I'm thinking of drinking again
You'd be hard pressed to find any post from a person here saying that they went back out and everything came out smelling like roses. On the contrary, when people come back they realize that no only was it bad, it gets worse each time you pick up.
Wow, 6 years, that is amazing! The further you're removed from the madness the easier it is to forget. Can you sit and reflect on life at that point and what led you to make the decision to stop? Is it really worth doing the research to see if it will work again?
I don't know about you but I'm not willing to climb Mount Everest, be a few steps short, and have even one sip head me back to the bottom again. I will not put myself in the position to have to climb this mountain again. Nothing is worth that.
Wow, 6 years, that is amazing! The further you're removed from the madness the easier it is to forget. Can you sit and reflect on life at that point and what led you to make the decision to stop? Is it really worth doing the research to see if it will work again?
I don't know about you but I'm not willing to climb Mount Everest, be a few steps short, and have even one sip head me back to the bottom again. I will not put myself in the position to have to climb this mountain again. Nothing is worth that.
Only you can decide, and you sound pretty level headed, but those two points stood out for me.
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Hi Ratso, I don't know if you'd go on to be a responsible drinker or not, but I don't think normal drinkers experience cravings. The other red flag for me was the fact that you drank daily. Normies could skip days without even thinking about it.
Only you can decide, and you sound pretty level headed, but those two points stood out for me.
Only you can decide, and you sound pretty level headed, but those two points stood out for me.
I want to enjoy a beer, am I the only one? I want to have a few beers, is that so bad?
I hate to be drunk, that won't be a problem, I suffer from anxiety and I can't get drunk without freaking out.
I just want to be able to enjoy things that I like without guilt, or fear.
I don't know if any of this makes sense to anybody????? It don't make sense to me, that's why I'm on here rambling.
Yes, you do make sense.
I was an anxiety drinker also. After many years abs I decided to test the waters. I did not go downhill immediately like some people say (esp many AA'ers) but the addiction did gradually creep back in to the point that I had cravings. On top of this my sleep was impacted negatively from the booze which in turn led to more anxiety.
Do yourself a favor and stay abs. It was much harder for me to stop the second time around.
Do yourself a favor and stay abs. It was much harder for me to stop the second time around.
Mate I think we all feel that to a certain extent. In your case the danger would be if you got back to the six pack daily, or more. That's over the health guidelines, and probably doesn't help with the anxiety. But it's your choice, it's up to you to decide how 'bad' it is.
Hi Ratso, I noticed in your post you seemed to list all these things about your drinking problem that "weren't so bad", it was a "mild" problem, it was easy to quit, the withdrawals weren't that bad, etc...
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that it's ok to go back to it. I just feel like that's really alcoholic thinking.. I think it's your addiction talking, trying to lure you back into drinking. I only know because I've done the same thing. Don't underestimate the power of alcohol, I have a huge amount of willpower and it eventually took control of me.
Also, sounds like you could use some new friends! I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I'd tell them to &^$& off with calling you a wuss. Tell them you don't need a drug to enjoy life. You overcame a HUGE obstacle in quitting drinking, and you handle life (which can really really SUCK sometimes) without a bottle. Could they do the same? Ask them who's the pus$y now?
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that it's ok to go back to it. I just feel like that's really alcoholic thinking.. I think it's your addiction talking, trying to lure you back into drinking. I only know because I've done the same thing. Don't underestimate the power of alcohol, I have a huge amount of willpower and it eventually took control of me.
Also, sounds like you could use some new friends! I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I'd tell them to &^$& off with calling you a wuss. Tell them you don't need a drug to enjoy life. You overcame a HUGE obstacle in quitting drinking, and you handle life (which can really really SUCK sometimes) without a bottle. Could they do the same? Ask them who's the pus$y now?
I drank after 30 years sober. No matter how hard I tried to moderate and not get so wasted when I drank, it soon went went back to how it was and was escalating beyond that pretty quickly by the time I stopped again. I'm having a tough time getting comfortable being sober again. I woke up the beast and really regret that.
