Length of sobriety: does it matter?
I don't get it Fandy. I wasn't belittling anyone.
I get that you don't like AA and that's fine with me. If you're happy with not drinking one day at a time, my hat's off to you. I wasn't, not even close. Perhaps we drank differently, perhaps we recover differently...maybe both, maybe neither. It really doesn't matter to me.
My comment was that life in sobriety doesn't necessarily get easier. That's my experience and it's the experience of a LOT of the ppl in recovery that I look up to. Does life get "better? -Sure, no question......but not necessarily easier.
It's a simple difference of opinion......differences aren't necessarily attacks. I don't like chocolate ice cream. If you do, and I tell you I don't like it, I'll have vanilla........I'm neither slamming chocolate nor those who like it.
I get that you don't like AA and that's fine with me. If you're happy with not drinking one day at a time, my hat's off to you. I wasn't, not even close. Perhaps we drank differently, perhaps we recover differently...maybe both, maybe neither. It really doesn't matter to me.
My comment was that life in sobriety doesn't necessarily get easier. That's my experience and it's the experience of a LOT of the ppl in recovery that I look up to. Does life get "better? -Sure, no question......but not necessarily easier.
It's a simple difference of opinion......differences aren't necessarily attacks. I don't like chocolate ice cream. If you do, and I tell you I don't like it, I'll have vanilla........I'm neither slamming chocolate nor those who like it.
I think length of time in recovery should matter because hopefully you are growing more and more within yourself. Each year anniversary is satisfying for me personally but the only important "sober goal" I have is that I die w/o ever picking up another drink whether that is today, next year, or 50 yrs from now
My sober time matters to me.
Others' time only matter to the extent that I'm willing to incorporate their experience into my recovery, obviously that would eliminate most people that have little time in recovery.
But they are good reminders, something I read once about the 'gift of desperation', the old timer said that the longer you're sober, the more desperate you have to be.
Others' time only matter to the extent that I'm willing to incorporate their experience into my recovery, obviously that would eliminate most people that have little time in recovery.
But they are good reminders, something I read once about the 'gift of desperation', the old timer said that the longer you're sober, the more desperate you have to be.
At 5 years of sobriety I'm told I'll get my marbles back. At 10 years I'll get to play with them. At 20 I'll learn what to do with them. At 40 years I'll find out they never were really mine to begin with. Today, however, I got up at 6 AM and I am still sober through the Grace of God and the program of AA. That's enough for right now...
"In this life - pain is mandatory - suffering is optional."
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