Class of April 2015 Part 9
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Hi, All. I had some rather intense cravings today. Kept playing the tape through to the hangover tomorrow. Just didn't make sense to drink, but that didn't make me feel any better. Instead I went to the store to pick up some muffins (I've had a sweet tooth the last few days) and came home and ate dinner and had two of those and feeling a little better now. Phew. Gonna watch a movie and try and get to bed a little earlier. I've had really disturbing nightmares the last few nights which kind of puts me on edge, but I know they come and go so I've just got to relax.
Hope you all are well!
Hope you all are well!
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Work at 4:00am this morning. Have commitments with the kids until 8:00 tonight. It will be a long day but at least it's my Friday!
None for me today. I need every drop of energy I can muster to get everything done.
Way to hang in against the AV Kim!
Have a great day everyone!
None for me today. I need every drop of energy I can muster to get everything done.
Way to hang in against the AV Kim!
Have a great day everyone!
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Busy day for me too! Just finished a 2 and a half hour round trip to drop my brother and family at the airport and straight into work until 9pm.
Not much time to worry about drinking! My bro had a whiskey last night after dinner and with the early alarm this morning he was struggling with a heavy head. Does anybody else find it hard not to look smug when things like that happen?
It was interesting to read what OMD published yesterday. Do you think we struggle more in recovery because alcohol is such an accepted part of society? That could be right but then again, if you really want something you find it or it finds you. A lot of addicts struggle even when their drug of choice isn't in their face every day. I would totally agree that freedom is in each individual. Feeling happier and happier with my choices
Take care all!
Not much time to worry about drinking! My bro had a whiskey last night after dinner and with the early alarm this morning he was struggling with a heavy head. Does anybody else find it hard not to look smug when things like that happen?
It was interesting to read what OMD published yesterday. Do you think we struggle more in recovery because alcohol is such an accepted part of society? That could be right but then again, if you really want something you find it or it finds you. A lot of addicts struggle even when their drug of choice isn't in their face every day. I would totally agree that freedom is in each individual. Feeling happier and happier with my choices
Take care all!
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OMD...great post. Thank you. I'm one of the lucky ones in that I truly didn't want alcohol any more fairly quick. I don't care if everyone is doing it, if it's free, or if I could be promised no hang over tomorrow. The truth still remains that I would abuse it. Of course, I believe I got those feelings fairly soon due to how far I rode the alcoholism train. I would not want to wish that on anyone.
SG...go get em cowboy!
Swim...good for you! Hopefully you'll wake up today thankful for your decisions. Your AV is kinda like a brat child. It knows that persistency can work and will come out of the blue and surprise you. It will also allow you to feel relaxed, and super happy. Give you a sense that you've got this kicked....just so it could pounce on you when you least expect it. Don't worry....you're not feeding that wolf, so it will die.
Amp...yeah...I do feel smug. My girlfriend drinks once in a while. Sometimes for fun, but usually to deal with very stressful weeks. Ahh huh. And then the next day she's crabby and not very motivated. Yuup. The good news is, I've been slowly making her aware of those things. The last drink she had was almost a month ago! It's no big deal for her. I don't put pressure on her as she is very controlled with her alcohol. But she never realized how it was impacting her mood the next day.
Cauliflower....Christian Rock is really good. I have it programmed in the radio. Always good for a mood lift. Funny story....there's a year round / seasonal camping ground near me that has huge venues come through. They have a country weekend, a rock weekend, a Christian Rock, and Yankee peddler weekends. I know some folks who have year round set ups there. And they all say when the Christian Rock weekend is on, they have to hide and bolt down everything as they steal the most! Lol.
Shelly...I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Well...none for me today.
Have a great sober day.
SG...go get em cowboy!
Swim...good for you! Hopefully you'll wake up today thankful for your decisions. Your AV is kinda like a brat child. It knows that persistency can work and will come out of the blue and surprise you. It will also allow you to feel relaxed, and super happy. Give you a sense that you've got this kicked....just so it could pounce on you when you least expect it. Don't worry....you're not feeding that wolf, so it will die.
Amp...yeah...I do feel smug. My girlfriend drinks once in a while. Sometimes for fun, but usually to deal with very stressful weeks. Ahh huh. And then the next day she's crabby and not very motivated. Yuup. The good news is, I've been slowly making her aware of those things. The last drink she had was almost a month ago! It's no big deal for her. I don't put pressure on her as she is very controlled with her alcohol. But she never realized how it was impacting her mood the next day.
Cauliflower....Christian Rock is really good. I have it programmed in the radio. Always good for a mood lift. Funny story....there's a year round / seasonal camping ground near me that has huge venues come through. They have a country weekend, a rock weekend, a Christian Rock, and Yankee peddler weekends. I know some folks who have year round set ups there. And they all say when the Christian Rock weekend is on, they have to hide and bolt down everything as they steal the most! Lol.
