Alcohol retention in cooking
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Alcohol retention in cooking
I recently saw these figures regarding the retention of alcohol in cooked food.
Alcohol Burn-off Chart
Preparation Method Percent Retained
alcohol added to boiling liquid & removed from heat 85%
alcohol flamed 75%
no heat, stored overnight 70%
baked, 25 minutes, alcohol not stirred into mixture 45%
Baked/simmered dishes with alcohol stirred into mixture:
15 minutes cooking time 40%
30 minutes cooking time 35%
1 hour cooking time 25%
1.5 hours cooking time 20%
2 hours cooking time 10%
2.5 hours cooking time 5%
I never thought it being this bad.
Alcohol Burn-off Chart
Preparation Method Percent Retained
alcohol added to boiling liquid & removed from heat 85%
alcohol flamed 75%
no heat, stored overnight 70%
baked, 25 minutes, alcohol not stirred into mixture 45%
Baked/simmered dishes with alcohol stirred into mixture:
15 minutes cooking time 40%
30 minutes cooking time 35%
1 hour cooking time 25%
1.5 hours cooking time 20%
2 hours cooking time 10%
2.5 hours cooking time 5%
I never thought it being this bad.
Thanks for these numbers.
I have not used alcohol in food since I stopped drinking, but I have a couple of recipes I do miss a little. It is mostly winter food where beer is part of the recipe, I will probably find alternatives this winter though.
I have not used alcohol in food since I stopped drinking, but I have a couple of recipes I do miss a little. It is mostly winter food where beer is part of the recipe, I will probably find alternatives this winter though.
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Thanks for the numbers...
I avoid food dishes/desserts/candies with alcohol.
My body doesn't discern how the alcohol is taken in so as to process it differently.
For me any introduction of alcohol into my body is cause for great concern...
I avoid food dishes/desserts/candies with alcohol.
My body doesn't discern how the alcohol is taken in so as to process it differently.
For me any introduction of alcohol into my body is cause for great concern...
Here is a helpful list of replacement ingredients for alcohols commonly found in recipes:
Beer or ale: for light ale use chicken broth or white grape juice, for darker ales use beef broth or mushroom stock. Non-alcoholic beer can also be used. In a batter recipe replace beer with soda water.
Red wine: chicken or beef broth, red wine vinegar diluted with water, grape juice mixed with a little red wine vinegar, water or tomato juice. Use 1 Tablespoon red wine vinegar to 1-cup liquid for diluting. Add a tablespoon of sugar for sweet wine.
Amaretto: almond extract
Brandy: use fruit juice with corresponding flavor, for example apricot juice for apricot brandy.
Orange liquor: Frozen orange juice concentrate
Sake: white grape juice with lemon zest or rice vinegar diluted with water
Sherry: orange or pineapple juice
Dry vermouth: white grape juice or white wine vinegar
Sweet vermouth: apple or grape juice or balsamic vinegar
White wine: chicken broth, white wine vinegar diluted with water, ginger ale or white grape juice mixed with a little lemon juice. Use 1 TBSP vinegar or lemon juice to one-cup water or grape juice. Add a tablespoon of sugar for sweet wine.
Kahlua: chocolate extract mixed with espresso powder, coffee syrup or coffee extract
Bourbon: vanilla extract
Rum: rum flavoring or pineapple juice
Frangelico: hazelnut or almond extract
Hard cider: apple juice, sparkling apple juice or cider
Champagne: Sparkling grape juice or ginger ale
Beer or ale: for light ale use chicken broth or white grape juice, for darker ales use beef broth or mushroom stock. Non-alcoholic beer can also be used. In a batter recipe replace beer with soda water.
Red wine: chicken or beef broth, red wine vinegar diluted with water, grape juice mixed with a little red wine vinegar, water or tomato juice. Use 1 Tablespoon red wine vinegar to 1-cup liquid for diluting. Add a tablespoon of sugar for sweet wine.
Amaretto: almond extract
Brandy: use fruit juice with corresponding flavor, for example apricot juice for apricot brandy.