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Hey Rat,
I'm in my late 50's and even though I've spent a lifetime reading science magazines and journals--there seems to be an open secret that is not widely disseminated by the medical media, or any other forms of media.
If you search alcohol addiction you will find all kinds of info to help you determine if you have a problem--all kinds of info for treatment, and info on all the damage alcohol does to your different organs.
But what you will very seldom read is that using alcohol is large enough quantities over enough time will make you an ADDICT.
However if I Google meth, heroin, nicotine, or cocaine--I will be repeatedly warned of the addictive nature of these drugs. Why not alcohol?
Is it because alcohol is legal and there are giant industries promoting it use and also in treating the resulting addictions. The media seems to promote the myth that some individuals can drink heavily over long periods and not become an addict--my experience and research is that this is a blatant lie.
OK--I'm off my soapbox.
I would recommend that you do a little research and reading about alcohol withdrawal kindling--understanding the mechanisms involved might make you rethink the idea of going back to drinking.
Good luck with your decision.
I'm in my late 50's and even though I've spent a lifetime reading science magazines and journals--there seems to be an open secret that is not widely disseminated by the medical media, or any other forms of media.
If you search alcohol addiction you will find all kinds of info to help you determine if you have a problem--all kinds of info for treatment, and info on all the damage alcohol does to your different organs.
But what you will very seldom read is that using alcohol is large enough quantities over enough time will make you an ADDICT.
However if I Google meth, heroin, nicotine, or cocaine--I will be repeatedly warned of the addictive nature of these drugs. Why not alcohol?
Is it because alcohol is legal and there are giant industries promoting it use and also in treating the resulting addictions. The media seems to promote the myth that some individuals can drink heavily over long periods and not become an addict--my experience and research is that this is a blatant lie.
OK--I'm off my soapbox.
I would recommend that you do a little research and reading about alcohol withdrawal kindling--understanding the mechanisms involved might make you rethink the idea of going back to drinking.
Good luck with your decision.
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Hi Ratso, I noticed in your post you seemed to list all these things about your drinking problem that "weren't so bad", it was a "mild" problem, it was easy to quit, the withdrawals weren't that bad, etc...
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that it's ok to go back to it. I just feel like that's really alcoholic thinking.. I think it's your addiction talking, trying to lure you back into drinking. I only know because I've done the same thing. Don't underestimate the power of alcohol, I have a huge amount of willpower and it eventually took control of me.
Also, sounds like you could use some new friends! I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I'd tell them to &^$& off with calling you a wuss. Tell them you don't need a drug to enjoy life. You overcame a HUGE obstacle in quitting drinking, and you handle life (which can really really SUCK sometimes) without a bottle. Could they do the same? Ask them who's the pus$y now?
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that it's ok to go back to it. I just feel like that's really alcoholic thinking.. I think it's your addiction talking, trying to lure you back into drinking. I only know because I've done the same thing. Don't underestimate the power of alcohol, I have a huge amount of willpower and it eventually took control of me.
Also, sounds like you could use some new friends! I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I'd tell them to &^$& off with calling you a wuss. Tell them you don't need a drug to enjoy life. You overcame a HUGE obstacle in quitting drinking, and you handle life (which can really really SUCK sometimes) without a bottle. Could they do the same? Ask them who's the pus$y now?
I don't do it because I am afraid of falling into my old pattern.
If I knew I could drink responsibly I would not hesitate to try it out. I don't believe there is some alcoholic gene or way of thinking sending me subliminal messages trying to get me to pick it up again.
It is me, I loved the way beer tastes and would like to have one again. However I am scared I will develop a bad habit again. Has anybody on here ever picked up drinking and been able to do it responsibly?
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Hey Rat,
I'm in my late 50's and even though I've spent a lifetime reading science magazines and journals--there seems to be an open secret that is not widely disseminated by the medical media, or any other forms of media.
If you search alcohol addiction you will find all kinds of info to help you determine if you have a problem--all kinds of info for treatment, and info on all the damage alcohol does to your different organs.
But what you will very seldom read is that using alcohol is large enough quantities over enough time will make you an ADDICT.