Shelly...I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Well...none for me today.
Have a great sober day.
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Alcohol is everywhere and because it's on top our minds, we see it, and the thoughts go round and round, ultimately stopping at "None for me today." One day, we will stop the thoughts as it will become completely natural to not drink. Happily, it is getting easier and easier for me as each day rolls into the other.
Swim, keep it up and eat your cookies! You are still in early withdrawal and your body is now craving sweets. Also, make sure you are supplementing with Vitamins (vit. B especially), it will help your body with the physical recovery.
Inc, my sister told me that she was hanging with Christians when she was going through her recovery years ago, sadly, she has since started drinking again, but she said that this particular group of people were the most hypocritical and judgmental of any group she has every met. It's like they thought they were holier then thou! Too funny,your story made me laugh. I don't want to offend the Christian faith, as some friends and family are Christians and they are amazing people. I just can't see my aunt pillaging and purging a campsite! lol
I am really quite busy today too. Among other things, I am writing and editing speeches, and it's something that I love love love to do! If it means taking a break from the accounts, then yes, I will write!
PS: Inc, you have a heart of gold - not wanting to leave Shelly out of the conversation
Off and running on this cold, wet and rainy day
Swim, keep it up and eat your cookies! You are still in early withdrawal and your body is now craving sweets. Also, make sure you are supplementing with Vitamins (vit. B especially), it will help your body with the physical recovery.
Inc, my sister told me that she was hanging with Christians when she was going through her recovery years ago, sadly, she has since started drinking again, but she said that this particular group of people were the most hypocritical and judgmental of any group she has every met. It's like they thought they were holier then thou! Too funny,your story made me laugh. I don't want to offend the Christian faith, as some friends and family are Christians and they are amazing people. I just can't see my aunt pillaging and purging a campsite! lol
I am really quite busy today too. Among other things, I am writing and editing speeches, and it's something that I love love love to do! If it means taking a break from the accounts, then yes, I will write!
PS: Inc, you have a heart of gold - not wanting to leave Shelly out of the conversation
Off and running on this cold, wet and rainy day
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Originally Posted by amp123 
My bro had a whiskey last night after dinner and with the early alarm this morning he was struggling with a heavy head. Does anybody else find it hard not to look smug when things like that happen?
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Hi everyone,
Do you have any idea of the number of times I have moderated my drinking in the past? I will tell you - every single day when I woke up (hungover) I had some new strategy that was completely blown by the end of the same day. But all the time I was missing the point - why would I want to moderate in the first place? That's like saying I intend only to slightly chop off my arm today.
Amp, saying you're allergic to alcohol is a nice way of recognising that it has no benefits for you whatsoever and in fact is highly dangerous, which is exactly what alcohol is!
I dont know about being smug, but I am starting to feel genuinely sorry for people I see suffering the effects of alcohol. Weirdly though, since it sends all the wrong messages about alcohol in society, I am thinking about having a no alcohol beer in social situations because I think it might help avoid the inevitable questions. I would quite like people just to see me as someone who doesn't drink, and not someone who doesn't drink because he has a problem. Maybe it is my imagination but I assume that people think it is the latter situation that applies to me.
None for me today. Have a good one
OMD
Do you have any idea of the number of times I have moderated my drinking in the past? I will tell you - every single day when I woke up (hungover) I had some new strategy that was completely blown by the end of the same day. But all the time I was missing the point - why would I want to moderate in the first place? That's like saying I intend only to slightly chop off my arm today.
Amp, saying you're allergic to alcohol is a nice way of recognising that it has no benefits for you whatsoever and in fact is highly dangerous, which is exactly what alcohol is!
I dont know about being smug, but I am starting to feel genuinely sorry for people I see suffering the effects of alcohol. Weirdly though, since it sends all the wrong messages about alcohol in society, I am thinking about having a no alcohol beer in social situations because I think it might help avoid the inevitable questions. I would quite like people just to see me as someone who doesn't drink, and not someone who doesn't drink because he has a problem. Maybe it is my imagination but I assume that people think it is the latter situation that applies to me.
None for me today. Have a good one
OMD
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Screw what people think. Wish I could feel that all the time. Lol...reminds me that I made a joke of it once. I said...eh...I moved on to crack. Once you go crack, you don't go back.
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Yesterday I was chatting with my neighbor and the husband said, "What is happening, you look so thin, you're disappearing." I was taken aback a bit. First of all, I am not too thin - I lost 10 pounds, and with a small frame it really shows, but I am certainly not unhealthy. Anyways, I just blurted out that I quit drinking and taking in less calories. They glanced at each other, and I thought augh, what are they thinking. I know the wife drinks to oblivion, I've witnessed it at every get together, so maybe it was a shared realization that someone else may have a problem? I have told many people that I quit drinking, but it's not something that I thought I would be so open about.
