Need advice on my drinking
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Need advice on my drinking
So I just registered here because of mixed reasons. I'm a 21-year-old girl who goes to university and works during the summer. I've been drinking way too much (by everyone's standards I'd say, not just mine) for the last year or so, probably because I haven't been feeling very happy lately. Not that I've been unhappy (and I definitely don't have anything to be unhappy about) I just haven't been all that cheerful and alcohol makes me feel cheerful.
I've been drinking alone often. Very often. Between August-March I think I drank with friends three days a week (sometimes more, sometimes less) and then I probably drank by myself twice a week, sometimes more. So roughly five/six days a week. Sometimes I just have a glass, other times I have four or five. I was sober for three weeks in November.
I should probably say that I've never had a memory gap from drinking. And I usually never drink so much that I can't go to uni/work the day after. I've never regretted anything I've done whilst drunk. In general, my drunk self is not that different from my sober self, I'm just a bit more cheerful when I'm drunk. I've gone out to night clubs and had a really good time completely sober. Most of the time my friends can't tell how drunk I am because I generally stay sensible while drunk.
In March I decided I was drinking too much and decided to do something about it before it became a problem. I went to a psychiatrist specialising in alcohol related problems. It was a massive disappointment. Most things that alcoholics seem to do, at least according to the psychiatrist and her lists/pamphlets, did not apply to me at all. Alcohol was not destroying anything in my life. We decided mutually that I probably didn't have to go back soon as I had already taken the matter into my own hands and been sober for two weeks before our first meeting. I went back for a second meeting six weeks later. By then, I'd started drinking again five days earlier, and I lied my way through that meeting as I didn't get on with the therapist at all. She didn't get me.
For the last two/three months I've been drinking alone again. I'm working now though, sometimes as early as 6 in the morning and those nights I generally don't drink a lot. However, I hit a new low point a week ago. I was having a few drinks before one of the early mornings and kept staying up, drinking more and more. I woke up by my alarm at 4.30 in the morning, feeling dehydrated but not too bad. I drove to work (which is the only time I've ever driven under the influence). When I was in the elevator at work, I started feeling sick and had to run to the bathroom to throw up. I then walked into the office and work was ok for the first half hour or so. Then I had to go throw up again. After that, it was fine. I can't believe I did that whilst at a work that I really like and that is really important to me. Definitely my lowest point so far. But I got away with it and I don't dare tell anyone about it as it is my lowest point. I can't see myself stopping drinking as I still can't acknowledge that I have a problem.
I don't know if anyone's bothered to read till the end, if you have, well done! If so, I'd really appreciate some advice. How bad is my situation? Do I sound like an alcoholic? What should I do? I tried talking about it with some friends earlier this spring but they didn't believe me, or if they did, they thought I exaggerated my drinking habits.
I've been drinking alone often. Very often. Between August-March I think I drank with friends three days a week (sometimes more, sometimes less) and then I probably drank by myself twice a week, sometimes more. So roughly five/six days a week. Sometimes I just have a glass, other times I have four or five. I was sober for three weeks in November.
I should probably say that I've never had a memory gap from drinking. And I usually never drink so much that I can't go to uni/work the day after. I've never regretted anything I've done whilst drunk. In general, my drunk self is not that different from my sober self, I'm just a bit more cheerful when I'm drunk. I've gone out to night clubs and had a really good time completely sober. Most of the time my friends can't tell how drunk I am because I generally stay sensible while drunk.
In March I decided I was drinking too much and decided to do something about it before it became a problem. I went to a psychiatrist specialising in alcohol related problems. It was a massive disappointment. Most things that alcoholics seem to do, at least according to the psychiatrist and her lists/pamphlets, did not apply to me at all. Alcohol was not destroying anything in my life. We decided mutually that I probably didn't have to go back soon as I had already taken the matter into my own hands and been sober for two weeks before our first meeting. I went back for a second meeting six weeks later. By then, I'd started drinking again five days earlier, and I lied my way through that meeting as I didn't get on with the therapist at all. She didn't get me.