However if I Google meth, heroin, nicotine, or cocaine--I will be repeatedly warned of the addictive nature of these drugs. Why not alcohol?
Is it because alcohol is legal and there are giant industries promoting it use and also in treating the resulting addictions. The media seems to promote the myth that some individuals can drink heavily over long periods and not become an addict--my experience and research is that this is a blatant lie.
OK--I'm off my soapbox.
I would recommend that you do a little research and reading about alcohol withdrawal kindling--understanding the mechanisms involved might make you rethink the idea of going back to drinking.
Good luck with your decision.
I'm in my late 50's and even though I've spent a lifetime reading science magazines and journals--there seems to be an open secret that is not widely disseminated by the medical media, or any other forms of media.
If you search alcohol addiction you will find all kinds of info to help you determine if you have a problem--all kinds of info for treatment, and info on all the damage alcohol does to your different organs.
But what you will very seldom read is that using alcohol is large enough quantities over enough time will make you an ADDICT.
However if I Google meth, heroin, nicotine, or cocaine--I will be repeatedly warned of the addictive nature of these drugs. Why not alcohol?
Is it because alcohol is legal and there are giant industries promoting it use and also in treating the resulting addictions. The media seems to promote the myth that some individuals can drink heavily over long periods and not become an addict--my experience and research is that this is a blatant lie.
OK--I'm off my soapbox.
I would recommend that you do a little research and reading about alcohol withdrawal kindling--understanding the mechanisms involved might make you rethink the idea of going back to drinking.
Good luck with your decision.
I like to think (or lie to myself) that I can be responsible. I think I was lucky to have been able to walk away, and not be a real heavy drinker---Maybe due to that I can be responsible? Maybe I better thank God I escaped before it got ugly for me--Who knows.
I don't buy into the peer pressure, I am just around it all the time which makes me think of it (if that's giving in to peer pressure that I am wrong, and have peer pressure bothering me).
I don't buy into the AA thing either. I am not an alcoholic for life, I am not powerless to alcohol. I created a bad habit. I am not going to let somebody tell me I am powerless, or label me as an alcoholic for life. To me that is very demeaning.
I don't buy into the AA thing either. I am not an alcoholic for life, I am not powerless to alcohol. I created a bad habit. I am not going to let somebody tell me I am powerless, or label me as an alcoholic for life. To me that is very demeaning.
There's one way to see if you are powerless over alcohol, and that is to drink some more, and then stop.
You'll find out.
I just think if you've been sober six years, is that an experiment that is worthwhile?
What is the best case scenario?
I used to drink daily. I drank around a 6-pack of beer a night, give or take a few. I did this for around 5 years. I never had any trouble from drinking. No drunk driving, no marital problems, and no job related issues.
I never drank to get drunk (my anxiety won't allow me to enjoy getting drunk). I did drink to get a buzz. However I was not happy with myself with drinking on a daily basis. One day I decided to quit, cold turkey.
I did this fairly easy.
I experienced mild withdrawal symptoms (mild anxiety, restlessness). They lasted a few weeks, and by time I was one month sober They were pretty much gone.
That was 6 years ago. Throughout my 6 years sober I've done a lot of soul searching and came to the realization that I created a bad habit, and I would one day like to drink again. My question is will I experience cravings the following day if I ever decide to have a drink again?
Can people who had a drinking problem go on to be able to drink responsibly?
I never drank to get drunk (my anxiety won't allow me to enjoy getting drunk). I did drink to get a buzz. However I was not happy with myself with drinking on a daily basis. One day I decided to quit, cold turkey.
I did this fairly easy.
I experienced mild withdrawal symptoms (mild anxiety, restlessness). They lasted a few weeks, and by time I was one month sober They were pretty much gone.
That was 6 years ago. Throughout my 6 years sober I've done a lot of soul searching and came to the realization that I created a bad habit, and I would one day like to drink again. My question is will I experience cravings the following day if I ever decide to have a drink again?
Can people who had a drinking problem go on to be able to drink responsibly?
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