I too, just want people to accept me as a non-drinker in social situations, I certainly don't want to be treated any different. I find people have no idea how to act when they first find out that I don't drink, they initially look uncomfortable. Why is that? Alcoholism is a hard topic to talk about, but it doesn't have to be. It's like mental illness, people just don't want to engage in someone else's personal struggles. I guess it's just something to get used too, over time. But, yes, it's hard to have that, "I don't care what you think" attitude. We are a work in progress.
On a side note, my 9 year old son has no problem telling people I'm an alcoholic and therefor don't drink! It's his pure innocence that pours through. Maybe we just have to adopt the 9 year old way of thinking.
I too, just want people to accept me as a non-drinker in social situations, I certainly don't want to be treated any different. I find people have no idea how to act when they first find out that I don't drink, they initially look uncomfortable. Why is that? Alcoholism is a hard topic to talk about, but it doesn't have to be. It's like mental illness, people just don't want to engage in someone else's personal struggles. I guess it's just something to get used too, over time. But, yes, it's hard to have that, "I don't care what you think" attitude. We are a work in progress.
On a side note, my 9 year old son has no problem telling people I'm an alcoholic and therefor don't drink! It's his pure innocence that pours through. Maybe we just have to adopt the 9 year old way of thinking.
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Originally Posted by OMD
Hi everyone,
Do you have any idea of the number of times I have moderated my drinking in the past? I will tell you - every single day when I woke up (hungover) I had some new strategy that was completely blown by the end of the same day. But all the time I was missing the point - why would I want to moderate in the first place? That's like saying I intend only to slightly chop off my arm today.
Do you have any idea of the number of times I have moderated my drinking in the past? I will tell you - every single day when I woke up (hungover) I had some new strategy that was completely blown by the end of the same day. But all the time I was missing the point - why would I want to moderate in the first place? That's like saying I intend only to slightly chop off my arm today.
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Originally Posted by Cauliflower
Alcohol is everywhere and because it's on top our minds, we see it, and the thoughts go round and round, ultimately stopping at "None for me today." One day, we will stop the thoughts as it will become completely natural to not drink. Happily, it is getting easier and easier for me as each day rolls into the other.
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Originally Posted by OMD
Hi everyone,
I am thinking about having a no alcohol beer in social situations because I think it might help avoid the inevitable questions. I would quite like people just to see me as someone who doesn't drink, and not someone who doesn't drink because he has a problem. Maybe it is my imagination but I assume that people think it is the latter situation that applies to me.
I am thinking about having a no alcohol beer in social situations because I think it might help avoid the inevitable questions. I would quite like people just to see me as someone who doesn't drink, and not someone who doesn't drink because he has a problem. Maybe it is my imagination but I assume that people think it is the latter situation that applies to me.
I totally agree that we should not have to feel defensive because we are not drinking. We are making the responsible choice not drinking. We are the ones not driving intoxicated, waking up hungover and making our livers work overtime trying to keep us alive.
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Originally Posted by Cauliflower
I have tried many times to moderate, it never worked for me! I thought buying a box of wine would be perfect, because it would last longer for someone who only has one glass of wine in the evening. That box never lasted long enough to test out my theory.
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Originally Posted by Cauliflower
I too, just want people to accept me as a non-drinker in social situations, I certainly don't want to be treated any different. I find people have no idea how to act when they first find out that I don't drink, they initially look uncomfortable. Why is that? Alcoholism is a hard topic to talk about, but it doesn't have to be. It's like mental illness, people just don't want to engage in someone else's personal struggles. I guess it's just something to get used too, over time. But, yes, it's hard to have that, "I don't care what you think" attitude. We are a work in progress.
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Originally Posted by Incontrol15
Screw what people think.
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Originally Posted by Incontrol15
Screw what people think. Wish I could feel that all the time. Lol...reminds me that I made a joke of it once. I said...eh...I moved on to crack. Once you go crack, you don't go back.
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Originally Posted by stargazer016
I have not been out in many social situations recently, but I keep finding that many people really don't drink at all or drink very little. Especially at my age, almost everyone has either experienced alcohol issues personally, lives with someone with issues, or know of people whom have struggled. Because I have always surrounded myself with friends who are big drinkers, I never had much experience with non drinkers. It's my drinking friends, who upon learning that I have quit drinking, that realize I have a problem. I think it makes some of them quietly evaluate their own consumption levels.
I totally agree that we should not have to feel defensive because we are not drinking. We are making the responsible choice not drinking. We are the ones not driving intoxicated, waking up hungover and making our livers work overtime trying to keep us alive.
I totally agree that we should not have to feel defensive because we are not drinking. We are making the responsible choice not drinking. We are the ones not driving intoxicated, waking up hungover and making our livers work overtime trying to keep us alive.
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