wpainterw

What should be important for me is "Now". Not what used to be ("The Good Old Days!") or what might happen in the Future ("What If...?"). The past is over. The future is yet to come. No one can resurrect the past. And who can tell what may happen later? As for the "Now", some of that one may seek to control, particularly oneself, but there are things beyond my control and seeking to change them only adds to my troubles. Seeking to change what can be changed can only be done gradually ("One step at a time"), with patience ("Easy does it!") and even there the outcome is uncertain.
Are these all "euphemisms"? Trite? If so they were known over two thousand years ago. Persons far wiser than I observed them. Only out of pride, conceit, do we reject them.

W.

P.S. The title of this thread should read "The Importance of Now"- not "The Importance if Now". Apparently this is something I "cannot change". The title of the thread illustrates its meaning! The ways of the SoberRecovery site are mysterious and enlightened indeed!

McTim

Fear of the future... Boy do I know this one. I am convinced I am going to drink again. Thus, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I understand "living in the moment" I just don't know how to do it.

trachemys

Hey painter. I'm gonna mess with you a little bit.

"Now" doesn't exist. I once proved this logically to a group of physicists.

If time is a line, with direction and constant movement, then "now" is a point on that line. We all know that data points have no duration, no existence other than mention. So, "now" is a nonexistent concept trying to make duration where none exists.

We exist in a flow. We decide where the flow goes. Make your flow to the light, not to the darkness.

Soberwolf

By decades by years by year by months by month by days by 24h by 12h by 1h by 1 minute by 1

I stay sober by acceptance that i simply cant drink safely or responsibly i dont miss drinking at all

theres lots of things to help us stay sober (Mc tim) http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...-recovery.html

Crying Out Now: Thanksgiving Survival Guide

and W painter sometimes the site experiences glitches its happened to one of my threads when i couldnt edit a typo

JanieJ

Painter, I've always tried to live with "be here now".
It's all we ever have.

Wolf, I love your new signature pic.


Trach, don't mess with my head ,man !!! Anyway, I disagree. I' m sitting on the sofa now. I can prove it

trachemys

You were sitting on the sofa....then.

Mac1

I sat on my sofa a lot. Got drunk on it. Slept on it too.
It hasn't seen as much of me since I sobered up

wpainterw

Thanks so much. That's not the way I was trained in the Navy. Cause in the Navy they say, "Now hear this!!!"
Stay sober-the Navy way!!

W.

wpainterw

Thanks Janie, for calling me your head man. When I was a kid in school they called me "The Head" because they thought my head was too big. Another of my names was "Size 12". "There goes "Size Twelve"! They'd say, because they thought that my hat size was that big.
Have a Size 12 Holiday now!

W.

Hevyn

W - you're in rare form today.

This was a timely post. I've been whining about the holidays not being the same as the one's I used to have. Well, of course they aren't. They can still be good in a different way though. It's accepting what we have in front of us - with grace - that helps us get by and not be resentful.

OklaBH

thats deep and Im NOW confused

Hevyn

My head hurts Now Trach.

trachemys

Trust me, some of the stuff I read gives me headaches, too. But, I love the pain. Contemplating reality is a reward unto itself.

Dee74

I fixed the title. You can edit titles for up to 15 mins too - simply press 'edit' then 'go advanced'

D

wpainterw

Correction. I just spotted a comma between "head" and "man" in Janie's message so I was wrong. I guess I'm not Janie's "head man" and that she was saying, "Man, don't mess with my head". It just goes to show that I do have a swelled head! This is not a "character defect" It's a physical defect. And even Tiny Tim ("God bless us everyone!") couldn't get his Higher Power to "remove" his physical defect. But then again, it was part of his routine, the crutch routine that is. Was Scrooge Tiny Tim's Higher Power? He did end up sending around a turkey- or was that a goose. And he gave Bob Cratchet a day off.

W.

awuh1

trachemys, time does not have constant movement. Einstein showed us that time is relative to the speed of the observer. As an observer speeds up, time slows down. It slows down until the speed of light is reached (the cosmic speed limit). At the speed of light, time stops, at which point the time-is-a-line analogy breaks down.

I agree. Now, if I could only understand it.

10 to the −43 seconds

trachemys

awuh, to the observor, time does not change.

awuh1

Yes, to the observer. Hence Maya.

trachemys

So, if I, as the observer, approach the SOL, I don't notice any change. Right?

wpainterw

Ah give me a break! As I approach the speed of light, Einstein says my mass approaches infinity and my body becomes two dimensional. Thus I become a two dimensional plane of infinite mass. O.K. So what has this to do with sobriety? If I'm an alcoholic drunk what does it matter that I'm an alcoholic two dimensional drunk of infinite mass. Will they still let me into AA meetings?

W.