Not sure if I am welcome here.
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Not sure if I am welcome here.
Hello, call me mud,
I've recently relapsed for a month or two after 15 months of solo abstinence.
I am a complete atheist and have zero interest in anyone's religiosity.
I've binged drank on an off since the age of 15. I am now 28.
It's at the point now that I either will hand over my mind and liver to the drink or change my ways and represent the truths that I claim to hold as important.
I smoke pot around twenty times per year and I have no interest in changing that pattern. The drunk me is full of rage and resentment for how I've been wronged in life, the stoned me feels at one with the universe. The alter ego's are complete opposites.
It is not so much "sobriety" that I seek but complete abstinence from alcohol.
I wish to make manifest my will to not drink alcohol ever again.
Take care, thanks for reading this.
I've recently relapsed for a month or two after 15 months of solo abstinence.
I am a complete atheist and have zero interest in anyone's religiosity.
I've binged drank on an off since the age of 15. I am now 28.
It's at the point now that I either will hand over my mind and liver to the drink or change my ways and represent the truths that I claim to hold as important.
I smoke pot around twenty times per year and I have no interest in changing that pattern. The drunk me is full of rage and resentment for how I've been wronged in life, the stoned me feels at one with the universe. The alter ego's are complete opposites.
It is not so much "sobriety" that I seek but complete abstinence from alcohol.
I wish to make manifest my will to not drink alcohol ever again.
Take care, thanks for reading this.
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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go away, I mean go away with yourself man. EVERYONE IS WELCOME HERE. They even took me.
mud, there is quite a variety of folks here for a variety or reasons. The one thing we all have in common is that we want to stop harming ourselves. If this is you, then welcome.
It doesn't matter what your beliefs or non-beliefs are. The only thing you must believe in is that you need to do something to make your life better.
mud, there is quite a variety of folks here for a variety or reasons. The one thing we all have in common is that we want to stop harming ourselves. If this is you, then welcome.
It doesn't matter what your beliefs or non-beliefs are. The only thing you must believe in is that you need to do something to make your life better.
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Welcome to the forum Mud.
Being religious is not a requirement here or for any recovery. There is many non religious support systems. I am 31 and had the same vicious cycle since about 14 or 15 also. I had 90 days and fell off but am back. I can relate a lot to you. I consider myself more agnostic. However, I really do like the serenity prayer or daily affirmation whatever you want to call it. Really helps me put my addiction and life into perspective.
Give us the serenity to accept what cannot be changed,
The courage to change what can be changed,
and the wisdom to know the one from the other.
Check out AVRT or SMART. AA is good even if you are not religious. Wish you the best with your program.
Being religious is not a requirement here or for any recovery. There is many non religious support systems. I am 31 and had the same vicious cycle since about 14 or 15 also. I had 90 days and fell off but am back. I can relate a lot to you. I consider myself more agnostic. However, I really do like the serenity prayer or daily affirmation whatever you want to call it. Really helps me put my addiction and life into perspective.
Give us the serenity to accept what cannot be changed,
The courage to change what can be changed,
and the wisdom to know the one from the other.
Check out AVRT or SMART. AA is good even if you are not religious. Wish you the best with your program.
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Welcome, mudfall.
Really, every "program" is yours to do as you wish. No one has the right to tell you how to do your sobriety/abstinence/whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
Hang around here, you don't even need a formal program. Lots of people (me included) use a variety of tools and a little bit from a lot of sources. People have stopped drinking for eons. It's not rocket surgery
I just don't drink alcohol. Simples.
Really, every "program" is yours to do as you wish. No one has the right to tell you how to do your sobriety/abstinence/whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
Hang around here, you don't even need a formal program. Lots of people (me included) use a variety of tools and a little bit from a lot of sources. People have stopped drinking for eons. It's not rocket surgery
I just don't drink alcohol. Simples.
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Mud,
Its your life and program. If you want to smoke pot 20 times a year its your choice. (no judgment by me) However, if alcohol is killing you then the best thing to do is to stay away for good. I just hope you don't let the pot become a gateway back to drinking.
Its your life and program. If you want to smoke pot 20 times a year its your choice. (no judgment by me) However, if alcohol is killing you then the best thing to do is to stay away for good. I just hope you don't let the pot become a gateway back to drinking.
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Welcome mudfall - glad to meet you.
I drank all my life & felt instantly relieved when I joined this group. Finally I had people to talk to who really understood - no one in my life could relate. Not feeling alone was very important & I found the courage I needed to quit.
I drank all my life & felt instantly relieved when I joined this group. Finally I had people to talk to who really understood - no one in my life could relate. Not feeling alone was very important & I found the courage I needed to quit.
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Welcome to the board, Mudfall. I am a mess, yet I am welcome here and so thankful. I have become a collector of sober days - sometimes as many as 20 or as few as 1 or 2.. or none. 
What seems to matter most here is the fervent DESIRE to be sober. I believe and am a quiet Christian but love and accept everyone as they are and look forward to sharing our common concerns and painful addictions. You are so not alone.
What seems to matter most here is the fervent DESIRE to be sober. I believe and am a quiet Christian but love and accept everyone as they are and look forward to sharing our common concerns and painful addictions. You are so not alone.
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It's fine to be an atheist here at SR
I was atheist at 28 too.
I'm not anymore though and I have stopped drinking and drugging.
I swapped one for the other and IMHO.... It's pretty darn wonderful.
Your mileage may vary.
Welcome.
I was atheist at 28 too.
I'm not anymore though and I have stopped drinking and drugging.
I swapped one for the other and IMHO.... It's pretty darn wonderful.
Your mileage may vary.
Welcome.
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Welcome, mudfall. Almost one month without the alcohol here! The community of SR really helped because I could not do it alone. Believe me, I tried a hundred times to quit by myself. I've found that I belong. You do, too.
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Welcome aboard and congratulations on your 15 sober months. Ill bet you learnt a lot about the goodness of living alcohol free during that time.
Ill bet you also learnt that you can do it!
Like you, I sometimes smoke a small amount of pot. It's gotten less and less and less over the years. I really find less desire to have things that cloud my perspective and awareness of life in any way, and Incan see that it may just fade altogether. I am a bit wary, too, that allowing any sort of substance in my life could create a weak link in my sobriety. Out if respect for others who struggle with powerful addiction to pot - I don't talk much about it here. I focus on my real struggle; alcohol. I share this with you now simply to say you're not alone. And to offer you my own personal experience of caution as to the potential relationship between alcohol and 'other stuff'. But you won't be judged. We are all here to help one another live happier, healthier, more full and joyful lives free of the addictions that are weighing us down and killing us gradually.
Ill bet you also learnt that you can do it!
Like you, I sometimes smoke a small amount of pot. It's gotten less and less and less over the years. I really find less desire to have things that cloud my perspective and awareness of life in any way, and Incan see that it may just fade altogether. I am a bit wary, too, that allowing any sort of substance in my life could create a weak link in my sobriety. Out if respect for others who struggle with powerful addiction to pot - I don't talk much about it here. I focus on my real struggle; alcohol. I share this with you now simply to say you're not alone. And to offer you my own personal experience of caution as to the potential relationship between alcohol and 'other stuff'. But you won't be judged. We are all here to help one another live happier, healthier, more full and joyful lives free of the addictions that are weighing us down and killing us gradually.
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