Class of July 2013 Part 38
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I'm really sorry you're still low Leshar. To do lists help me when I'm like that.
A simple achievement like showering and eating can be a days achievement to start with, and then work your way up from there day by day?
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A simple achievement like showering and eating can be a days achievement to start with, and then work your way up from there day by day?
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Leshar honey ~ I'm not sure why your therapist thinks cannabis oil doesn't contain THC. Perhaps this is some special type I don't know about.
I'm also sorry that you are suffering honey.
I would do anything to be able to spend time with you, walk with you, go to a movie, or just have a good laugh about silly chic stuff. We just love you so much.
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I'm also sorry that you are suffering honey.
I would do anything to be able to spend time with you, walk with you, go to a movie, or just have a good laugh about silly chic stuff. We just love you so much.
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Yep all good here guys Ta 
Today is another day x
Leshar, I'm begging you to at least try the cannabis oil. If he tells you it contains no THC then it doesn't.
My friend ( another crazy cat lady ) ,well her husband has suffered ptsd for years since the Vietnam war. I can't even knock n the door as any loud noise could trigger the stress.
He does not socialise, leave the house etc as he suffers debilitating depression.
Well she has got him onto the cannabis oil. You only need a drop. The change has been nothing more than miraculous.
I'm not saying this will happen for you , but what I am saying is just give it a go.
You have nothing to lose.
You won't get a high from it.
It's the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed and what it does for little kids with cancer and other disgusting terminal illnesses is incomparable.
I implore you to just give it a go as someone who has truly seen nothing but goodness come from it xxx it's amazing for those with Parkinson's also.
It could be THE one thing that gets you out of this funk.
Then again, it may not be.
But your psychiatrist is a trained professional as are you.
He knows your history.
This could be the secret to you getting out to the gym , to getting up and showering etc.
If your doc has prescribed it and it's not coming from a lay person, you should give it a go.
I'm ALL for it and some.
If it doesn't work, you've given it a go.
Much love and compassion to you sweet Leshar, our dear friend
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Today is another day x
Leshar, I'm begging you to at least try the cannabis oil. If he tells you it contains no THC then it doesn't.
My friend ( another crazy cat lady ) ,well her husband has suffered ptsd for years since the Vietnam war. I can't even knock n the door as any loud noise could trigger the stress.
He does not socialise, leave the house etc as he suffers debilitating depression.
Well she has got him onto the cannabis oil. You only need a drop. The change has been nothing more than miraculous.
I'm not saying this will happen for you , but what I am saying is just give it a go.
You have nothing to lose.
You won't get a high from it.
It's the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed and what it does for little kids with cancer and other disgusting terminal illnesses is incomparable.
I implore you to just give it a go as someone who has truly seen nothing but goodness come from it xxx it's amazing for those with Parkinson's also.
It could be THE one thing that gets you out of this funk.
Then again, it may not be.
But your psychiatrist is a trained professional as are you.
He knows your history.
This could be the secret to you getting out to the gym , to getting up and showering etc.
If your doc has prescribed it and it's not coming from a lay person, you should give it a go.
I'm ALL for it and some.
If it doesn't work, you've given it a go.
Much love and compassion to you sweet Leshar, our dear friend
Xxxx
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Medical marijuana is a touchy subject but I'm glad we can all talk it out here 
You have to remember than both Suze and I (and perhaps others here) have a whole history with cannabis, and not a good one.
I'm not one to demonise anything - I was the problem, not the drugs I used...
but I have to admit I'd need more than anecdotal evidence before I took something like CBD's.
People can't even seem to agree on whether it's got THC or not, or whether Cannabidiols get you high or not...
I'm glad it's helped your friend but I wonder if he has a history like ours, or is he a normie Snooz?
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You have to remember than both Suze and I (and perhaps others here) have a whole history with cannabis, and not a good one.
I'm not one to demonise anything - I was the problem, not the drugs I used...
but I have to admit I'd need more than anecdotal evidence before I took something like CBD's.
