.
Well now I’m just musing but I know what I’m talking about
❤️You too Dee
❤️You two have been the most amazing support to me over the last year and a half on my crazy bumpy ride to sobriety. I can’t even begin to express the depth of my gratitude to you both ❤️
Briansy your food looks absolutely delicious! I’m envious, but also inspired to get my veggie cookbook out of the cupboard.....
Like SBTS I used to be vegetarian for several years, and I was vegan for about 6 months.
As to drinking, I was hiding from myself, I know that now. I thought I was hiding from my life, but my life actually wasn’t bad at all, I was hiding from myself in 1-2 bottles of wine a night. I’ve tried moderating heaps of times. It flat out doesn’t work for me. I’m an all or nothing girl, and I know where “all” got me with drinking, absolutely nowhere except despair. So I’m for nothing, so that I can get somewhere happier. Hmmm that’s made me think....
All got me nowhere but despair.
But none will get me somewhere.
Well now I’m just musing but I know what I’m talking about
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SBTS I was thinking about your post about vegetarianism, and it’s pretty much exactly why I stopped being vegetarian. When I was single it was a lot easier to be vegetarian. Although there were occasional socially awkward situations that arose..... When I entered a relationship with an almost obligate carnivore lol, it got so hard to maintain being vegetarian. Although I’m certain I’m nowhere near as good a cook as you Or Briansy
And socially it’s also easier, although I generally don’t eat meat when I’m by myself either. At restaurants I generally go for vegetarian options unless they have no decent option (like only a garden salad) but most restaurants these days cater much better for vegetarians than they used to
Or Briansy And socially it’s also easier, although I generally don’t eat meat when I’m by myself either. At restaurants I generally go for vegetarian options unless they have no decent option (like only a garden salad) but most restaurants these days cater much better for vegetarians than they used to
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I have had so much trouble with this...I don't think about being vegetarian per se, but I stopped eating meat. I just did not seem to want or need it. And now I am a twosome I feel the need to make sure that my guy gets the right dietary needs.....if I had my way, I would not ever eat meat again. But I am not sure how I could give up tuna, and that is why I have never officially gone vegetarian. xx
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I also will go for the vegetarian options more often than not in restaurants, unless bf and I are sharing food.
I basically came to the conclusion that there was no reason (for me personally) to be all-or-nothing about it. I think there are many great reasons for being vegetarian, and I actually really enjoy vegetarian food, so it's easy for me to maintain eating mostly vegetarian. That last 20% of my meals that contain meat, I just don't worry too much about it, I figure I am still doing a lot for animals/the planet/my body by skipping it most of the time.
Willow, I was also vegan for 6 months. That was the longest I could sustain that.
Just made it through a 2.5 hour dinner with my bf and his parents where they all drank multiple glasses of wine. For the most part I didn't notice too much. I just got tired toward the end. But it's not like I'm jealous or wish I could drink too.
Bed soon Night all.
I basically came to the conclusion that there was no reason (for me personally) to be all-or-nothing about it. I think there are many great reasons for being vegetarian, and I actually really enjoy vegetarian food, so it's easy for me to maintain eating mostly vegetarian. That last 20% of my meals that contain meat, I just don't worry too much about it, I figure I am still doing a lot for animals/the planet/my body by skipping it most of the time.
Willow, I was also vegan for 6 months. That was the longest I could sustain that.
Just made it through a 2.5 hour dinner with my bf and his parents where they all drank multiple glasses of wine. For the most part I didn't notice too much. I just got tired toward the end. But it's not like I'm jealous or wish I could drink too.
Bed soon
Night all.
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Willow, just to correct one thing: these food pics I post are most definitely prepared by other people! I haven't cooked for years! Thankfully I live in a great neighbourhood in London where everything is within a short walk - including loads of vegan options and a couple of amazing all vegan takeaways and restaurants. Everywhere in London is full of great Vegan options. I'll try and do as much as I can in January because I respect the cause and I know it's good for me too. Plus my friend Leonie is Vegan and she is always sending me videos of suffering animals! But it's good to have you back posting regularly
Anyway, morning all. 6.10 here, trying to get acclimated to getting up early for work again. My alarm goes off in 20 minutes. Feels so good waking up with a clear head and clear conscience.
SBTS, you have a very active life in terms of socialising and what not - at some stage I am going to need to come out of my cave and build a social circle myself, but I know my natural state is introversion so it's hard.
Have a great Friday, all!
Anyway, morning all. 6.10 here, trying to get acclimated to getting up early for work again. My alarm goes off in 20 minutes. Feels so good waking up with a clear head and clear conscience.
SBTS, you have a very active life in terms of socialising and what not - at some stage I am going to need to come out of my cave and build a social circle myself, but I know my natural state is introversion so it's hard.
Have a great Friday, all!
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Haha I did think you’d cooked them Briansy
I don’t eat out much, mostly just simple fare at home.
We live out in the sticks so there’s not many options to eat out under 30 or 40km drive away except the local pub. And I’m trying to avoid it a bit at the moment.
I don’t eat out much, mostly just simple fare at home.
We live out in the sticks so there’s not many options to eat out under 30 or 40km drive away except the local pub. And I’m trying to avoid it a bit at the moment.
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