Lionhearted1

Are these the foundations for getting sober & staying sober??

Nonsensical

I am finding that depends on how one defines those terms. They seem to mean different things to different people.

freshstart57

Despite the advertising, there is no one size fits all answer, I believe. For me, it is detachment, personal responsibility and personal power.

Louise82

For me they are, but as the others say it's different for each person.

Mrbeagle

We are all unique individuals with varying different emotions, cultures and situations. There certainly is no set rule for recovery, you just have to find the one that's right for you.

2granddaughters

The last 3 lines of AA's HOW IT WORKS describes it very well for me .. an alcoholic of my type:

(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism.
(c) That God could and would if He were sought.


HOW IT WORKS also states "If you have decided that you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it - then you are ready to take certain steps."

You just have to come to the decision.

All the best.

Bob R

doggonecarl

I think the foundation of sobriety is one's committment to not drinking, no matter what.

Everything else you do, and there are lots of methods and processes to draw on, supports your not drinking.

Dee74

what Carl said, lionhearted.

Everything else flows from that.
Don't complicate it.

D

LadyinBC

This is my experience with it. Surrender for me was admitting that i couldn't control the alcohol no matter how much I tried. That I had a choice in the matter, I could drink or not drink, and ultimately it was up to me to make that choice. It was like a light bulb went off in my head. From there things just flowed for me.

Personal growth is important for me because I had to change ME. I had to change they way I thought of things, the way I did things otherwise I would keep doing the same thing over and over again.

It's not easy by any means, I'm 47 and had to change years and years of behaviour that I had learned. I had to relearn a lot of things. I've had to become less judgemental and more compassionate to others. I also had to realize that I am not perfect and I don't have to have the perfect life or have a life that conforms to what society says I have to. I can be happy and have a simple life and do things that make ME happy.

I have been 8 months sober and I can tell you that I have peace and contentment I NEVER had when I was drinking. I thought I could find it in a bottle, but I was so wrong.

Lionhearted1

thanks great replies as usual..