People can't even seem to agree on whether it's got THC or not, or whether Cannabidiols get you high or not...
I'm glad it's helped your friend but I wonder if he has a history like ours, or is he a normie Snooz?
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Leshar, you mention you'd rather spend the money on personal trainers etc., but I'm actually hoping if you did anything at all, it would be to reach out to the helplines I provided as a starting point.
If you can't manage to brush your hair or teeth in the morning, a personal trainer may just be a step too far.
You've obviously been living with this for a long time, is there a part of you that accepts these low times, you know that they do pass?
Again, I'd urge you to reach out to the appropriate support services where people are trained to help you. We can only provide so much support, but I feel you need to interact with a support service trained to your needs.
Suze, I'm sorry the discussion brought up issues that you thought should not be discussed. I think all of us have potential to "addict" to anything, so it's important to discuss and be open. We can be frail, even in recovery - challenges will come. Think of food, love, sex....all of that can be intoxicating if we take it too far. Maybe not an issue for all of us, I don't know, but shutting down discussions doesn't help.
Often the issue is in our own recovery when we get upset by something we see here (or in real life). Everyone knows I'm good for a tantrum now and then! But we need to be honest about why it's bringing something up in us. I recall New Years that you were unsettled by alcohol and drugs near your home too. I guess you have a lot of changes going on right now too V, so please look after yourself,
If you can't manage to brush your hair or teeth in the morning, a personal trainer may just be a step too far.
You've obviously been living with this for a long time, is there a part of you that accepts these low times, you know that they do pass?
Again, I'd urge you to reach out to the appropriate support services where people are trained to help you. We can only provide so much support, but I feel you need to interact with a support service trained to your needs.
Suze, I'm sorry the discussion brought up issues that you thought should not be discussed. I think all of us have potential to "addict" to anything, so it's important to discuss and be open. We can be frail, even in recovery - challenges will come. Think of food, love, sex....all of that can be intoxicating if we take it too far. Maybe not an issue for all of us, I don't know, but shutting down discussions doesn't help.
Often the issue is in our own recovery when we get upset by something we see here (or in real life). Everyone knows I'm good for a tantrum now and then! But we need to be honest about why it's bringing something up in us. I recall New Years that you were unsettled by alcohol and drugs near your home too. I guess you have a lot of changes going on right now too V, so please look after yourself,
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I understand where Suze is coming from.
I don't think she was being fragile or over sensitive at all.
It's like oxycontin or benzoes can be a boon to some and an absolute nightmare to others.
It can be a minefield on sites like these, but I think by and large we negotiate it all pretty well
Bringing it back to you Leshar, I think Crois' idea of reaching out for help is a good one.
I hate to see you so down - I know you hate it too.
If there's something we can all agree on it's that we love you and we want to see you happy
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I don't think she was being fragile or over sensitive at all.
It's like oxycontin or benzoes can be a boon to some and an absolute nightmare to others.
It can be a minefield on sites like these, but I think by and large we negotiate it all pretty well
Bringing it back to you Leshar, I think Crois' idea of reaching out for help is a good one.
I hate to see you so down - I know you hate it too.
If there's something we can all agree on it's that we love you and we want to see you happy
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Ok Suze , dear one ... Crois'comment was NOT directed at you. She was referring to herself as being good for a tantrum which made me chuckle as she is being so honest here.
No one needs to get on the defence as we all have differing opinions which makes us a really unique class of July.
We should all be able to discuss things here and appreciate everyone's point of view.
I don't believe the discussion should be shut down love as my personal opinion thinks this is something I feel Leshar should try. She gets into horrendously miserable cycles , which happens frequently .
It is purely MY opinion only Suze
Leshar has been offered this by her psychiatrist who knows her way more intimately than any of us here. I feel she should be guided by them.
That's irrespective of my opinions. I'm not by any means suggesting I'm right, I'm just stating from personal observations .
But as I said, it may not work for everyone.
