Fernaceman

Still struggling with this. I know it takes time, but just "having faith" is extremely foreign to me.

This is an obvious control issue. Any advice? I realize I must do everything one day at a time while attempting to not fear the future, but it's still tough!!

freshstart57

It helped me to understand that I was finally doing the right thing for a change, and that was enough to get me started on my new freedom from alcohol. Of course it was scary, I had made up all these reasons for not quitting in my mind that turned out to be excuses to keep drinking.

After a couple of weeks, there were changes, positive changes, that I would never have imagined. The biggest question I had at that point was 'Why the heck did I wait so long?'. I bet you will feel the same.

Onward!

Thepatman

If you continue drinking the Future will be hell, your health will decline, your life experience on earth will be spent in a dream like total Zombie nightmare.

Now the future is not written, you get to write it instead of letting to Alchool do it for you.

Makes sense?

Fernaceman

Yes but at the same time I still want complete control of my future so I will know the exact outcome of it. I know it's not how it works. Guess it comes from years of manipulatig everything so I can expect certain outcomes.

Vall

It comes from simply believing in yourself Fman....

Fernaceman

Argh I am full of fear and self doubt that I am entirely ready to have rmemoved! Argh! Maybe I need to put more effort into my fourth step and beyond.

nobshere

Removed by who Fernace? Can I call you Fernace? lol

MycoolFitz

No words of advice but what is there but faith? I do a lot of community service to keep me off the pity pot I can sit on.

Vall

I don't know what the 4th step is sorry - I only know the steps to heaven.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You are here, alive and kicking and doing well :>)

Fernaceman

Call me anything you wish lol. Removed by God, because I sure as hell can't do it by myself...wait I see what you're doin here...have faith that God will do that for me...

MycoolFitz

Dang watch the God talk it made me listen to Stairway to Heaven. a great song I should add

Mark75

Well, we never had control over anything except our response to it...

Faith takes practice. At least it did for me...

nobshere

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Hardcore atheist here!! LOL..The only thing that can fix you is you..if prayer worked there would be no starving children..no genocide..no war..no poverty. Inside job my friend..always will be up to you!

Fernaceman

Hmmm interesting twist, but I disagree. If it only came from within I wouldn't need a y outside help wih anything, and I would have thought my way out of this long ago.

nobshere

Ok then..I know for me when I was full I quit..

Itchy

"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
John Lennon

"If you want to see God laugh, tell him your plans."
Woody Allen

I don't believe in religions. I have faith in an hp, I don't have a choice since he has shown he believes in me. My hp must be different than the others. Mine is not vengeful.

Vall

Outside help? But SR is a bit like therapy - you sound off in a safe place but it is still you that does all the groundwork. It is only you that can say yes or no.

I doubt I help a t a l l lol but I do try...

Take care

Weasel1966

I find it odd myself the way this all works.

If I wanted to get a college degree I would go to school and believe I could do the curriculum to graduate. Its what i want and need to make a better life for meyself and my family. I believed in myself and through that belief I accomlished the goal.

Yet with drinking and using I start in a position of complete doubt. I say I want to quit but cannot say forever. I say I believe I can do this but need others to believe in me. I say I know this will give me so much more in my life for me and my family yet I question everyday and sometimes every moment the value of my efforts.

This is NOT like accomplishing anything else in life. This is not a goal but a means to an end. And when it comes to payoffs in the future over payoffs in the now my faith waivers. All the time and every time.

That's kinda sad but reality for me.

MycoolFitz

You guys crack me up. In the middle of tough times there can be joy.

MIRecovery

FMan, when ever I get into planning the future I remind mysef to look at how things worked out when I was in charge. Most people did not get to sober recovery on a winning streak. Only by trusting in my higher power do I get a measure serenity. Do what you need to do to stay sober today and the future will take care of it's self