Statistics on Sobriety?
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Originally Posted by Dee74 
If there were such statistics I'm sure someone would challenge them 
I'm of the belief the only stats that really matter to me are my own - 100% success since I started to give 100% effort
Everytime I hear that I think someone's AV wrote that line
relapse was part of my addiction...it was a sign that I wasn't quite achieving escape velocity from my addiction, and that I needed to do more.
Relapse is not a part of my recovery
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I'm of the belief the only stats that really matter to me are my own - 100% success since I started to give 100% effort
Everytime I hear that I think someone's AV wrote that line
relapse was part of my addiction...it was a sign that I wasn't quite achieving escape velocity from my addiction, and that I needed to do more.
Relapse is not a part of my recovery
D
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Joe I am a fan of statistics but if I were to look into all those things AV would try to hit me over the head with them so I give him no ammunition.
The one statistic that matters to me is that zero drinks equals 100% sobriety, it's a winning formula.
The one statistic that matters to me is that zero drinks equals 100% sobriety, it's a winning formula.
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I have not been drunk since I quit drinking. That's 100% success but some days I have to give about 132%--maybe to make up for those "coasting" days (pinkclouds). Hmmm.....TDG, nice to see you contribute.
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From a small sample of ten, my rehab group. Two went to AA immediately after rehab and are still sober today, 36 years later.
The rest of us did not go to AA, we all drank agiain.
One year later I went to AA and never drank again. By this time the other seven were all dead..
So this small sample over a period of 36 years success rate was:
Rehab: 30%
AA: 100%
Self help:0%
Please be aware that these are all hopeless end stage alcoholics which is quite different to the broader alcohol use disorder categories. I saw some recent research showing 30% of those with alcohol use disorder will recover without any medical or other intervention. Obviously these are not end stage alcoholics who would have died without medical help.
On general AA statistics none exist as no surveys about success rates are ever taken. However I have seen researchers describe indications of AA success rates found in the foreword to the second edition of the AA big book, as a reasonably good educated guess. Though only an educated guess, when taken in full context, it is remarkably close to the results I observe within my own personal sphere of AA activity.
The rest of us did not go to AA, we all drank agiain.
One year later I went to AA and never drank again. By this time the other seven were all dead..
So this small sample over a period of 36 years success rate was:
Rehab: 30%
AA: 100%
Self help:0%
Please be aware that these are all hopeless end stage alcoholics which is quite different to the broader alcohol use disorder categories. I saw some recent research showing 30% of those with alcohol use disorder will recover without any medical or other intervention. Obviously these are not end stage alcoholics who would have died without medical help.
On general AA statistics none exist as no surveys about success rates are ever taken. However I have seen researchers describe indications of AA success rates found in the foreword to the second edition of the AA big book, as a reasonably good educated guess. Though only an educated guess, when taken in full context, it is remarkably close to the results I observe within my own personal sphere of AA activity.
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I used to study statistics. Due to the nature of stigmas around alcohol abuse I expect any serious study will have some skewing of results. All I know is there are many people on this board who have successfully become sober.
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