Is It Possible To Do This On Your Own?
Murray wrote this...
I would be nervous about this practice. I've always felt the "selfish program" deal was ********....yes, we must get ourselves in order, but if we stop there, stagnation is the inevitable result. To me, its like using God as the "bush league pinch-hitter" mentioned in the 12 & 12. What works for me in the long run is daily maintenance. I've failed repeatedly by telling myself all is well, and "I know what to do if things deteriorate". Isolating from others in recovery sets me up for failure because others can see behavioral changes in me that I cannot.
it looked to me like you were saying his practice of just using SR as daily maintenance and only using AA as a last resort was like using God as a "
bush league pinch hitter?!" ....cause that's what it sounded like to me.
You went on to basically say that beyond just getting sober, the alcoholic needed daily AA maintenance or he was isolating from others in recovery and that might set him up for failures because others know him better than himself?? so did i again miss your point?
nowhere did you say"AA is a selfish program". it is indeed. it's a place where you take what you need and leave the rest.
My experience.
No I couldn't manage to stop/stay stopped on my own.
Hell i gave it a good go though........probably 10 years on and off......of shear willpower and grunt......never amounted to much.
Some years ago i came very close to taking my own life.......and i was sober at the time......i couldn't do sober or drunk
I found the solution in the book.. alcoholics anonymous.
But im open minded to other methods.....but have no experience of them myself.
I went the professional route for some time..therapists......mental health clinics......doctors.........none of those helped with my alcoholism either.
No I couldn't manage to stop/stay stopped on my own.
Hell i gave it a good go though........probably 10 years on and off......of shear willpower and grunt......never amounted to much.
Some years ago i came very close to taking my own life.......and i was sober at the time......i couldn't do sober or drunk
I found the solution in the book.. alcoholics anonymous.
But im open minded to other methods.....but have no experience of them myself.
I went the professional route for some time..therapists......mental health clinics......doctors.........none of those helped with my alcoholism either.
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