Orange liquor: Frozen orange juice concentrate
Sake: white grape juice with lemon zest or rice vinegar diluted with water
Sherry: orange or pineapple juice
Dry vermouth: white grape juice or white wine vinegar
Sweet vermouth: apple or grape juice or balsamic vinegar
White wine: chicken broth, white wine vinegar diluted with water, ginger ale or white grape juice mixed with a little lemon juice. Use 1 TBSP vinegar or lemon juice to one-cup water or grape juice. Add a tablespoon of sugar for sweet wine.
Kahlua: chocolate extract mixed with espresso powder, coffee syrup or coffee extract
Bourbon: vanilla extract
Rum: rum flavoring or pineapple juice
Frangelico: hazelnut or almond extract
Hard cider: apple juice, sparkling apple juice or cider
Champagne: Sparkling grape juice or ginger ale
Even a cup of wine, added to braising liquid, cooked for an hour and a half or more, only leaves the equivalent of an ounce and a half of wine left in the whole dish of delicious short ribs or chicken breasts. Across 6 servings, that is a tablespoon of wine per serving, if you serve all the braising liquid with the chicken.
I was always more concerned with buying another handle of vodka, than enjoying some sauce with my noodles.
I was always more concerned with buying another handle of vodka, than enjoying some sauce with my noodles.
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I used to make my chicken Marcella recipe but don't use it much now as I started making it more than once a week, I figured my body had a feeling it was there and sending out a want list. My 1st sponsor had about 20 years and would not use mouth wash, after shave lotion, sleep aids or anything without reading the ingredients, which is not a bad idea. BE WELL
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I was going to ask about this the other day, strangely enough.
I haven't made anything that contains for alcohol yet but a few recipes call for a white wine sauce or some red wine. I don't plan on leaving alcohol out of cooking, nor will begin shaking at the sight of Tiramisu, as the amounts are so small and are there purely to enhance flavour.
I haven't made anything that contains for alcohol yet but a few recipes call for a white wine sauce or some red wine. I don't plan on leaving alcohol out of cooking, nor will begin shaking at the sight of Tiramisu, as the amounts are so small and are there purely to enhance flavour.
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Sorry for going off OP here but see this has been brought up:
I don't ingest anything at all with alcohol no matter how small the content...even some chewing gums and toothpastes have alcohol...
Though necessary for injections and IVs I'm not that big with alcohol wipes either'
I avoid hand sanitizer...
this is what I'm comfortable with...I would have the same concerns with narcotics and nicotine. I think my body isn't capable knowing the difference....and I abused mouthwashes and cough syrups too.
I don't ingest anything at all with alcohol no matter how small the content...even some chewing gums and toothpastes have alcohol...
Though necessary for injections and IVs I'm not that big with alcohol wipes either'
I avoid hand sanitizer...
this is what I'm comfortable with...I would have the same concerns with narcotics and nicotine. I think my body isn't capable knowing the difference....and I abused mouthwashes and cough syrups too.
Your body doesn't know the difference between eating alcohol and drinking it.
Frankly I find a dismissive attitude about it kind of insulting.
Would you drink a sip of beer or wine?
Thats basically what you are doing if you consume a meal cooked in alcohol.
This ALONE CAN trigger cravings.
I avoid it, and I personally feel there is no SAFE amount of alcohol.
Frankly I find a dismissive attitude about it kind of insulting.
Would you drink a sip of beer or wine?
Thats basically what you are doing if you consume a meal cooked in alcohol.
This ALONE CAN trigger cravings.
I avoid it, and I personally feel there is no SAFE amount of alcohol.
I started off pretty cavalier - but the more my recovery came to mean to me, the more I felt uncomfortable with eating foods cooked in alcohol - it seemed if not wrong, decidedly odd to me, so I stopped.
It works for me
It works for me
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I worry more about what I drink in a glass than 4 ounces of red wine in 6 quarts of red gravy/pasta sauce when I cook sausage and meatballs.
i'm not really a big marsala fan, but that is a stronger wine dish.
i'm not really a big marsala fan, but that is a stronger wine dish.
Yeah same here.
I never drank because I liked the taste of alcohol, I drank because I wanted the feeling of having it inside me.
I only ever drank to get drunk or get that feeling, otherwise I didn't see the point in drinking at all. I could never go out and just have a pint, i'd have to cram in as much as possible.
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