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Old 07-25-2009, 03:28 AM
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I need advice from an alcoholic/recovered alcoholic

I am seeking the advice from a recovered alcoholic or an alcoholic.
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My partner is an alcoholic who has severe binges drinking up to 1500ml of straight vodka in 24 hours. I feel as though during this time he is very selfish, he could not be there for me at all no matter what the situation during these binges, whether it be a friend, or a protective male partner.
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My question is, when an alcoholic is in the middle of a massive binge do they still have the appreciation to know what is right and what is wrong? Does my partner still appreciate that he is hurting me and that i am suffering? Does he have the ability to think...i need to stop drinking and get someone to take me to the doctors?? As i have said in a previous post, his binges sometimes last up to 4 weeks and they always end by me dragging him to the doctor. he has it in his head that he is weining off and sleeping it off. the only problem is that he needs to drink to get to sleep.
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Can someone who has had a similar experience to my partner please attempt to explain to me what goes through the mind and even if there is an ability to make decisions this deeply intoxicated...will the viscious cicle end without my interviening??
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What was going through my mind when I was active in addiction was "all I want to do is drink". When I was at work I was planning out what I was going to buy and how much. I looked forward to drinking. It was all I cared about...getting my next fix.

In my experience no one could get me to quit. I had to want to quit and I had to make the effort to stop and stay stopped.

Please take care of yourself, want2help. You can take care of yourself. That is the one thing you do have control over.
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I need advice from an alcoholic/recovered alcoholic

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I am seeking the advice from a recovered alcoholic or an alcoholic.
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My partner is an alcoholic who has severe binges drinking up to 1500ml of straight vodka in 24 hours. I feel as though during this time he is very selfish, he could not be there for me at all no matter what the situation during these binges, whether it be a friend, or a protective male partner.
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My question is, when an alcoholic is in the middle of a massive binge do they still have the appreciation to know what is right and what is wrong? Does my partner still appreciate that he is hurting me and that i am suffering? Does he have the ability to think...i need to stop drinking and get someone to take me to the doctors?? As i have said in a previous post, his binges sometimes last up to 4 weeks and they always end by me dragging him to the doctor. he has it in his head that he is weining off and sleeping it off. the only problem is that he needs to drink to get to sleep.
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Can someone who has had a similar experience to my partner please attempt to explain to me what goes through the mind and even if there is an ability to make decisions this deeply intoxicated...will the viscious cicle end without my interviening??
To answer: No. No. And no.

Nothing went through my mind when I was that f'd up.. nothing. Obviously not my own well being, how could I care about anyone elses?

If he's drinking like that.. and has no plans to quit, the cycle will likely end when his body decides for it to.

I drank vodka too. Not even close to that much, and my hubby called an ambulance on me because I was drunk at noon, and come to find out my blood alcohol level was almost twice that of what can cause death. I was up walking and talking and 'functioning' and on the verge of dying. If he hadn't have called, I would be dead now. I drank again 3 weeks after that, and drank until it almost happened again.

Nothing you do will get him to stop. If he doesn't decide on his own, something else will.

You can choose to watch it happen, or step away... I hope he comes to some realization about his life, before it's too late. That's the only direction he's headed.. it sounds 'negative', but it is. Chronic alcohol abuse is fatal if untreated.
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I can't add anything that Bamboozle and Smacked haven't already said, other than even if you do intervene, the vicious cycle is going to continue unless your partner makes the decision to stop.
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Sadly your options are very limited unless your partner decides he wants the help. :sorry
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:00 AM
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Have you considered a formal intervention? They can be powerful if you have multiple family members and close friends.

As a co-dependent, you have to set boundaries and live up to them. An intervention can be an effective way of communicating your boundaries, not to mention getting your partner into a rehab program.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:59 AM
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I am so sorry. But the truth is, if you are being thought of at all, it is probably with regards to how you can help his addiction.
Yes, the truth is, there is NOTHING that you can do until he decides that he is done.
But what smacked shared was very powerful. If you feel he can die, please call for medical help.
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Simply, no. Alcoholics suffer from compulsive, obsessive cravings of the mind. The only thing they are thinking is of drinking and drinking more.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:40 AM
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The sad truth is that anyone who drinks that much that fast is in effect placing a 5 lb. magnet next to their compass. I would recommend looking at:

Friends and Family of Alcoholics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information
Welcome to Al-Anon and Alateen
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:05 PM
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To answer: No. No. And no.

