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Old 09-13-2018, 12:17 AM
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JustTony - Thanks for the response - I just meant to join a class although I'd much prefer to be able to teach Yoga! I'd be starting as a beginner but my anxiety is too high at the moment to face getting there.
My work is all Business Development and Marketing so I'm home all day at my screen, half the problem I believe.

Ayers - Thanks for the welcome, love the positivity I can feel from your post. Your words are true, making life changing decisions when lacking such clarity right now is too much too soon. The main problem I have is I never stay sober for long enough to reach making those steps like being able to try Yoga or go running or swimming with a friend. I plan it then cancel, either because I've fallen off the wagon and I'm drunk or because I'm too early in the sober stages to face it with the withdrawal anxiety and lack of confidence which I struggle with immensely in the first couple of weeks.

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Kit, just hang on today .... post if you need...... read, read, read. Don't worry about tomorrow or falling off the wagon , because TODAY you are not going to. We will deal with tomorrow when it arrives.

Have a wonderful day and be kind to yourself . Thinking of you
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I promise this is me for today .... ( fingers crossed behind my back)
Just received a message on m phone and wanted to share with you- seeing as there are quite a few of us on this forum who aren't youngsters any more .

As I've aged, I've become kinder to, and less critical of myself.
I've become my own friend.

I have seen too many dear friends leave this world too soon;
before they understood the great freedom that comes with aging.

Whose business is it if I choose to read, or play on the computer until 4 am?
I will dance with myself to those wonderful tunes of the 60's, 70's & 80's and if I, at the same time, wish to weep over a lost love ... I will.

I will walk the beach in a swimsuit that is stretched over a bulging body, or deemed inappropriate for my age
and dive into the waves with abandon, if I choose, despite the pitying glances from the jet-set. They , too, will get old.

I know I am sometimes forgetful.
But then again, some of life is just as well forgotten, and eventually
we remember the most important things.

Sure , over the years my heart has been broken. How can your heart not break when you lose a loved one or when a child suffers, or when someone's beloved pet get's hit by a car?
But broken hearts are what give us strength, and understanding, and compassion.
A heart never broken , is pristine, and sterile and will never know the joy of being imperfect.

I am so blessed to have lived enough to have my hair turning grey, and to have my youthful laughs be forever etched into grooves on my face.
So many have never laughed, and too many have died before their hair could turn silver.

As you get older it is easier to be positive. You care less about what other people think. I don't question myself anymore.
I've even earned the right to be wrong.

I like being older. It has set me free.
I like the person I have become. I am not going to live forever, but while I am still here, I will not waste time lamenting what could have been, or worrying about what will be.
And I shall eat dessert every single day if I feel like it


And : David Bowie said:
"Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been"
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Old 09-13-2018, 02:29 AM
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I promise this is me for today .... ( fingers crossed behind my back)
Just received a message on m phone and wanted to share with you- seeing as there are quite a few of us on this forum who aren't youngsters any more .

As I've aged, I've become kinder to, and less critical of myself.
I've become my own friend.

I have seen too many dear friends leave this world too soon;
before they understood the great freedom that comes with aging.

Whose business is it if I choose to read, or play on the computer until 4 am?
I will dance with myself to those wonderful tunes of the 60's, 70's & 80's and if I, at the same time, wish to weep over a lost love ... I will.

I will walk the beach in a swimsuit that is stretched over a bulging body, or deemed inappropriate for my age
and dive into the waves with abandon, if I choose, despite the pitying glances from the jet-set. They , too, will get old.

I know I am sometimes forgetful.
But then again, some of life is just as well forgotten, and eventually
we remember the most important things.

Sure , over the years my heart has been broken. How can your heart not break when you lose a loved one or when a child suffers, or when someone's beloved pet get's hit by a car?
But broken hearts are what give us strength, and understanding, and compassion.
A heart never broken , is pristine, and sterile and will never know the joy of being imperfect.