Thanks Dee for pointing out that this was an issue in the past for both of you.
By no means would I intentionally upset someone. Especially you guys who I love.
But I think it's a healthy discussion and Leshar is ultimately the only one who can decide for herself.
Let's hope we can keep the discussion open .
As far as I see , I agree that it's an addiction , the same as alcohol, sex, eating etc that has already been put forward.
We have to deal with our alcohol addiction and discuss it here every single day.
It pertains to our class member, so I think just get everyone's take on it, discuss it intelligently as I'm very interested to see what our other group members say .
If they don't agree with me that's fine, but as I said, purely my opinion only.
Sorry if I offended you Suze xx but even if this is not what Leshar wants , she will decide :-) we can see others options .
Again Crois' post wasn't directed at you love.
Much love and respect to all of my fellow Julyers
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... Crois'comment was NOT directed at you. She was referring to herself as being good for a tantrum which made me chuckle as she is being so honest here.No one needs to get on the defence as we all have differing opinions which makes us a really unique class of July.
We should all be able to discuss things here and appreciate everyone's point of view.
I don't believe the discussion should be shut down love as my personal opinion thinks this is something I feel Leshar should try. She gets into horrendously miserable cycles , which happens frequently .
It is purely MY opinion only Suze
Leshar has been offered this by her psychiatrist who knows her way more intimately than any of us here. I feel she should be guided by them.
That's irrespective of my opinions. I'm not by any means suggesting I'm right, I'm just stating from personal observations .
But as I said, it may not work for everyone.
Thanks Dee for pointing out that this was an issue in the past for both of you.
By no means would I intentionally upset someone. Especially you guys who I love.
But I think it's a healthy discussion and Leshar is ultimately the only one who can decide for herself.
Let's hope we can keep the discussion open .
As far as I see , I agree that it's an addiction , the same as alcohol, sex, eating etc that has already been put forward.
We have to deal with our alcohol addiction and discuss it here every single day.
It pertains to our class member, so I think just get everyone's take on it, discuss it intelligently as I'm very interested to see what our other group members say .
If they don't agree with me that's fine, but as I said, purely my opinion only.
Sorry if I offended you Suze xx but even if this is not what Leshar wants , she will decide :-) we can see others options .
Again Crois' post wasn't directed at you love.
Much love and respect to all of my fellow Julyers
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Suze, the tantrum throwing was 100% referring to me. Showing my own frailities.
I'd say you have every right to feel whatever it is you feel, but I cannot say it any more beautifully than Snoozy said it above.
Good lord, being honest here - all of you have annoyed me at some point...probably except Bob! But that's part of me and my recovery, how I work through my own bratty self when it lurks up. I'm being honest about the journey of recovery here, warts and all. And sometimes my warts are big and ugly and I know my opinions likewise can annoy others here.
But don't not post. Unless you feel you truly need time out. I know that has helped me to see sometimes when I've been silly about something.
NOW....when I refer to "being silly" or anything else, I mean me. And me alone. But you are obviously "upset" in some way. I did recoil a little myself when I saw the doc prescribed medical marijuana - I thought, "bloody hell, we're addicts, is that safe?"....my first honest response.
But I have no comment other than that...and I can't relate to how much you hate what it did to your life. But it destroyed my husbands and part of mine because of it. But it would be great if it could be safe to use. And that, I have no idea about.
P.S. On this;
Dee, .god love ya, but let's be clear since Suze has mistaken other words I said already - I did not use the words fragile or over sensitive in my post. 
I'd say you have every right to feel whatever it is you feel, but I cannot say it any more beautifully than Snoozy said it above.
Good lord, being honest here - all of you have annoyed me at some point...probably except Bob! But that's part of me and my recovery, how I work through my own bratty self when it lurks up. I'm being honest about the journey of recovery here, warts and all. And sometimes my warts are big and ugly and I know my opinions likewise can annoy others here.
But don't not post. Unless you feel you truly need time out. I know that has helped me to see sometimes when I've been silly about something.
