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pills that kill
These pills that kill
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety are so so vain
These pills you don’t know, what they will do
Till they drag you down, or worst kill you
I want to stop
Just leave me alone
My gaba receptors
Up inside my head
To use to these pills
These pills that kill
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety, are so so vain
At one time fixed me, but not anymore
Fixed me one time
But now on the floor
The withdraws are bad, so hard to go threw
When your head is spinning, all around you
So take these pills
These pills that kill
Taken once for anxiety
Now for survival
These pills that kill
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety are so so vain
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety are so so vain
These pills you don’t know, what they will do
Till they drag you down, or worst kill you
I want to stop
Just leave me alone
My gaba receptors
Up inside my head
To use to these pills
These pills that kill
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety, are so so vain
At one time fixed me, but not anymore
Fixed me one time
But now on the floor
The withdraws are bad, so hard to go threw
When your head is spinning, all around you
So take these pills
These pills that kill
Taken once for anxiety
Now for survival
These pills that kill
These pills cause pain
These pills for anxiety are so so vain
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I totally agree- those pills are supposed to fix your anxiety which they do but the catch 22 is when you try to get off them there is the withdrawals and then your anxiety is worse than before- I found this one site I believe it is NativeRemedies.com and I was reading on it yesterday and they say they have a product that is herbal called MindSoothe which is supposed to help with anxiety and depression, so when I can afford it I might try that.
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thanks NEEDTOBESOBER i will have a look at the site and see....i believe herbs realy work..like you said they are so expensive. its not write the way doctors hand out meds now days when there are so many natural things that could probly help us and the fda would rather aprove things that can damage us.
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Wow, what a poem! You sure know how to write.
As for the content, isn't it just absolutely sad? And yeah, you need the pills for anxiety and then you're left with both a physical and mental addiction. It isn't fair.
I'm in Canada and have to admit that it's pretty difficult to get your hands on anti-anxiety drugs nowadays. Doctors are more and more aware of the effects of benzos. Now, not saying that is every single doctor, but most of whom I'm come across.
I don't have any advice to you. I was fortunate, I was able to taper my dosage down to where I didn't have withdrawal symptoms hardly anymore. They are tolerable. Perhaps if you check around this site you may find some good information.
~kiddo~
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how long where you on benzo's and what type? How did you wheen off?? The doctors feed people with anything hear. The poem..well I kindoff was thinking of my own problems but my freind died from a siezure due to zanax a few weeks ago and the part about hitting the floor..my husbands had siezures from zanax withdraw as well. crazzy stuff..his first one the doctor had toulk him of 4 mg daily cold turykey..go figure right..thanks for your reply.
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I'm sorry to hear that you've had such bad experiences regarding benzos.
I well, was on Ativan. Long story, I'll leave it at that. I was on 2 mg pills and basically took as many as I could get my hands on.
I weaned by going down to .5 mg and was only given them once a month. The script would be gone in a matter of a few days.
I also found that Prozac helped with the withdrawal symptoms.
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in my experience zanax has been the hardest benzo to withdraw from because of its half life....ex..valium and colodopin are in your system 1 pill up to 24 hours and zanax are only 6 to 12. with valium and colodopin your going down and staying steadily down and zanax you crash and burn..yes it is absoulutely a bad idea to go off cold turkey...my husband had a siezure going off of them cold turkey in which his doctor was the reason for this. He fell off of a roof and broke his hip..40 feet luck to be alive. Thats allot of the reason why i want off they are so dangerous in changing the chemicals in your brain.
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Originally Posted by kiddo
I'm sorry to hear that you've had such bad experiences regarding benzos.
I well, was on Ativan. Long story, I'll leave it at that. I was on 2 mg pills and basically took as many as I could get my hands on.
I weaned by going down to .5 mg and was only given them once a month. The script would be gone in a matter of a few days.
I also found that Prozac helped with the withdrawal symptoms.
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I am presribed Xanax. I am still taking them. However, not long ago I was taking 4.mg a day, I tried to do my own one month withdrawal and found that was too fast, even finding a Dr. who would use valium. I threw away well over 100 xanax. Later, my primary Dr. who is a psychiatrist was quite upset with me for mismanaging my diagnosed disorder. Still, I insisted that they were causing me problems with the side effects. She has lowered my dosage to 2 mg a day. Still...I insist on doing things my way....and am down to .5mg a day most days. I still believe that I do not want this dependence and that in time I may make it to an only as needed basis. My goal at this time is to take the very minimum required by my body and still be able to function without being crippled by the withdrawal or the original diagnosis.