I am so blessed to have lived enough to have my hair turning grey, and to have my youthful laughs be forever etched into grooves on my face.
So many have never laughed, and too many have died before their hair could turn silver.

As you get older it is easier to be positive. You care less about what other people think. I don't question myself anymore.
I've even earned the right to be wrong.

I like being older. It has set me free.
I like the person I have become. I am not going to live forever, but while I am still here, I will not waste time lamenting what could have been, or worrying about what will be.
And I shall eat dessert every single day if I feel like it


And : David Bowie said:
"Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been"
I love this Ayers, especially love the last line, I have definitely felt that. I remember the freedom of learning happiness and not being such a grouch and wishing I had learnt it earlier in life and not wasted so many years. I then realised that that was who I was as a product of my upbringing, and who I as a human, with little understanding at a young age, choose to be and that I can not deny that part of who I am but only embrace it, as it has made me who I am today. The same that I need to embrace my decisions in life from a greater understanding, even if they haven't been the best and not shun them, as to do so would be to shun myself.
I have turned 40 this year and feel a huge shift inside my being, it's almost like stepping from immaturity into something else, I will call it a sense of maturity. I feel this thing called age even if I am still young.
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Reading over all the posts, it seems that yesterday was a tough one for so many of us.

Red, I wish you well with the big gathering. I'm not a big fan of lying, but I have on occasion developed a "migraine" to miss out on a drinking gala if I just don't quite trust myself to make it through. Staying sober is just too important to risk, IMHO.

Kit, isolation is pretty difficult, as several of us have posted! I've joined a gym, started volunteering, and reached out to some new acquaintances for dinner or a movie. It's a little cliché, but seems to be working. Teach that yoga class!

Ayres and Mike, what lovely stories! Thank you so much for sharing. I feel like I know you so much better now.

Alice, I'm so happy you made it through your rough day and night. I hope the pain issue is resolved, but bravo for refusing to give into the AV! You've got this!

Myself. I'm a little surprised to say that yesterday was the first day where I haven't experienced even one craving. AND, best of all, I felt this overwhelming sense of well being and happiness. I know that might not last, maybe not even through today, but it really gave my motivation a big kick in the buttkus! I want to hang onto that feeling for as long as I can. Day 17 here.

Happy Thursday to everyone. You are all in my thoughts today, and I will see you tonight!
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Forgot to say, those of you in the path of the hurricane are in my thoughts! I know some have posted from Georgia, and I'm sure others are also from the south-eastern U.S. coastal area. Please stay safe!
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stay safe all those affected.

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Old 09-13-2018, 04:59 AM
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Yes ! I saw it on the news and it is terrible . Please let us know that u r safe !
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:04 AM
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Just echoing the previous posts regarding the hurricane in the US.

Thoughts with you all - Stay safe!

Much Love.

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Old 09-13-2018, 06:34 AM
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Thanks everyone again for the kind words.

ODAATCAT I hope your health is okay. I did cut out all processed foods several years back and it was the most improvement I had seen in my health in years. I have since reintroduced them but try to limit them. I am seriously considering taking a break from caffeine too and see how that makes me feel. Need to mentally prepare for that one because I do love my caffeine!

Kit I am sorry to hear you are feeling isolated and missing your friends. Getting a therapist was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. He changed the way I see the world and myself. And I don’t know where I’d be if I never started seeing him.

Ayers thanks you and I do like to think of myself as a warrior as well! I’ve fought my way out of every hardship I’ve ever been through, and I will continue to endure, or die trying.

Also wishing safety for everyone in the hurricane’s path
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Good morning everyone - just checking in real quick on day 20. I'm sorry I haven't had time to post more, but I have read through all of your posts. Some of your posts have been very touching - thank you for sharing whats going on with you.

I'm doing alright this morning - kind of tired, but not much stress to speak of. Its so much better today than 20 days ago and I really don't want to go back to that.

I also want to say I hope everyone in the Carolinas and nearby stays safe with the hurricane making landfall - I'll be sending good thoughts to your part of the country today.


