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Old 09-04-2009, 09:33 AM
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It Has Beaten Me I Am Getting Drunk

Hi All,

First i want to thank you you for all your kind replies to my posts over the last few weeks.

However after 51 days (just over 7 weeks) i think Alcohol has beaten me, i really just want to have a drink and to be honest get DRUNK.

The so called withdrawals (PAWS/Extended withdrawls) have finally driven me crazy enougth to think thats it, i quit, quitting i am going to get drunk and to hell with the anxiety, Stress, worries, twitching, headaches, and you know what yeah they maybe there in the morning but guess what so will my beer and if there is something wrong with me F... I. i will deal with it when it happens, but i will be drunk until then (was always a happy drunk) and happy, not a pain in the arse to be around and moaning all day everyday about my headaches or my twitching and worrying everyone whats wrong with me.

Good Luck You All


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Old 09-04-2009, 09:42 AM
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I haven't got any clever words to stop you from drinking. All I can say is that when I saw your post I said out loud, "oh no" and swore a bit. My girlfriend asked what was wrong and I told her. She didn't know what to say either but looked at me seriously and I could tell she was thinking that if it was me she'd be distraught.

A lot of people have followed your progress, even if they've not written anything. Every single one of them will be saying, "oh no", when they see that you're having a wobble

Please try not to give in.

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...(was always a happy drunk) and happy, not a pain in the arse to be around and moaning all day everyday about my headaches or my twitching and worrying everyone whats wrong with me.
TOO MUCH of a good thing is bad (like alcohol)

TOO MUCH of a bad thing is good (like suffering)

When the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change, change will follow.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:50 AM
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Just give it one more day. Make a vow to yourself and all you hold dear to not get drunk today. You can still go out tomorrow if you feel like it.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:59 AM
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Robbo,

I'm sorry to hear of your struggle, and I hope you manage to see the insanity before you actually pick up that drink.

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However after 51 days (just over 7 weeks) i think Alcohol has beaten me,...
As it always did me. Booze always won. You're just learning what I lot of us had to learn. The only way for me to win was to admit defeat. To know deep down in my heart where the truth lies, that I will never win. Never. One day, drunk and miserable and hopeless, that thought hit me. That I would never win. There was nothing I could do to save myself. Then I became willing to do what others had done to find a power that could save me. I needed a spiritual experience.

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The so called withdrawals (PAWS/Extended withdrawls) have finally driven me crazy...
This might upset some folks, but I don't think too much of the PAWS concept. It gets thrown around on this forum quite a bit, and that's OK. It may have some scientific merit. But it seems to be treated like just hold on and things will get better in time. It will resolve itself if you can hang on long enough.

And that's true, to some extent. Over the course of a couple months, my head cleared a little, my health, legal, social, work, family problems got a little better. But I have to say that for the majority of alcoholics I know, that basic miserable condition does not resolve itself. 7 weeks was about all I could ever stand as well.

There is a large group of recovered alcoholics that believe we are doomed to return to drinking unless we have a fundamental and profound phychic change. Based on their own experience and their observation of others, they believe that simply not drinking and waiting for the PAWS to pass is rarely successful long term.

I see these train wrecks coming in meetings. I listen to a guy share and just know he is headed back out weeks or months before it inevitably happens. I'm not psychic, how would I know that?

Because it shouts from them they are miserable not drinking and have no solution for it. For them, it's just a matter of time. The days don't get better; the PAWS doesn't subside. In fact, the days get worse and worse and they get more and more desperate. They either latch on to the solution that the rest of us have found, or the go back out and drink.

And I'll be honest. There is nothing exclusive about AA's solution. Most of us have found that some kind of profound, fundamental change was necessary. AA just has one time-tested way of bringing about that change. Others have found other ways.

But with few exceptions, something more than not drinking is usually necessary. Again, some folks will get riled with that assertion because they were able to stop and be happy by just not drinking. All you have to ask yourself is how is that approach working for you?
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:03 AM
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robbo...of course you "want" to get drunk...if you didn't want to get drunk alcohol would not be an issue. The bottom line is do you want to be sober...it would seem at the moment you don't. Maintaining sobriety takes hard work...you have to learn how to live a whole new life, one that never includes alcohol.....even when you "want" to get drunk. The choice is yours...you are armed with the facts about what alcohol will and has done to you. If you refuse to fight you will never win. I wish you all the best.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:10 AM
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Totally agree with keithj.