Many people find that they can not manage to have them around and not take them. If that is the case, I strongly recommend checking in for inhouse help. I was quite disappointed to find that my 4-6 wk self-managed program was too fast for me. However, I think much of that depends on how long one has taken them. I have been taking them for years. One Dr reports to me that others have had little difficulty stopping them quickly. Some people here have had long term difficulties. Even tho' I myself am taking less than prescribed..I am honest with my Dr about it. The only thing I strongly assert is that this really must be managed medically. It is entirely dangerous to do otherwise.
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Many people find that they can not manage to have them around and not take them. If that is the case, I strongly recommend checking in for inhouse help. I was quite disappointed to find that my 4-6 wk self-managed program was too fast for me. However, I think much of that depends on how long one has taken them. I have been taking them for years. One Dr reports to me that others have had little difficulty stopping them quickly. Some people here have had long term difficulties. Even tho' I myself am taking less than prescribed..I am honest with my Dr about it. The only thing I strongly assert is that this really must be managed medically. It is entirely dangerous to do otherwise.
respectfully,
live
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Yes, I'm still on Prozac. However, I didn't go on Prozac for the withdrawals, just found they helped with the symptoms. It also killed the high I would get from the Ativan.
Has your husband been talking to his doctor about this? Getting off Benzos is very, very difficult. It was the hardest thing for me to kick and I've been on many medications. It was almost as bad as Paxil. Well, in some ways it was worse. I wasn't addicted to Paxil, just my body was. With the benzos it was a completely different story. I was both physically and mentally addicted. Not a pretty combination.
If I was to go back and do things over, seriously, I'd go the route of detox. The symptoms just don't get easier, they get harder. However, I don't know anything about your husband or his medical history so I'd definitely speak to a doctor. I think you've mentioned that already though.
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Originally Posted by liveweyerd
I am presribed Xanax. I am still taking them. However, not long ago I was taking 4.mg a day, I tried to do my own one month withdrawal and found that was too fast, even finding a Dr. who would use valium. I threw away well over 100 xanax. Later, my primary Dr. who is a psychiatrist was quite upset with me for mismanaging my diagnosed disorder. Still, I insisted that they were causing me problems with the side effects. She has lowered my dosage to 2 mg a day. Still...I insist on doing things my way....and am down to .5mg a day most days. I still believe that I do not want this dependence and that in time I may make it to an only as needed basis. My goal at this time is to take the very minimum required by my body and still be able to function without being crippled by the withdrawal or the original diagnosis.
Many people find that they can not manage to have them around and not take them. If that is the case, I strongly recommend checking in for inhouse help. I was quite disappointed to find that my 4-6 wk self-managed program was too fast for me. However, I think much of that depends on how long one has taken them. I have been taking them for years. One Dr reports to me that others have had little difficulty stopping them quickly. Some people here have had long term difficulties. Even tho' I myself am taking less than prescribed..I am honest with my Dr about it. The only thing I strongly assert is that this really must be managed medically. It is entirely dangerous to do otherwise.
respectfully,
live
Many people find that they can not manage to have them around and not take them. If that is the case, I strongly recommend checking in for inhouse help. I was quite disappointed to find that my 4-6 wk self-managed program was too fast for me. However, I think much of that depends on how long one has taken them. I have been taking them for years. One Dr reports to me that others have had little difficulty stopping them quickly. Some people here have had long term difficulties. Even tho' I myself am taking less than prescribed..I am honest with my Dr about it. The only thing I strongly assert is that this really must be managed medically. It is entirely dangerous to do otherwise.
respectfully,
live
i to have been ao benzos for years...i started recreational use at about 19 then at 21 perscribed valuim for 2 years changed to zanax at 23 and have been on them about every day scince. I am to down to 0.5 mg daily. I am worried because I started taking the medication due to severe anxiety..panic attacks in stores and as some will say i am a spaz or others bi polar or others would say hormonal..whatever you want to call it. i have yet to be to a psyciatrist due to my personal fears..my mother has bi polar pschitsophective (pardon spelling!) disorder. I have twin uncles who are schitsophrinic and a whole bunch of others who suffer from eating disorders, depression and anxiety. I refuse to be put on a million medications and benzos work with less side effects so i have accepted them. Now i want off because i realize how addictive, dangerous and in so many more ways they effect my life..but im affraid the benifits of them outway the risk. 1 year ago i came off for 10 months to have my son. the withdraws were terrible and i was crazzy. i started haveing night terrors, even waking outside, which i did scince i was a child. im one of those dangerous dreamers you know and a even cought myself flying up out of body and went back in. i also had a couple hallusanation. i dont know if this was hormones or lack of benzo's it happened few months after taking them. You have done so well to come off to 0.5 from 4mg. how long did that take you. Scince my sons been born i have been relying on my husbands script of blues every month. Which is bad write cause how do i tell a doctor that. He is getting his script filled today...i cant go to in house treatment cause i have kids..what would i tell my 6 year old and who would take care of them..no i think i can do it hear but im afraid i may realy have a condition in which i need the meds..but i dont want to go threw millions of anti depressants..i guess i will have to deal..excersise should help i just hope threw time i feel better. respectivly back write back crystal
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Originally Posted by kiddo
Yes, I'm still on Prozac. However, I didn't go on Prozac for the withdrawals, just found they helped with the symptoms. It also killed the high I would get from the Ativan.
