Either I start drinking again, or ship myself off to the nuthouse
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Originally Posted by DoubleBarrel 
How can you recall what made you quit in the first place?
How will you feel if you return to it?
How will you feel if you return to it?
After 14 months of trying and failing to get my life back on track, I just cannot push any more. You cannot say that ive just sat back and waited for it to happen... There are only so many push ups one can do before collapsing.
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RQ, I don't know what the answer is. I'm no Dr.
I do know I had to do a lot of looking before I found the right Drs to help with my issues.
We have a lot of support open to us in Australia, much more than other countries. If you really believe there's only two choices - drinking or the nuthouse - there's not much incentive there for you to keep looking for help, and that saddens me.
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I do know I had to do a lot of looking before I found the right Drs to help with my issues.
We have a lot of support open to us in Australia, much more than other countries. If you really believe there's only two choices - drinking or the nuthouse - there's not much incentive there for you to keep looking for help, and that saddens me.
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Originally Posted by DoubleBarrel
I'm no expert, and I don't mean this to be condescending, but have you tried total sobriety?
If I took all those things, I think I would feel pretty crazy too.
It takes a long time for the brain to reset after the abuse of addiction.
Sometimes we try too much to fix everything NOW. That's what addicts do. But time can heal.
Nothing but nicotine in that time.
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Originally Posted by Dee74
RQ, I don't know what the answer is. I'm no Dr.
Originally Posted by Dee74
If you really believe there's only two choices - drinking or the nuthouse - there's not much incentive there for you to keep looking for help
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I thought the same thing RQ - that drinking was not the problem. Its fare it was not the ONLY problem. I identify as an addict first and alcoholic second. In fact I see alcohol as one of my addictions on a merry go round of bad things I like to do. I need to get sober but then recovery was a whole separate mountain to climb...I am still climbing, as I don't see an end but the angle of the slope I hope will moderate with time.
What are you doing in recovery if you don't mind my asking? It sort of sounds like you might be in sobriety but not recovery? I would feel the same if this were my circumstances too.
What are you doing in recovery if you don't mind my asking? It sort of sounds like you might be in sobriety but not recovery? I would feel the same if this were my circumstances too.
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somewhere like beyondblue might be a good start?
Get immediate help for depression and anxiety
Get immediate help for depression and anxiety
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Originally Posted by Dee74
somewhere like beyondblue might be a good start?
Get immediate help for depression and anxiety
Get immediate help for depression and anxiety
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Originally Posted by jdooner
I thought the same thing RQ - that drinking was not the problem. Its fare it was not the ONLY problem. I identify as an addict first and alcoholic second. In fact I see alcohol as one of my addictions on a merry go round of bad things I like to do. I need to get sober but then recovery was a whole separate mountain to climb...I am still climbing, as I don't see an end but the angle of the slope I hope will moderate with time.
What are you doing in recovery if you don't mind my asking? It sort of sounds like you might be in sobriety but not recovery? I would feel the same if this were my circumstances too.
What are you doing in recovery if you don't mind my asking? It sort of sounds like you might be in sobriety but not recovery? I would feel the same if this were my circumstances too.
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I don't know that were 'nuthouses' RQ...where I live in the tropics hospitals are pretty much the only place people can get free specialised treatments and consultations.
It may be different south of the border but I don't know
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It may be different south of the border but I don't know
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Originally Posted by RocketQueen
Yep, I can't deal any more. Neither option is particularly appealing, but I have to do something. One seems easier than the other.
it's either or, is it? only two options? you're shooting down all other suggestions, so i won't bother making any more than you've been given...
yes, one option IS easier than the other, though i'm not sure which one might be easier for YOU.
i always went to drinking.
but i'm thinking the nuthouse (that's how you think of it?)has a lot of advantages, advantages that make it easier than disappearing into drinking oblivion.
here are some: your basic needs are taken care of. there's a certain peace in that. you're taken care of, in a certain ways.
there are others, going through similar "can't deal" times.
you won't be drinking, thereby avoiding a huge abyss.
these are just three.
if you feel you only have two options, i'd sure much prefer to see you go for the nuthouse one.
guess what? you might get real help there!
nothing like that available in drinking.
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Originally Posted by fini
RQ,
it's either or, is it? only two options? you're shooting down all other suggestions, so i won't bother making any more than you've been given....
it's either or, is it? only two options? you're shooting down all other suggestions, so i won't bother making any more than you've been given....
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Originally Posted by RocketQueen
Where have I "shot down" anyone's suggestions? Are you referring to the suggestions which I have simply stated that i am currently doing or have given a good go in the past?
you're right; you haven't shot anything down as such. just a sense i got, that you were saying you'd done already what people were suggesting you do. and that those things, things like therapy, counselor, doctor, well, that none of them helps/helped.
seemed pointless to offer more suggestions.
for sure i wasn't wanting to engage in an argument .
sorry; i heard a feeling of exhaustion from and with trying and a feeling of utter defeat. as if there's nothing left to try.
still think the nuthouse option beats the drinking one
take that tougher route and let others help.
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Originally Posted by fini
RQ,
you're right; you haven't shot anything down as such. just a sense i got, that you were saying you'd done already what people were suggesting you do. and that those things, things like therapy, counselor, doctor, well, that none of them helps/helped.
seemed pointless to offer more suggestions.
for sure i wasn't wanting to engage in an argument .
sorry; i heard a feeling of exhaustion from and with trying and a feeling of utter defeat. as if there's nothing left to try.
still think the nuthouse option beats the drinking one
take that tougher route and let others help.
you're right; you haven't shot anything down as such. just a sense i got, that you were saying you'd done already what people were suggesting you do. and that those things, things like therapy, counselor, doctor, well, that none of them helps/helped.
seemed pointless to offer more suggestions.
for sure i wasn't wanting to engage in an argument .
sorry; i heard a feeling of exhaustion from and with trying and a feeling of utter defeat. as if there's nothing left to try.
still think the nuthouse option beats the drinking one
take that tougher route and let others help.
I guess in essence what I'm getting at is that it's a "damned if i do, damned if I don't" scenario. Even the 'experts' are telling me they don't know what to do. What hope do I have? I'm frustrated and in huge amounts of mental pain. I have tried and tried and TRIED to fix things. I have nothing to show for it but more pain. It is never ending. At least I was somewhat happy when I was drinking. That's my train of thought. As you said, nothing I'm doing is working. I just don't want to/can't do it any more.
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At least I was somewhat happy when I was drinking.
I have to say that's not the sense I got from you when you got here.
I don't think drinking is the solution you're trying to convince yourself it is.
I think it will just compound matters and make everything more difficult.
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