NOW....when I refer to "being silly" or anything else, I mean me. And me alone. But you are obviously "upset" in some way. I did recoil a little myself when I saw the doc prescribed medical marijuana - I thought, "bloody hell, we're addicts, is that safe?"....my first honest response.
But I have no comment other than that...and I can't relate to how much you hate what it did to your life. But it destroyed my husbands and part of mine because of it. But it would be great if it could be safe to use. And that, I have no idea about.
P.S. On this;
Originally Posted by Dee74 
I understand where Suze is coming from.
I don't think she was being fragile or over sensitive at all.
I don't think she was being fragile or over sensitive at all.
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Originally Posted by SnoozyQ
It's my darling granddaughters birthday today.
Happy Birthday beautiful Ryleigh Nanny loves you.
She is 7 xxxx
Happy Birthday beautiful Ryleigh
Nanny loves you. She is 7 xxxx
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Thanks Crois. I won't give up. I have hope that one day, when she's older, she'll come looking for me
I posted here as it made me feel better. I've been advised by the police, not to post anything re Ryleigh whilst the AVO is in order xx
One day...
I posted here as it made me feel better. I've been advised by the police, not to post anything re Ryleigh whilst the AVO is in order xx
One day...
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I'm really sorry to have triggered some ppl with this cannabis oil thing. As far as I'm aware, there is no part of it that has thc/gives a high. My doctor knows all about my alcohol addiction. But I really don't want to try it. I mean I've tried everything from multiple meds to ect. I live with depression to a greater or lesser degree and have since I was in my teens.
Croissant, I don't want local help within the health care system. It's too embarrassing. I could go private but it's costly and I really don't think it makes any difference. I can't get beyond the idea of just paying someone to listen to me.
It just makes me irritable.
The best I can do is not drink and get thru a day.
Croissant, I don't want local help within the health care system. It's too embarrassing. I could go private but it's costly and I really don't think it makes any difference. I can't get beyond the idea of just paying someone to listen to me.
It just makes me irritable.
The best I can do is not drink and get thru a day.
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You did nothing wrong Leshar
I'm sorry if you feel I misrepresented you Crois...never meant to do that.
Any time I wade into something, I'm just trying to keep everyone in the same boat...no harm, no foul, no sides taken
Sometimes I hit the mark,...and sometimes I ends up in the water
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I'm sorry if you feel I misrepresented you Crois...never meant to do that.
Any time I wade into something, I'm just trying to keep everyone in the same boat...no harm, no foul, no sides taken
Sometimes I hit the mark,...and sometimes I ends up in the water
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Leshar you didn't intentionally trigger anything. No harm done .
You are in charge of you. But I think it's great that you can get different perspectives here xx
Everyone here wants what's best for you as Dee said. Because we ALL care about you xx
You are in charge of you. But I think it's great that you can get different perspectives here xx
Everyone here wants what's best for you as Dee said. Because we ALL care about you xx
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Yes .Dee, for sure. I just wanted to be clear about it all in the one post, I didn't use those terms, and I know you do always mean well and do it very delicately.
Leshar, you know how you feel. I do think those lines included anonymous helplines, where a good old anonymous vent could help too so you don't feel so isolated. I do see the stigma you might feel given your profession, but to clarify, it was more the support thing. I've called them myself to have a cry and a vent, it was bloody good! And, maybe there is a support group they could suggest? anyway, I'm shutting up now.
Hugs everyone.
Lulu...I've been reading yours and LBs posts too, please don't give up, ladies,xx
Leshar, you know how you feel. I do think those lines included anonymous helplines, where a good old anonymous vent could help too so you don't feel so isolated. I do see the stigma you might feel given your profession, but to clarify, it was more the support thing. I've called them myself to have a cry and a vent, it was bloody good! And, maybe there is a support group they could suggest? anyway, I'm shutting up now.
Hugs everyone.
Lulu...I've been reading yours and LBs posts too, please don't give up, ladies,xx
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