Five

For good protection against mystical manipulators, energetic gurus, health warnings, horific predictions, ignorance, and people who want to change your beliefs read this:

http://www.rogerdarlington.co.uk/thinking.html

Practised deligently, it has made my mind a lot clearer.

It can be used to challange your own BELIEFS about yourself. Most of my beliefs about myself dont stand up to the evidence at all...i.e I am sexy mofo who is gonna save the world. just not going to happen...

equus

What's a mofo? Sounds like a name for a cuddly gremlin!!

I remember a thingy I read yonks ago on how to obey essay titles - the difference between 'Critically Evaluate....' and 'Discuss...'

I'm reading a book at the mo on the philosophies behind news headlines and it's bloody brilliant!! I've only been reading it while I'm on the loo though so it's taking a while. The upside being I got chance to digest each part before a return visit (pun totally intended)!

Five

lolmfad

or what ever the abbreviation is for "very funny". Eq having a poo.

Five

a muther *** you know the rest...

equus

I fart too much too - but have always thought both are a sign of good health (not to mention a source of humour!!).

I'm going to stick with mofo being a cuddly gremlin if that's ok?

SaTiT

Oki doki.....the earth can make an orbit around the sun.
So whatever kil or miles that is.

But dosen't galaxies also rotate and is constant motion and is
also moving at an extreem velocity.
Some how do we actaully know fhow ast we're really traveling ?
We never come back to the same place or occupy the same space.

oki doki...Einstien came up with a theory and an mathematic equation
You belive that and accept that.
The truth is he never left planet earth. What evidence did he had ???

We measure time and space through stectrum of light

We are all ceptiable
what we accept is okay or that's what everybody else belief or is the norm.
what we don't accept is wrong or manipulations.
Recovery is keeping an openmind and is also learning how to think
for ourselve. So how many experts have you belive and agree
with beucase that's what you belive in ?
Or can you draw you own conclusion just by looking at
your own figer print...Did you created or designed that ???
Are you capiable of such miracle ?

Of course many belive tha man would never fly
The earth was belived and accepted to be flat and was the center
of the univers and sun rotates around the earth.

Da vinci was deem a freanken Maniac and was under house arrest
until he deid, becuase society at the time couldn't and wouldn't
accept new ideas.

SaTiT

So when a physician share his story before he got sober.
How he had a patient on an operation table under the knife.
But the doctor was so freaken whacked out of his mind.
He couldn't even keep in hands steady becuase he was so drunk.
Yet he pray at that moment for help so he wouldn't kill the patient.
And he still can't recall or can remember how he manage to perform
such an operation. He was in a fog.
That experiece was life changing for the doctor. He got sober.
He never belive in god before. What proof or evident did he had to
show me other then speaking his truth.

I either accept it or I didn't.
And if I did accept it...was it beucase he was speaking his truth
or i was more incline to belive such notions becuase he had title
of being a M.D. Or maybe I can see F2F in his eyes that he was
speaking his truth.

Even if I didn't accept such matter, would it still change his
truth ?

So what it all comes down to ...it's still my percetions,
my belief, my views of what everything is. What I'm willing
to accept and what I'm not willing to accept. my morals

and of course I'm awear enough to know there plenty of sick
peaple in this world that would take advantage of peaple in a
heartbeat. And it helps if I should remain sober to be able to
sort the good from the bad.

So..you feel the need to go out and shop, buy a new car,
new house, new computers, new toys, claim to the top
of the later ?....Are you sure you are not being manipulated
in some type of fashion ? But is normal and acceptable to
society at large.

So why is it Anonyminty....has society at large accepted
alcoholism ?? or the general perceptions still that of
a whine-no bum in dark alley. Why is it so many need recovery
and don't get into recovery ?? El stima
And what was your preception of alcoholism before you enter AA ??
Mystical BS........I take it.

equus

None, you can critically evaluate that it was a good story - most likely told with purpose to be helpful. However to assume no exageration has taken place, to be certain that all parts of it were remembered accurately, or even that it was purely addiction rather than panic he may kill someone causing the shakes - well that is up to the listener. It's the listerner that decides how much weight to give what element - it's purpose, it's accuracy, it's interest, it's usefullness.

In learning to think critically we learn to understand the how and why we give one thing more weight in our minds than another.

The issue isn't what someone else requires for evidence - it's understanding what we require and why that counts.