Has your husband been talking to his doctor about this? Getting off Benzos is very, very difficult. It was the hardest thing for me to kick and I've been on many medications. It was almost as bad as Paxil. Well, in some ways it was worse. I wasn't addicted to Paxil, just my body was. With the benzos it was a completely different story. I was both physically and mentally addicted. Not a pretty combination.
If I was to go back and do things over, seriously, I'd go the route of detox. The symptoms just don't get easier, they get harder. However, I don't know anything about your husband or his medical history so I'd definitely speak to a doctor. I think you've mentioned that already though.
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I can only speak for myself, but I tried everything I could think of to understand and talk myself out of having a brain/mental illness. In the end, when I lost that battle, it was a great relief to know what was wrong and to have it treated. It gave me my life back. I went from the pits to being able to function and live and work. Not that everything has been rosy...I am not saying that. But I am saying that I am very glad that I saw and have a psychiatrist. I had to get past, and still work on it, the fear, the shame, the self-imposed stigma. I think a psychiatrist is a specialist, the same as a urologist, cardiologist etc. And as with all Drs I shop for one I feel comfortable with and good about. I am still talking about Drs because I still believe this needs to be medically managed. Even if what you want is off the.
I have been prescribed xanax and stopped it myself several times over the past 14 years which is why I feel like I can manage this myself with my Dr's knowledge this time. When I tried it awhile back, thinking this, I was in for a rude shock. It was not at all as it was before. I was very ill and needed to take a month off work and get a local Dr's help using the Ashton manual, which you can find in Substance Abuse forum. I did get off them for 2 weeks only to find I was still ill from the original diagnosis, called my psychiatrist, who insisted that I take the xanax. Had I not been a long term patient and trusting of her, I might not have heeded her advise. She, did, however accede to my taking less, as little as possible.
Anyway, a slow taper has worked better for me.
Many here have done it differently. Each of us have our own chemistry.
My body has adjusted quite well to the .5mg thus far. It gets better every day. Then I will attempt to slowly work in a .25 mg per day dosage. Then I will assess my experience with that. As I stated earlier I want them to be as needed only, such that if I do not take any, I am not compelled by my body being dependent on them to take a maintenance dose. I do not know if this is possible. Because yes, I may find, that my original diagnosis still needs managed. But I do know that my body changes. I used to have severe migraines frequently. I almost never have migraines anymore. So, I have reasons to think my severe anxiety may possibly be able to be managed.
Some of your anxiety could well be the drugs and the situation you are in.
I could not live in the drinking, drugging environment without becoming extremely stressed.
So, I do hope you will consider talking to a professional about your situation.
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I have been prescribed xanax and stopped it myself several times over the past 14 years which is why I feel like I can manage this myself with my Dr's knowledge this time. When I tried it awhile back, thinking this, I was in for a rude shock. It was not at all as it was before. I was very ill and needed to take a month off work and get a local Dr's help using the Ashton manual, which you can find in Substance Abuse forum. I did get off them for 2 weeks only to find I was still ill from the original diagnosis, called my psychiatrist, who insisted that I take the xanax. Had I not been a long term patient and trusting of her, I might not have heeded her advise. She, did, however accede to my taking less, as little as possible.
Anyway, a slow taper has worked better for me.
Many here have done it differently. Each of us have our own chemistry.
My body has adjusted quite well to the .5mg thus far. It gets better every day. Then I will attempt to slowly work in a .25 mg per day dosage. Then I will assess my experience with that. As I stated earlier I want them to be as needed only, such that if I do not take any, I am not compelled by my body being dependent on them to take a maintenance dose. I do not know if this is possible. Because yes, I may find, that my original diagnosis still needs managed. But I do know that my body changes. I used to have severe migraines frequently. I almost never have migraines anymore. So, I have reasons to think my severe anxiety may possibly be able to be managed.
Some of your anxiety could well be the drugs and the situation you are in.
I could not live in the drinking, drugging environment without becoming extremely stressed.
So, I do hope you will consider talking to a professional about your situation.
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I want to clarify something...I am not in any way implying that You need xanax. I cannot know whether you do or not. Only a profession whom you are honest with can make that call.
I myself would prefer and asked for Buspar or something else other than xanax. I do not like xanax.
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I myself would prefer and asked for Buspar or something else other than xanax. I do not like xanax.
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