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Old 09-05-2014, 04:01 PM
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you mean decline the casino job right?

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Old 09-05-2014, 04:06 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that article edited lol, gosh yes a part of me really is thinking about the casino job still, but its over and done with Freaudian slip
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:14 PM
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you, uh hum, mean the casino job don't you. -- looks like I was a little late.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:42 PM
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This is easy...

Have your friend draw up a contract which prohibits you from drinking and gambling on the job and take the better paying casino gig.

Remember, the obstacle is the path.

Good luck
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:50 PM
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LOL I dunno about anyone else but I had so many of those contracts when I was drinking and I broke every one...

drinking me was not noted for responsibility commitment or moral courage, amaj.

I think there are some things more important than money.

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Old 09-05-2014, 04:57 PM
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Not sure youd have been making any extra once the drink cigarettes and gambling had been added up.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:05 PM
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LOL I dunno about anyone else but I had so many of those contracts when I was drinking and I broke every one...

drinking me was not noted for responsibility commitment or moral courage, amaj.

I think there are some things more important than money.

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Do you honestly think you would have stopped drinking if you were making sandwiches?

Come on, man.

I don't know where you were working but last time I worked in a casino they took our driver's license when we came in at the security desk, had us sign a discloser so that we were fully aware of the consequences if we violated the rules, and wouldn't give us our id's back until we left the building. Of course, eyes in the sky were everywhere. I didn't even think twice about drinking and this was before I stopped altogether.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:07 PM
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Considering the other day when you were chatting to your dad, having a minimum wage job is still a huge step forward, if the casino job hadn't of come around the sandwich job would have been fantastic news!!

So it can still be fantastic news, and you get to put YOU first in the decision!!
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:11 PM
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I would take the lower paying job and stay sober.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:15 PM
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I think I'd have had a better chance making sandwiches than working in a casino yeah

I learned to pace myself in early recovery. I had to.

Time and again I bit off more than I could chew and went back to drinking.

I needed clear distance between who I had been and who I wanted to be.

Now I can go anywhere or do anything...but I had to work up to that, and that took a while.

Your experience was obviously different.

That's what this place is all about, yeah?

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Do you honestly think you would have stopped drinking if you were making sandwiches?

Come on, man.

I don't know where you were working but last time I worked in a casino they took our driver's license when we came in at the security desk, had us sign a discloser so that we were fully aware of the consequences if we violated the rules, and wouldn't give us our id's back until we left the building. Of course, eyes in the sky were everywhere. I didn't even think twice about drinking and this was before I stopped altogether.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aborkie View Post
I would take the lower paying job and stay sober.
You honestly think it will be easier to stay sober with a lower paying job??

Really?

Can't you people see that there are ditches on both sides of the road?
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:21 PM
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For what its worth I know TDG needs a job but tbh I think he could do with more TDG time he's coming along in leaps n bounds don't think we should be doing the 100m in early recovery

TDG my advice is have another conversation with your father explain that your really trying but to stay sober your going to need time to recover properly
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:34 PM
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I think I'd have had a better chance making sandwiches than working in a casino yeah

I learned to pace myself in early recovery. I had to.

Time and again I bit off more than I could chew and went back to drinking.

I needed clear distance between who I had been and who I wanted to be.

Now I can go anywhere or do anything...but I had to work up to that, and that took a while.

Your experience was obviously different.

That's what this place is all about, yeah?

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I respectfully disagree.

Over time, working longer and harder for less money creates more stress and temptation, not less.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:38 PM
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yeah, I get your argument amaj.
We all do.

One vote for the casino.

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Old 09-05-2014, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Amajorityofone View Post
Can't you people see that there are ditches on both sides of the road?
Of course there are hurdles to maintain Sobriety, regardless of job type!!

But I think things would be a bit easier if I'm not seeing alcohol everyday, 40hrs a week, being served at a casino bar, a part of addiction can be dealt with by being out of sight, especially in early Sobriety!!
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleknight View Post
Of course there are hurdles to maintain Sobriety, regardless of job type!!

But I think things would be a bit easier if I'm not seeing alcohol everyday, 40hrs a week, being served at a casino bar, a part of addiction can be dealt with by being out of sight, especially in early Sobriety!!
I work in a bar, casino or social environment that serves alcohol 3-4 nights a week and I've banked $120,000 in the two years that I stopped drinking and doing drugs. And I don't smoke cigarettes or gamble either. Thus, you, Sir, and everyone else who thinks so, are deluding yourselves if you believe this man cannot succeed under adverse conditions.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

There.
I said it.
Somebody had to say it.

I'm taking a break from this place.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Amajorityofone View Post
Thus, you, Sir, and everyone else who thinks so, are deluding yourselves if you believe this man cannot succeed under adverse conditions.
When did I say he couldn't succeed? you're reading way too much into things, we were given 2 options to vote on, neither are doomed to failure, but both are also not guaranteed of success, Sobriety as I mentioned has a lot more to it than simply job choice!!

I voted on what may have it's advantages, as have you, we made a black/white choice, but of course Sobriety has plenty of shades of grey!!
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I honestly don't know if I took the position if I could stay away from the 2 biggies for me gambling and alcohol, but I honestly don't know if I wouldn't be able to because I haven't tried.
Trust your gut on this one TDG - your sobriety is new and fragile, don't take a job that puts you in a likely relapse situation. Whatever additional money you might make from the casino job would be gone in hours if you started gambling. Plus, if you are anything like me, once the floodgates open everything goes out the window more or less simultaneously, and your chemical sobriety would likely be the next shoe to drop.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:21 PM
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Amajorityofone, you have excellent posts but you are also very far along in your recovery. If you ever walked around casinos it's pretty easy to see how devastating gambling can be - not even to mention drinking.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:24 PM
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Dg - the casino job is the better job, but if you start drinking and gambling it would be a nightmare. I would personally take the sandwich job in early recovery, but honestly this is only a decision you can make.
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