Breaking Up is Hard To Do.....

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Old 06-22-2017, 10:06 PM
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53500....Thank you, 53500.....that is reassuring.....
I know what it feels like.....grieving is a very p ainful process, for sure.....
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:50 AM
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I have been separated 3 years, and still struggle with the sadness stage.
I think the point of the article is to fully embrace these stages, WHENVER they occur.
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:42 AM
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It is difficult to do...especially when you cannot go no contact. We have 3 children.

My husband and I are separated, but I may finally make the decision to follow through with a divorce and it breaks my heart. I wish it weren't so...23 years of marriage, 3 children, the history and memories together.

It's not related to alcoholism any more. He's supposedly in recovery, but it's the continued dishonesty and lack of openness. His words don't match his actions. I don't understand it. Well, I guess there's no way around it, but through it.
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Where was this when I needed it 15 yrs. ago ? I had more root canals than I had teeth......
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Old 06-25-2017, 04:51 AM
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I am two & one half weeks in to a break up of sorts not sure what to call it its been no contact sort of both staying away on their own?

I go through loss, anger, resentment, guilt comes in waives and can shift quickly I can go from feeling loss & guilt to anger quickly

I know it took me 3 years to get to this point I think it will take time to work through it
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Thanks for posting this - the whole website is very very
good too!
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Old 06-26-2017, 05:49 AM
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Thank you. This post and the replies came at the right time for me. I'm about 6 months post separation and can't believe the sadness I am feeling right now. I keep cycling through all the emotions. Have had some quite good times but I suspect that's just when I stuff down my feelings. But the last few days the grief has hit me like a sledgehammer again. I physically long for my XAH and it hurts so much. I know I would give in at this point, if he asked me (which he won't). When I'm like this, it feels like it is going to last for ever. I can't imagine ever being happy again or this weight being lifted from my chest. I feel like I can't breathe. When does it start to get better?
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Old 06-26-2017, 06:26 AM
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Have had some quite good times but I suspect that's just when I stuff down my feelings.
I wouldn't assume that to be true. You're not grieving "better" if you are miserable 24/7. You SHOULD be capable of having some "quite good times." That doesn't mean you are "stuffing" anything--just that your life is more than your grief.

Yeah, you will have those sledgehammer moments for a while. You will have some days--or even a couple/few in a row that will plain suck. But you will find, over time, that they are less frequent/intense, and one day you will notice you haven't felt really awful in quite a while.

As for how long that process takes, it takes however long it takes. Some people start feeling pretty good most of the time within a month or two. For others it takes longer. There is no rush. There are things that help--most notably having no contact at all if that's feasible, and if not (having kids, needing to tie up loose ends with property) minimizing it as much as possible. Other things that help are planning for the future--you get to decide how your future looks. Tackling some projects or making some changes you've wanted to make are a good distraction and are building something positive for the future.
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Old 06-26-2017, 10:11 AM
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Yep! More people than you likely know probably heard it...

...and your contributions here I consider to be valuable.

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Dandy, you're not doing *anything* wrong and I've seen many, many people (myself included) lifted up and encouraged by your posts. Your message absolutely gets through. I just think this particular message can't be said often enough and also that we tend to forget it when not in the throes of that situation. So we see it written out, once again, and it resonates.

Please don't stop repeating this valuable message in your very caring way. It'll never stop being needed.
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Thank you Lexie. Hope I'm getting this right. I'm new here and still figuring out how it works. My feelings seem to change by the hour, Have to see my XAH on Weds. With my 2 daughters (in their 20s). First time we will all be together since xmas. Will be really hard and I have to be cheerful etc for daughters' sake. I'm so scared I will get emotional, Your post helped. Thank you
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dandylion View Post
What am I doing wrong?......
I have written well over ten thousand posts in response to those who are struggling with a broken or dysfunctional relationship......and, I say the same things that are in that article....almost word for word in some places.....
And, the content and message are identical......
Why did nobody hear it?
Why are people sounding like they are hearing this stuff for the first time?????
could be because its dandylion and not
dandylionPH.D
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:08 PM
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tomsteve....you make a point.....
Maybe, I should get a title...on a plaque....a gold plaque.....
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Great article. Thank you.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dandylion View Post
What am I doing wrong?......
Nothing wrong.

Originally Posted by dandylion View Post
...Why are people sounding like they are hearing this stuff for the first time?????
Because people don't change when you tell them that they need to change. People only change when they want to. That article, and a whole lot of posts from a whole lot of peeps here on SR, are just advice. Giving advice, in any of it's disguises, rarely gets other people to change.

Over here in my real life meetings we call that "shifting control".

It's what happens when an alanoid is no longer trying to make the dysfunctional family member change their thinking thru words and reasoning and logic. They switch to trying to get newcomers at meetings to change their thinking thru words and reasoning and logic.

We have a sticky on the subject here:

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...3-control.html

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Old 07-05-2017, 06:49 PM
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wait a minute Mike...that seems a bit uncalled for. at best, isn't any sharing of information related to recovery or dieting or buying a home ADVICE of some sort?

Advice (opinion), an opinion or recommendation offered as a guide to action, conduct

recommending a book, recommending attending meetings, suggesting boundaries. many times the OP specifically ASKS for advice or opinions.if we don't talk TO each other, share ideas and options, then what are we here? you seem to speak disparagingly of SR and it's members versus your "real life" meetings.........
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:06 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpEte4plbw

This seems like a good time to repost t his song....that our member, biminiblue, has so generously introduced to me and dedicated to me on a couple of occasions in other threads....
Love ya, biminiblue!
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Yeah, I think there's a place for both kinds of "meetings"--those strictly (or more or less strictly) for sharing experience, strength, and hope, and those in which people can also ask for/receive advice. Both are valuable.

I think the problem comes when the element of trying to force change comes in. Trying to persuade someone in an abusive situation to protect her/himself and any children by taking some effective action is much different from trying to force change by allowing frustration to take over when the person is not yet ready to take action. Persistent reminders that there are other options isn't the same, though, as trying to control someone.

I recently signed onto a lung cancer support group, and I TOTALLY value the advice I'm getting over there--to get a wedge pillow for comfort after surgery, to ask my doctor about certain issues, to consider the need to maybe line someone up to help with dressing changes. If all they were doing was "hearing" me and empathizing, well, no offense, but I can get that here. I'm over there because they know stuff that I don't, and that I suspect most of you are fortunate enough not to know.

OTOH, I intentionally have not told one of my closest friends about my upcoming surgery, because (as another friend warned/reminded me) this friend would, with the best of intentions, overwhelm me with advice about doctors, hospitals, where to go, who to see, etc. I would be constantly feeling like I wasn't doing it "right." I'll tell her when things settle down and I know more and any critical decisions have been made.
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If one offers experience, it either turned out well (and therefore becomes good advice) or turned out badly (whereby it becomes advice of the "don't do what I did" variety.

Maybe it's a question of how it's phrased? "This is what I did" versus "this is what you should do"?
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