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Old 01-09-2014, 08:02 AM
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I've been thinking about things as I taper down and await my doctor appt on January 14th.

I've been drinking for 35 years and if I now detox on benzodiazepines, and live through this all, then I'm addicted to Valium or whatever. Uh.

I'm just scared to hell. Already.............
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Have an honest chat with your doctor about your concerns - i'm sure s/he can sort something out
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I've detoxed off alcohol like 5 or 6 times on benzos and had no addiction to them whatsoever. And I was instructed by doctor to take quite a bit of them. It wasn't used to replace alcohol. It just up-regulates your GABA receptors the same way alcohol does while your body detoxifies from alcohol. Usually the goal is to only use them a short amount of time.
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and I've been addicted to all kinds of crap. Benzos didn't make me feel weird at all.

the weirdest part of all of it was being sober after 5:00 P.M.
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Thanks Skye2, you guys are the best. I'm anxious for my appt.


Thanks Justin. I've been doing some reading and I can't believe the amount of librium/valium they may be giving me. It's like you could o'd on that amount. Please don't laugh at me. I managed to drink lots of booze but can't imagine taking so much benzo. What will I do, sleep finally? lol.

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Also, I keep reading the initials AV. What does it stand for? Alcohol? What?
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I slept like a baby on it. I took like 275mg one day. It was doctor ordered.
My feet and hands got really cold while taking it.

I drank one day during a benzo detox (just shows how bad addiction is)
Anyway, I almost died because benzos and alcohol share cross tolerance. In other words I was basically double drunk. Please dont make that mistake.

Almost stopped breathing.
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I've been doing some reading and I can't believe the amount of librium/valium they may be giving me. It's like you could o'd on that amount. Please don't laugh at me. I managed to drink lots of booze but can't imagine taking so much benzo. What will I do, sleep finally? lol.

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No one is laughing at you at all, far from it. Glad you are seeking help. Take what you read on the internet with a grain of salt though in regards to medicine, what you read there and what actually happens at the doctors office can be 2 completely different things. My last detox ( stupidly started on my own ) I was given a single dose of Librium at the ER ( after I thought I was having a heart attack ) and the only prescriptions they gave me after I left was for antacid for acid reflux like symptoms.
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Scott is totally right. And I did the exact same thing Scott did. Went to ER with heart attack symptoms, was given IV Librium, stayed for a few hours and went home. Now that I've been with a doctor its been oral form.
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Originally Posted by justinJustQuit View Post
I've detoxed off alcohol like 5 or 6 times on benzos and had no addiction to them whatsoever. And I was instructed by doctor to take quite a bit of them. It wasn't used to replace alcohol. It just up-regulates your GABA receptors the same way alcohol does while your body detoxifies from alcohol. Usually the goal is to only use them a short amount of time.
Could you explain the GABA to me simpler?
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I slept like a baby on it. I took like 275mg one day. It was doctor ordered.
My feet and hands got really cold while taking it.

I drank one day during a benzo detox (just shows how bad addiction is)
Anyway, I almost died because benzos and alcohol share cross tolerance. In other words I was basically double drunk. Please dont make that mistake.

Almost stopped breathing.

Won't 275 mg kill a person? I've had only uppers of 20 mg before an MRI. Of course I only felt tired and relaxed but did fall asleep in the tube for a little spell. No pun intended on that word.

You were at home to drink on the benzos then?
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Thanks Soberhawk. Is that your pup?
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Or just your avatar? I get it either way. Hope it's your pup and not a drowning.
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After what you guys are telling me, I think I'm definitely not doing this all on my own again.

I can't do a 30 day in patient setting though with my other responsibilities. I could probably manage a weekend or ER trip. Uh. Wish this were behind me.
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Well I'm alive... So no. But it was what my doctor gave me after extensive blood work, urine and other things. I'm not saying that's safe for anyone as I'm not a doctor.
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GABA in short is an amino acid. You have GABA receptors in your brain where the gaba binds too. When you get drunk, your brain releases dopamine and gaba (happy happy) is created from the dopamine. This triggers your brains pleasure system. Over repeated time your brain gets used to this dopamine and being in a depressive state.

So essentially when you quit drinking, you have that lack of gaba. This leads to neurological changes. Hence detox. Detox is the period of time where your brain adjusts to that lack of gaba. There are other things going on, but benzos raise that gaba level until your body and brain has adapted to the change.

The thought is you take benzos for a few days, and when detox is over with, you're done with both. I might be wrong on some of that but that's my understanding.
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Understand.

So far you're doing great.
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