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Old 12-03-2009, 02:52 PM
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It's so emotionally unhealthy to have so many bad feelings all the time. The thing is that everything is actually going really well in my life. My life is better than it's ever been in terms of health and career. I've been going to the gym, I've gotten promoted, I have great friends, really spiritually rewarding hobbies, lots of projects to work on. He doesn't seem to care. He just seems miserable. I feel bad for seeming happy around him. Like I need to feel his misery with him. I'm afraid if I don't pick up the phone, he'll go drink tonight. He's convinced he's going to fail his class.

Sorry for rambling.
What a burden. You don't sound unreasonable to me at all. Take care of you first.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:18 PM
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wanting - that's a good one.
My AH is mad at ME because I called him on the carpet for drinking and lying and hiding. But he hid it because I didn't like it (or so he says).
I find I have always excused him by saying he's "sensitive". Because he is so "sensitive" I have to control the way I say things and what I say and when I say it so he doesn't flip his s**t. So he doesn't get HURT or MAD or stomp off or whatever.

Can't fix it. Can't change it. Can't control it. Didn't cause it. Can't own it.
OMG! That's his biggest thing! If I'm hurt, and try to tell him calmly, he gets really angry and starts freaking out about all the reasons I have no right to be hurt by whatever happened. Like my feelings aren't logical. Then, when things calm down, he says (and he says this over and over) that it was the WAY I said it. If I would have said it differently, he wouldn't have to get so angry at me when I want to talk about something.

He's not violent at all (thank goodness). He's just not super compassionate or attentive. And everything seems to always be about him.

I'm so glad I posted here. It's so helpful. Everything you've all said. Thanks again so much.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:21 PM
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You are not messing with anyone's sobriety or pushing them toward drink by standing up for yourself and ensuring you are treated well; despite what you may here from your A/RA.

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Thank you. It's scary when we argue now...every since he relapsed that one night. I'll always worry.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:49 PM
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Everyone has pretty much covered all the bases here... Not much to add from me! Just some love and support. You don't deserve to be dragged down by him and his "woe is me" attitude. If he can't be happy for you and all of your recent successes, achievements, and healthy hobbies, than you don't need him around. He's jealous of your happiness, and instead of being supportive of it and you, he's trying to take it away by being mean, petty, and vindictive. What kind of person does that? There's no excuse for it, and I'm proud of you for hanging up on him. It's like he is going out of his way to try and make you as miserable as he is.

You go on with your house, and your promotion, and your badass self girl... you've earned it! There are plenty of fish in the sea that will see you as the gold mine you are. Throw him back.

My chihuahua has climbed into my lap and informed me that I have said enough. Good luck to you, keep us posted on the house!!!
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:55 PM
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...when things calm down, he says (and he says this over and over) that it was the WAY I said it. If I would have said it differently, he wouldn't have to get so angry at me when I want to talk about something.
Holy Macaroni! You mean there is another poor, poor alcoholic out there that has a girlfriend who just doesn't know how to speak to him in the right "tone" of voice?!?!? OMG! I thought I was the only one who had that problem! What's wrong with us??!!

My response to KeepPedaling was total sarcasm, but seriously, whenever I tried speaking to my ABF he'd "stomp off" also, try to shout me into silence and tell me that he can't take "my tone." "If only you would change your TONE," he'd say. I'd say to him, "I speak the way I speak. I can't change the way I speak to suit you."

They can't respect us because they don't respect themselves.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:33 PM
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Preach on, Dreamer42. I have that tone as well, my passion and animation when I get emotional is actually something most people love about me! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has "tone issues" ha
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Me too!

STBXAH was/is incredibly passive aggressive too. This is a subtle form of abuse and, with me, it escalated. Take care!
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A part of me thinks it might just be my fault that he drank.


He drinks because he wants to drink. Don't listen to his ********. I am so sick of the mind games that these people play. I am tired of them taking out their failures on the people that care the most.

Again, don't listen to this ********!!!
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A part of me thinks it might just be my fault that he drank.

Only if you actually purchased the booze, tied him up, and siphoned it into his esophagus!!!!

Did you do that?
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:49 PM
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Thank you. It's scary when we argue now...every since he relapsed that one night. I'll always worry.
KeepPedaling I would suggest you get a hold of and read the book: 'Why does he do that? - Inside the minds of angry and controlling men' by Lundy Bancroft.

This is an absolutely fantastic book with a whole section dedicated to addiction. Never underestimate your natural instincts, if he is making you feel this way there is something wrong that needs to be addressed. Prevention is better than cure.

If you think he is scary when you argue please protect yourself, he may not have been physically abusive with you but it is fact that all abusive relationships escalate in their frequency and intensity. If you are ''scared'' of your partner when you confront him, this is a major red flag that you should not ignore, your instincts are kicking in, listen to them.

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Old 12-04-2009, 02:09 PM
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KeepPedaling I would suggest you get a hold of and read the book: 'Why does he do that? - Inside the minds of angry and controlling men' by Lundy Bancroft.

This is an absolutely fantastic book with a whole section dedicated to addiction. Never underestimate your natural instincts, if he is making you feel this way there is something wrong that needs to be addressed. Prevention is better than cure.

If you think he is scary when you argue please protect yourself, he may not have been physically abusive with you but it is fact that all abusive relationships escalate in their frequency and intensity. If you are ''scared'' of your partner when you confront him, this is a major red flag that you should not ignore, your instincts are kicking in, listen to them.

Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the book recommendation. I'm going to see if they have the audio book today. When I say I'm scared when we argue, I mean that I'm afraid when he leaves, he'll go drink. I was in a physically abusive relationship once. I remember always feeling worried that he would someday hit me. It wasn't that he threatened, I just had a "feeling" that he would. He eventually did, so you're right, never ignore your gut instincts! With this guy though, I'm more worried about what he'll do to himself. I don't get the feeling he would ever hit me.

Thanks again. And GUESS WHAT!!! THEY ACCEPTED MY OFFER AND I'M GETTING A CONDO!!! MY FIRST HOME EVER!!! I'M FREAKING OUT!
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Only if you actually purchased the booze, tied him up, and siphoned it into his esophagus!!!!

Did you do that?
No, I didn't. I didn't. Thanks.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:11 PM
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Preach on, Dreamer42. I have that tone as well, my passion and animation when I get emotional is actually something most people love about me! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has "tone issues" ha
Maybe we should start a group, "Imperfect Tones Anonymous" ITA
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:19 PM
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Congratulations on your new home! I hope you find joy there!!
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