Kit - I'm sorry you relapsed but very glad you came back and rejoined us - welcome back

Alice and Mike - I'm sorry you're going through rough times. ;( You're in my thoughts.

ODAATCAT - I hope your trip to the Dr goes well too - you're also in my thoughts.

Take care everyone
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:10 AM
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StartingOverNW - Thanks and also I just had a look online for the book you mention 'In the realm of hungry ghosts: close encounters with addiction' by Dr Gabor Mate.

I'm wanting a new book to get into and was wondering about researching a well recommended one on addiction.

I've found the book along with some TED talks he's done online so I'll have a watch of them tonight to keep me occupied.

Anymore recommendations for good reads, I'd love to hear...

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I am sorry to report (more than that, shocked, bewildered and confused to report) that I am drinking today and yesterday.

I don’t really want to talk about it and won’t post on here for a couple of days. Please respect that, I will be back shortly.

I’ve no idea what’s going on, no reason for it and I felt so good. Let me be a cautionary tale, it is easy to relapse and it is really ****
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:34 AM
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Ben123 - Thinking of you and know only too well how easy it is.
Try not to beat yourself up and respect to you for being completely open and honest about it.

Pick yourself up, dust yourself down and start a fresh again.

Here when you're ready to post / share.

Don't be a stranger.

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Thanks kit. When I’ve been sober I’ve been really cross with the people who relapse. That’s not very nice is it? Maybe all my praying to the universe has meant the universe wants to teach me something

I’m so cross. What an idiot. Why why why didn’t I do the things I knew would help me stay sober? I’m inconsolable but have learned from people on here, I’ll be back. And soon.

All of you who read this, don’t have a drink. It’s really crap.

Best arnie voice - I’ll be back
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Continuity

Hi All,

Day 37 here.

Continuity is my word for the day. Up until now my adult life has been a series of sober weeks punctuated by drunk weekends. My experience of this is that my life has felt stuttering. Like any good I do is undone by the weekend of drinking so progress is hard. In fact, spiritually progress feels almost non existent. Since deciding to be sober I have noticed a sense of continuity. It’s as if my weeks have all become connected and I have a sense that as I continue I have a much better chance of progressing to be the person that I want to be, the real me , if you like.

I just wanted to share.

Have a great sober day.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:41 AM
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Hello Dear Augustians,

Day 5 of my holiday and finally starting to relax after the frazzle fest of getting ready to get away.

I am off to read around and catch up with you all. Sorry to have been so lazy about checking in. Hope everyone is ok....

Love to all, Mrs Lazy SP, :
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Thanks again to everyone for their good wishes and encouragement last night.

Ben, unfortunately, I'm on day one again with you. I did drink about 4 shots of vodka yesterday and was rewarded with two hours of sleep. Rewarded is the wrong word. There is no reward in drinking.

I didn't cave because of AV messages. Instead, I made a deliberate conscious choice to drink. I wasn't able to get my medicine yesterday, and I felt that drinking was the only way to get at least a little bit of sleep and diminish the unrelenting pain. I didn't get drunk, didn't crave more, and the people around me didn't notice that I'd had anything. One hopeful thing was that I had a really hard time choking it down. It smelled and tasted disgusting -- nothing like in the past. I have no desire to drink anything else, and I did get my medication today so I should be ok from now on.

For those of you that were curious, the medication I'm on is tramadol. I've been on it for almost a decade. I was put on it because of degenerative disk disease and rheumatoid arthritis pain in my back and knee joints. Back issues run in my family. My uncle, who had the same disease, shot himself in the head seven years ago because he just couldn't live with the pain anymore.

When I first went on it, tramadol was not a scheduled medication and it was widely believed that it was not a dependency causing med. Now that attitude has changed drastically. When I was first put on it, (after consulting with four different professionals including my chiropractor/acupuncturist, psychiatrist, therapist and pain management doctor who all agreed it would be the best thing for me) the pain pendulum was swung far to the side of " we may not be able to cure some conditions, but there is no reason for anyone to live with crippling pain." Now the swing has gone dramatically the other way and people like me are stigmatised as contributing to the so-called "opiate epidemic" in the US as are doctors and health care providers who help pain patients. (Newsflash, DEA: we are NOT the problem.)