Nothing went through my mind when I was that f'd up.. nothing. Obviously not my own well being, how could I care about anyone elses?

If he's drinking like that.. and has no plans to quit, the cycle will likely end when his body decides for it to.

I drank vodka too. Not even close to that much, and my hubby called an ambulance on me because I was drunk at noon, and come to find out my blood alcohol level was almost twice that of what can cause death. I was up walking and talking and 'functioning' and on the verge of dying. If he hadn't have called, I would be dead now. I drank again 3 weeks after that, and drank until it almost happened again.

Nothing you do will get him to stop. If he doesn't decide on his own, something else will.

You can choose to watch it happen, or step away... I hope he comes to some realization about his life, before it's too late. That's the only direction he's headed.. it sounds 'negative', but it is. Chronic alcohol abuse is fatal if untreated.

thats really scarey, i called the ambulance on two seperate occassions howeve he only refused service and laughed.
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:10 PM
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now i am even more scared. we have done everything possible that a family can do. doctors, hospitals, rehab, inpatient, outpatient, staying with him, abandoning him, hiding his money, leaving him his money.....you name it, he has tried it, we have tried it. My head is spinning, i dont want to just wait until he dies. this is really not fair on the people that love and care for him.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:03 AM
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Feeling very soft in the middle at the moment want2. I can't understand what your going through but I do understand him. I have more in common with him than I do with you

Al anon maybe helpful
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im not fond of discussing someone elses drinking...unless it with the drinker himself...
Can you get him/her to come to sr.........?
or AA..?
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You cannot save him. He's making choices that don't seem fair to you, but all you can do is try to work on YOUR recovery. A lot of people unfortunately lose loved ones before they are ever ready to make a change.. please just take care of yourself, he's making his choice in life very very clear.

I'll reiterate what I have said.. you can set some boundaries and live for YOU and your life, or you can sit by and watch him go whichever way he wants. Yes, it's scary.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:44 AM
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A recovered alcoholic is a miracle;an act of God...

I will pray that your loved one finds a miracle and, also for you to realize that it is not up to you to change him which is also a miracle.

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Old 07-28-2009, 04:01 PM
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With me personally.. (and being married for a while).. I never really did anything to bother or hurt my wife.. And I was drinking atleast 750 ml a day.. However, on occasion, I might say some stupid **** or do something that I could not recall (typical blackouts).. and what would be worse is when she would tell me about it.. I couldn't remember..

So.. What I can say is he's probably an ******* sober or drunk..
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I just came from a Three Week 24/7 Blackout Binge that ended April 7. I was drinking 1.5 liters of Gin per day and kept my BAC up in the .32+ range at all times (I had a breathalizer to test it). When in that state Physical, Mental, and Spiritual deterioration occur at a rapid and accelerating rate.

For a period of 5 days I wasn't eating at all, or sleeping (passing out maybe), and completely isolated myself and did nothing but drink. I didn't know what time or day it was or where I was at. Thoughts of myself or others were non existent. Only obtaining and consuming alcohol meant anything at all.

For me the suffering eventually became unbearable and I took the steps to get sober. Not everybody will reach that Rock Bottom at the same time or in the same way or even at all. However until I realized on my own that I couldn't stand it anymore, there was nothing anyone could do to get me to stop drinking.

There is Zero percent chance that an Alcoholics drinking problem will ever improve from it's worst point. It always gets worse. Never get's better. It is a sad and tragic disease. The good news is once drinking is completely stopped, the brain and body have a remarkable ability to bounce back and recover. It takes time, dedication, and work but the rewards are limitless.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:27 AM
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so can you help me get inside his head? I want to understand, please, tell me more...
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:35 PM
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want2help-

have you been over to the 'friends and family' forums?

I think you'd benefit from reading these people's experiences,
and there's sone over there who run as an impeccable program
as any I've read.

I hope you'll drop by over there, hon.

There's a wealth of wisdom and recovery over there
I feel you can benefit from right away.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by barb dwyer View Post
want2help-

have you been over to the 'friends and family' forums?

I think you'd benefit from reading these people's experiences,
and there's sone over there who run as an impeccable program
as any I've read.

I hope you'll drop by over there, hon.

There's a wealth of wisdom and recovery over there
I feel you can benefit from right away.

I have to agree with Barb! Has helped me immensely in the almost-three-weeks i've been a member. Thank you everyone and keep the posts coming!
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