Phone call, and update
Southern through and through
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In.....trouble :-)
Posts: 1,453
Let's see, if I get in my car right now, I can be there in uh....maybe 4 hours.
Ya know, Moose, I've had SO MUCH stress lately, a condo on the beach is sounding very nice about now...
Ok, alright, so I won't bust in on you and Mr. Moose. Just promise you'll enjoy every minute and remember that you HP has the plan for your son. I'm praying that your son will see the plan this time.
Hugs to you and Mr. Moose,
Hangin' In
Ya know, Moose, I've had SO MUCH stress lately, a condo on the beach is sounding very nice about now...
Ok, alright, so I won't bust in on you and Mr. Moose. Just promise you'll enjoy every minute and remember that you HP has the plan for your son. I'm praying that your son will see the plan this time.
Hugs to you and Mr. Moose,
Hangin' In
Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: in my own world~
Posts: 1,237
Glad to read that you arrived safely and are enjoying the tropical winds. Its so cold and rainy up here that I'm actually visualizing you and Mr. Moose breathing in the warm Florida air. Have a great time and I'm praying your son does wonders for himself and new baby on the way. Maybe this will be an awakening for him......Smiles, Bonnie
Jujubee Queen
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 3,582
Afternoon everyone,
Well oldest son went to court this a.m., they are "sending" it to Cleveland BIG courts, so he'll have to go there for court in 3 months, or whenever.
He has been calling me almost daily, and we've had some nice chats.
Until this morning.
The other day, he asked me why I wasn't very excited about his GF being pregnant, and I told him honestly how I felt.
NOT that I believe in abortion, mind you, (I am pro-choice) but I explained how I feel.
Which is:
He is 34 years old.
She supposedly is 18.
He is not working.
She is not working.
He may go back to prison.
That makes for a dangerous, and very sad environment for a new baby.
Yep, that's exactly how I feel.
(And if you don't want opinion, don't ask.)
I didn't know I was on speaker phone, and still don't care.
Well, I guess GF heard everything I said, and began thinking.
Now oldest is off the deep end, and getting all arky barky.
He even called the youngest son, who happens to agree with me and Mr. Moose.
Anyway, the bottom line is, I realize I have no control over the situation, but I still believe I have the right to state my opinion, which I did, nicely, and gently.
It is just WRONG to bring a baby into his dysfunctional lifestyle.
Yougest son said that oldest son is acting like having a baby is some kind of competition. Good grief.
Yikes.
(I think he'll not be calling me soon...but knowing him, he'll cool off and call and apologize)
Well oldest son went to court this a.m., they are "sending" it to Cleveland BIG courts, so he'll have to go there for court in 3 months, or whenever.
He has been calling me almost daily, and we've had some nice chats.
Until this morning.
The other day, he asked me why I wasn't very excited about his GF being pregnant, and I told him honestly how I felt.
NOT that I believe in abortion, mind you, (I am pro-choice) but I explained how I feel.
Which is:
He is 34 years old.
She supposedly is 18.
He is not working.
She is not working.
He may go back to prison.
That makes for a dangerous, and very sad environment for a new baby.
Yep, that's exactly how I feel.
(And if you don't want opinion, don't ask.)
I didn't know I was on speaker phone, and still don't care.
Well, I guess GF heard everything I said, and began thinking.
Now oldest is off the deep end, and getting all arky barky.
He even called the youngest son, who happens to agree with me and Mr. Moose.
Anyway, the bottom line is, I realize I have no control over the situation, but I still believe I have the right to state my opinion, which I did, nicely, and gently.
It is just WRONG to bring a baby into his dysfunctional lifestyle.
Yougest son said that oldest son is acting like having a baby is some kind of competition. Good grief.
Yikes.
(I think he'll not be calling me soon...but knowing him, he'll cool off and call and apologize)
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Eastern Time Zone
Posts: 1,011
Moose:
Sounds like you've got a good recovery going there. I'm praying for your whole situation.
I know it's heart breaking to think your own son is corrupting others by being a supplier, but i think that selling to friends, family, and acquaintances is way more common than selling to strangers.. almost like he is doing a service (like us when we know someone in our circle who is a body mechanic and works out of his garage to do it).... hope that helps...
I would really appreciate it if people would call me if they knew my son was selling, using, anything to do with drugs/alcohol. One of the reasons we have this plaque of drugs/alcohol addiction in this country is that people keep this information to themselves thinking it is none of their business.
Sounds like you've got a good recovery going there. I'm praying for your whole situation.
I know it's heart breaking to think your own son is corrupting others by being a supplier, but i think that selling to friends, family, and acquaintances is way more common than selling to strangers.. almost like he is doing a service (like us when we know someone in our circle who is a body mechanic and works out of his garage to do it).... hope that helps...