IMO, When you are ready, you will do it...i met a great guy with 'PAWS', he hasn't drunk for 7 years and was totally miserable, couldn't hold down a job, no relationship, no money, no hope for the future...he's started working the steps for the third time...this time i think he will be a bit more honest and listen though...he tried it his way!

I've been through what you are going through soooooooooo many times...before i got down to AA...wow, thanks for reminding me...i don't want to do it again!

Do have some hope though Robbo when you are wallowing in the guilt and remourse, there is a solution for this you know:-)
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:12 AM
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Ok, all my best but it'll all come back, it'll all keep coming back.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:12 AM
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Lot of heartfelt posts. All I can say,

Living sober sucks... But living drunk sucks even more. You're chances of living a rewarding life are far better sober than drunk.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:22 AM
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physical symptoms and your doctors not very helful.


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Old 09-04-2009, 11:42 AM
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Well.. no lecture here.

Every drink I drank was my choice.. as it is yours.

We'll be here if you come back.
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Lot of heartfelt posts. All I can say,

Living sober sucks... But living drunk sucks even more. You're chances of living a rewarding life are far better sober than drunk.

Living sober does not suck - not for me. I wouldn't be in this deal if it sucked. I'm living a life I never thought possible.

Robbo, I hope you make it back. There is a solution.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:50 AM
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Know how you feel, Robbo..
Feel like that myself a lot of times.
Instant relief of all worries and pains and anxiety in the fridge,
l just hope you think about this before you do anything you will regret later.
Be safe.


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Old 09-04-2009, 11:59 AM
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I feel for you... then and now. You're not the first who thought they needed to take a break from sobriety.

Just be safe and come back soon
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Originally Posted by robbo78 View Post
Hi All,

First i want to thank you you for all your kind replies to my posts over the last few weeks.

However after 51 days (just over 7 weeks) i think Alcohol has beaten me, i really just want to have a drink and to be honest get DRUNK.

The so called withdrawals (PAWS/Extended withdrawls) have finally driven me crazy enougth to think thats it, i quit, quitting i am going to get drunk and to hell with the anxiety, Stress, worries, twitching, headaches, and you know what yeah they maybe there in the morning but guess what so will my beer and if there is something wrong with me F... I. i will deal with it when it happens, but i will be drunk until then (was always a happy drunk) and happy, not a pain in the arse to be around and moaning all day everyday about my headaches or my twitching and worrying everyone whats wrong with me.

Good Luck You All


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Alcohol wasn't my doc (ICE) but it took me several years for my body to heal and figure out it didn't need to function without it. If you keep going back your body gets confused. I was not sure if I would ever feel normal, happy or like the same girl I was before I did my first line. But I refused to use no matter what. Be patient with yourself, be careful of the messages you are telling yourself. If you keep telling yourself that alcohol beat you, your brain believes it, it believes what we tell it. Change your thinking to I beat alcohol and you will start to believe it.

Good luck, keep coming back no matter what!

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Old 09-04-2009, 01:04 PM
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Don't do it. You have made it this far. Your body and mind want alcohol back and they are doing everything they can to make you give in. This is even what my neurologist told me--he said my BFS and anxiety symptoms were psychological rather than physical in nature. Don't let it beat you. You are probably very close to getting past the worst. If you start drinking again, you will be starting the clock over again on the symptoms if you ever stop drinking again. In my case 3 months I felt better. For you it might be 4, 5, or 6. That is not that long! It just seems like it.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:33 PM
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:33 PM
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Robbo, I've been away from a computer for most of the day. All I can say is PLEASE reconsider.

I've been following your posts since I joined about a month ago. I've gotten similar overpowering urges to go back to the beer, but these feelings ALWAYS pass.

Whatever you decide, just remember we'll always be here for you.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:38 PM
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Wishing you peace to overcome this and hopefully you'll make the right choice robbo.

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Old 09-04-2009, 01:54 PM
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"PLEASE reconsider" Ditto that. I'm on day 37 this time. I also try not to judge. It really is a choice as best I can figure out. If I makes you happy... do it. Just be responsible and don't drink and drive etc. Not preaching; just throwing in my personal experience (with myself ). 51 days and the medical screening you willed yourself to do seem to me a tragic waste.
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