Sometimes I feel kind of conflicted about my dependency on this medication. I've tried to come off of it before because of feelings of guilt and shame, but I've never had any luck because of the pain and the horrific withdrawal symptoms. My east coast doctor told me I'd have to be on the medication for the rest of my life and said that was not a big deal. (I went for monthly urine screens to make sure I was taking the prescribed dose and I also had regular liver tests. Everything was always copasetic.) In TX, doctors are far more fearful of losing their licenses and, thus, reluctant to prescribe it.

I've considered going to an addiction specialist who could prescribe suboxone to taper off of the tramadol painlessly, but my doctor says that suboxone is a far more powerful drug, and I've read that many suboxone dependent people actually taper off of that drug using tramadol. Of course, even if I can taper and subdue the withdrawal symptoms, there will still be the pain to cope with.

I just don't know. Does the fact that I'm dependent on this med make me an addict? Is there even any point in stopping drinking if that's so? Do I even belong here? I hope I do. And I hope attitudes about the legitimate use of pain medication in the US will soften eventually and that the sanctity fo the patient-doctor relationship will be upheld. Right now the Human Rights Commission and the ADA are working to change public opinion. The HRC has noted the similarity of the plight of chronic pain patients in the US who are being forced into quick tapers or forced completely off of meds to the treatment of torture victims in third world countries. ("The pain was relentless, I would have done anything to make it stop. I begged for someone to help me or to end my life...") But I guess that's a topic for a whole other support group.

As for drinking, I don't intend to do that anymore. I'm pretty disgusted that I resorted to that last night. I should have just stayed up and paced the floor. I've done that before.

Ben...Kit, Mike ---- let's make it our last day one. I'll be here to support you if you need/want me to. That goes for all of you.

Ayers - thanks for the inspirational post this morning and for re-posting Suze's quote about "forging ourselves from our past mistakes." Love that, Suze.

Anyway...onward, all. I'm limping a little today, but still pushing forward.

And be safe, Southern neighbors!!
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Thinking of you Ben and Alice. I am only on day 5 so the emotional rawness of relapse is still sharp for me.....but it gets easier each day passing as it will I hope for you both.

Alice, I think it is worth seeing a pain specialist and if necessary an addiction specialist. I can completely understand that it must be so hard to stay sober if you are experiencing ongoing physical pain. My thoughts are with you and I hope you wont give yourself a hard time.

ODAATCAT- I am sending you thoughts of health and well-being. May the universe send you positive news about your health.

Ayers, thank you as always for your wonderful posts.

JT, so glad you are here and a heartfelt congratulations on all your sober days....they are staking up quickly now!

Augustonians, may you all stay strong and get through this coming weekend.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:00 PM
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All,

It is just typical that the days when I most want to support in great detail are when my work life has become so unmanageable and hectic again.

So in short:

Ben - I'm so sorry that you drank but I respect your honesty. At least you are not a stinking coward like I am when I drink and then just disappear into hundreds (and I do mean HUNDREDS) of wine bottles over a 6 month period. I hope that you get back to sobriety quickly and we will all be here for you if and when you need us to be.

Alice - I remember having an inflamed spinal disc a few years ago. I remember stopping at every service station on the motorway (every morning) on a 100 mile commute each way and sobbing for 5 minutes until I could carry on the journey. This lasted for about 2 months and was hell on earth. How you live with the permanent consequences of something much worse is beyond me? I hope that you can stay on the meds that you need and that Texas relax their attitude in the way that you hope and suggest that they should.

Kit & Darkling - I know it is early days for you two as well. Please stay strong as you know it gets better relatively quickly.

Suze - How are you? Without your posts there is a deafening silence around the place...

Those in the Eye of the Storm - stay safe. My thoughts are with you.

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