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Old 02-18-2019, 08:11 PM
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Desperate to get dry...

... but terrified of the anxiety/insomnia I know I am prone to. I want to keep my job and home ideally as well (currently I'm off sick from work for mental health issues which is kind of true and kind of a half-truth). I feel so much weight on my shoulders right now. And I can hardly sleep with the sickness of (mostly booze-related) anxiety. Sorry for the negativity. It's just where I'm at right now.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:49 PM
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Tetrax - you know the longer you put it off the more the anxiety and insomnia.
If quitting's really worrying you why not see a Dr?

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Old 02-18-2019, 09:25 PM
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My current doctor only sees patients 9-11am. My asleep time. And I'm too hungover in the afternoons to look into changing this. But my new plan is I've asked my mum to go stay with her in the countryside for a bit. And probably drive me to AA meetings.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:34 PM
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If you're desperate to stop, I reckon you could make a 9-11am appointment - it's not that much of an ask.

Hope the mum thing works out tho


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Old 02-18-2019, 09:37 PM
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I know what you're saying but it's a whole lot easier said than done when you're up all night drinking and can only finally grasp even the concept of sleep around sunrise. And knowing you'd have to get on a bus for 20 minutes with normal people, without any sleep. And stinking of booze...
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Hi Tetrax

Your anxiety etc will be a hundred times worse because of the alcohol, when you remove it and learn some coping skills it will be so much better. Get yourself up and go to the doctors, you will never see those people on the bus again, it doesn't matter what they think. The most important thing is getting some help and getting sober

I really hope it works out.
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:00 PM
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I know how you are feeling. I am only 17 days sober so I was in your position a couple weeks ago. I didn't sleep for the first 5 days at all. The anxiety was too intense. I didn't leave the house for days. But I knew what to expect and just went for it. Use your time off work to detox yourself. It's hard, I know, but you have to sober up sometime, right?
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:03 PM
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Canuck, I have to say, I like your style. I think you were the one who told me to 'bite the bullet' a few days ago. It's so true. And just good to hear that you can survive a few nights of anxiety and zero sleep. I know I've gotta do it and I'm just procrastinating. What else is there to say?
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:50 AM
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What else is there to say?

I'd add one thing: in your title, you say you are desperate to stop- but in your posts you make excuses why you can't.

You have to match up no drinking with actions to support that.

Up to you.
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:23 AM
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We have free health care here in the UK. It is a blessing especially when I read posts from our friends in the US who do not have free health care.

Please use the facility and see your doc to save your life. Seriously, if you don't it won't be long before you lose your job and your home and possibly your life.
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:38 AM
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I bet the voice inside telling you that you are not really unwell is wrong. I have been there. Reached breaking point with stress, went off sick from work and was extremely anxious and very distorted in my thinking, but convinced that I wasn't really ill and that I would be 'found out' and punished for bunking off.

It wasn't true. Everyone could see that I was unwell.

You need this time. Use it well. You can do this.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:41 AM
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I know what you're saying but it's a whole lot easier said than done when you're up all night drinking and can only finally grasp even the concept of sleep around sunrise. And knowing you'd have to get on a bus for 20 minutes with normal people, without any sleep. And stinking of booze...
Cmon man - that defence might work with some people, but it's not gonna fly with many of us here.

If I needed a beer I didn't care how tired I was or what I smelt like.
I got the bus - and I did just that - many times.

It's not a valid excuse for not seeing a Dr, especially as you've said you're desperate to stop.

It's a classic alcoholics loop - I can't stop drinking cos I'm scared of withdrawal but I can't see a doctor about help for withdrawal cos it'll interfere with my drinking the night before.

result - you keep drinking....

It's gonna hurt to stop Tetrax - but it'll hurt more and more the longer you keep putting it off.

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Old 02-19-2019, 04:04 AM
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Quitting drinking is not a free ride. If you are in great fear of going to the doctor there are things you can do to ease that feeling. You need to not drink the night before which means having to deal with the insomnia and stress, but that is the deal. Somebody in AA or another meeting will probably agree to go with you to the doctor's office if you put that out there, so you will not be alone and you'll have somebody to help you see it through and to provide assurance that it's going to be okay. Your only requirement is to be present for a while. I have no idea what the doctor will say or do for you, but neither do any of us (nor you) until you go. I would attend a meeting after the appointment if possible to help you not to drink and go home for some sleep. If you are off work for a period this is when you should be using that time to care for yourself instead of drinking.
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Its been said many times, but eventually we need to stop digging. Sounds like you are in deep. Medical detox an option? Sleep eludes us during withdrawals, anxiety is horrible. Wish you the best.
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... but terrified of the anxiety/insomnia I know I am prone to. I want to keep my job and home ideally as well (currently I'm off sick from work for mental health issues which is kind of true and kind of a half-truth). I feel so much weight on my shoulders right now. And I can hardly sleep with the sickness of (mostly booze-related) anxiety. Sorry for the negativity. It's just where I'm at right now.
The insomnia was my biggest fear of getting sober. I know how miserable it feels, and it made me want to just take a few shots right before bed to knock myself out. You'll have sleepless nights, and they will be awful, but then you'll find yourself sleeping better than ever. Dreams are one big adventure now. You'll get there!
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:19 PM
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here's the thing Tetrax....
Insomnia is not fatal.
Drinking most certain can be.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:44 PM
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... but terrified of the anxiety/insomnia I know I am prone to. I want to keep my job and home ideally as well (currently I'm off sick from work for mental health issues which is kind of true and kind of a half-truth). I feel so much weight on my shoulders right now. And I can hardly sleep with the sickness of (mostly booze-related) anxiety. Sorry for the negativity. It's just where I'm at right now.
The initial anxiety/insomnia associated with withdrawals is nothing short of terrifying.

But you can post here as you go through it.

You can binge watch a show.

You can see a doctor or detox clinic for others ways to responsibly ease your anxiety/sleep deprivation.

Either way, you can do it -- and it'll all be for the better. You can do it .

I don't envy anyone who has to go through withdrawals, but it's so worth it when you come out the other end of that tunnel.
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You either want to get sober or you don't. If you truly want to get sober you'll do whatever it takes. If you don't really want to get sober, you'll keep making excuses as to why you can't.
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Here's what you have to do Tetrax. Go a day without booze and stay awake the whole night if you cannot sleep. Having stayed awake for a night continue to stay awake during the following daytime and i'm certain you will fall asleep in no time the following evening and you will avoid the booze cravings on doing so.

Ater that, force yourself to get up early and be active, it really will help you sleep at night and help you overcome the cravings.

It's not a particularly sophisticated method but it really helped me who like you was afraid to be sober and awake at night.

Good luck!
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:31 PM
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Hi Tetrax.. I too am off work with stress at the moment and have used the time to detox. Very twitchy & anxious for the first 2 weeks , after having drank every night for probably the last 20 years. . Just think, at least you don't have to go to work at the moment with that added stress, & having to pretend you're ok. Staying with your mother might be good idea if it takes you away from the surroundings & other things that you associate with drinking. Good luck 😊
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