I would really appreciate it if people would call me if they knew my son was selling, using, anything to do with drugs/alcohol. One of the reasons we have this plaque of drugs/alcohol addiction in this country is that people keep this information to themselves thinking it is none of their business.
get it, give it, grow in it
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calif coast
Posts: 3,167
We have every right to express our opinions when asked. My big problem has always been giving unsolicited advice...I'm working real hard at stopping that defect.
Though sometimes I wish I had just said "I love you, I know you'll do the right thing."
It has got to be hard to get excited about becomming a Grandma, given the situation.
Addiction puts a cloud over most of our involvement with our AS's. It doesn't take much for them to have a resentment. Sometimes we give our opinion just because we "tell it like it is" from the standpoint of what we think is objectivity.
Though sometimes I wish I had just said "I love you, I know you'll do the right thing."
It has got to be hard to get excited about becomming a Grandma, given the situation.
Addiction puts a cloud over most of our involvement with our AS's. It doesn't take much for them to have a resentment. Sometimes we give our opinion just because we "tell it like it is" from the standpoint of what we think is objectivity.
On a tear
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Volcano Country!
Posts: 3,221
" getting all arky barky" Well now, sister, you just gave me a great new way to describe that addict behavior. I love it!
Course, I hate to think what you might call MY recent behavior... itchy bitc*y?
You rock, Moose. Really. You have maintained a loving relationship with your sons, no matter what. And isn't THAT the primary purpose of our program? To love the addict/alcoholic while still drinking or not?
I love my kids... adore them... and for a long time, I think I almost worshiped them. What gifts they are... and to me, who didn't deserve them.
That thinking is part of what has fed my disease... and finding a "balance" is a dance I'll be stepping to for the rest of my life. But watching you... you just seem to glide, you know.
Thank you for your posts and your updates. They help me... very much.
((((Moose and Sons))))
Course, I hate to think what you might call MY recent behavior... itchy bitc*y?
You rock, Moose. Really. You have maintained a loving relationship with your sons, no matter what. And isn't THAT the primary purpose of our program? To love the addict/alcoholic while still drinking or not?
I love my kids... adore them... and for a long time, I think I almost worshiped them. What gifts they are... and to me, who didn't deserve them.
That thinking is part of what has fed my disease... and finding a "balance" is a dance I'll be stepping to for the rest of my life. But watching you... you just seem to glide, you know.
Thank you for your posts and your updates. They help me... very much.
((((Moose and Sons))))
Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 388
Moose,
Good Morning.
Lucky you (and Mr. Moose) for having the opportunity to enjoy the lovely Florida weather and the beach.
Did I mention that it will be 7 degrees today in Chicago. Yup, 7 degrees.... on top of the 10 plus inches of snow we got recently. (Not to mention the 2 feet of snow that was already here)
Do I sound jealous, well I am!
I am sorry that you are having all of the telephone drama during your vacation.
But, us Codie Moms/Dads are kinda like big, important Doctors.... always on-call.
Hey, that's why we get paid the Big BUCKS!!!
Enjoy,
Colleen
Good Morning.
Lucky you (and Mr. Moose) for having the opportunity to enjoy the lovely Florida weather and the beach.
Did I mention that it will be 7 degrees today in Chicago. Yup, 7 degrees.... on top of the 10 plus inches of snow we got recently. (Not to mention the 2 feet of snow that was already here)
Do I sound jealous, well I am!
I am sorry that you are having all of the telephone drama during your vacation.
But, us Codie Moms/Dads are kinda like big, important Doctors.... always on-call.
Hey, that's why we get paid the Big BUCKS!!!
Enjoy,
Colleen
Southern through and through
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In.....trouble :-)
Posts: 1,453
Moose,
Just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you. I know you had a beautiful day today there in sunny FL.
Re the kids (yours and mine) we're Step One, just totally Step One. But I think we can say what we mean without saying it mean...like you have done.
I know that no matter what I say or how I say it, AD doesn't hear what I really mean. Go figure. I think we speak different languages!
Peace returns when I get the focus back on me. So why do I have such a hard time doing that sometimes? Uh, could have something to do with hardheadedness! But at least I know it and I know what I SHOULD do.
Here's praying we can keep returning to what we know to do and what we know works.
Hugs and prayers,
Hangin' In
Just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you. I know you had a beautiful day today there in sunny FL.
Re the kids (yours and mine) we're Step One, just totally Step One. But I think we can say what we mean without saying it mean...like you have done.
I know that no matter what I say or how I say it, AD doesn't hear what I really mean. Go figure. I think we speak different languages!
Peace returns when I get the focus back on me. So why do I have such a hard time doing that sometimes? Uh, could have something to do with hardheadedness! But at least I know it and I know what I SHOULD do.
Here's praying we can keep returning to what we know to do and what we know works.
Hugs and prayers,
Hangin' In
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