For the last two/three months I've been drinking alone again. I'm working now though, sometimes as early as 6 in the morning and those nights I generally don't drink a lot. However, I hit a new low point a week ago. I was having a few drinks before one of the early mornings and kept staying up, drinking more and more. I woke up by my alarm at 4.30 in the morning, feeling dehydrated but not too bad. I drove to work (which is the only time I've ever driven under the influence). When I was in the elevator at work, I started feeling sick and had to run to the bathroom to throw up. I then walked into the office and work was ok for the first half hour or so. Then I had to go throw up again. After that, it was fine. I can't believe I did that whilst at a work that I really like and that is really important to me. Definitely my lowest point so far. But I got away with it and I don't dare tell anyone about it as it is my lowest point. I can't see myself stopping drinking as I still can't acknowledge that I have a problem.
I don't know if anyone's bothered to read till the end, if you have, well done! If so, I'd really appreciate some advice. How bad is my situation? Do I sound like an alcoholic? What should I do? I tried talking about it with some friends earlier this spring but they didn't believe me, or if they did, they thought I exaggerated my drinking habits.
You're the only one who can label yourself an alcoholic.
BUT the drinking alone, and trying unsucessfully to stop, worries me, especially at your age. I wrote a recent post about how alcoholism is progressive and I was doing those very things in my 20s. The really bad stuff came much later. I think you are REALLY being smart to recognise a potential problem before the really bad stuff happens.
It sounds like you got a therapist you just didn't "click" with, so don't let that stop you from trying again. Sometimes you need to test drive a shrink to see if it's a good fit!
I'm doing therapy plus AA, which is working for me. There's a scattering of young people, even in their late teens, at some of the AA meetings I go to. There's also other approaches, like SMART Recovery....one way or another it's important for most people to have support. This board works pretty well too.
BUT the drinking alone, and trying unsucessfully to stop, worries me, especially at your age. I wrote a recent post about how alcoholism is progressive and I was doing those very things in my 20s. The really bad stuff came much later. I think you are REALLY being smart to recognise a potential problem before the really bad stuff happens.
It sounds like you got a therapist you just didn't "click" with, so don't let that stop you from trying again. Sometimes you need to test drive a shrink to see if it's a good fit!
I'm doing therapy plus AA, which is working for me. There's a scattering of young people, even in their late teens, at some of the AA meetings I go to. There's also other approaches, like SMART Recovery....one way or another it's important for most people to have support. This board works pretty well too.
Sophie,
I was also doing the exact same things at your age and I could go to work, not black out, go for extended periods of time without drinking, etc... as time went on it got progressively worse. The black outs came later. The trouble functioning for an entire day and sometimes two came later, as my liver took more and more of a beating. I agree that you're understanding now that you could have a problem is a good and brave thing.
I think the thing that concerns me the most is the drinking alone part. That came along much later for me and was the first thing I tried to stop doing when I realized I really had a problem.
You might want to ask yourself why you're drinking alone. Are you self-medicating? For me, it was grief over losing a loved one that started it, and general low self-esteem. Anyway my point is there's probably a reason you may not have addressed.
One time I saw an alcoholism time-line. I think it is fairly loose and is different for everyone, but as I recall, pretty accurate for me. I haven't read the TOS here so if I find it, I hope it's okay to post the link.
I was also doing the exact same things at your age and I could go to work, not black out, go for extended periods of time without drinking, etc... as time went on it got progressively worse. The black outs came later. The trouble functioning for an entire day and sometimes two came later, as my liver took more and more of a beating. I agree that you're understanding now that you could have a problem is a good and brave thing.
I think the thing that concerns me the most is the drinking alone part. That came along much later for me and was the first thing I tried to stop doing when I realized I really had a problem.
You might want to ask yourself why you're drinking alone. Are you self-medicating? For me, it was grief over losing a loved one that started it, and general low self-esteem. Anyway my point is there's probably a reason you may not have addressed.
One time I saw an alcoholism time-line. I think it is fairly loose and is different for everyone, but as I recall, pretty accurate for me. I haven't read the TOS here so if I find it, I hope it's okay to post the link.
Welcome to SR Sophie
This is just my personal opinion...but I don't think the word alcoholic is helpful at all. It seems to imply that you must fit a certain criteria and we can all sidestep these things. I know I did. Purposefully so I wouldn't have to give up drinking. It may be best to just concentrate on your own personal relationship with alcohol and what you want to do about it. Be honest with yourself. If it feels like a problem to you, maybe you should give it up. At least for a bit.
Stick around here and I'm sure you'll pick up some useful tools to help you along the way x
I don't know if anyone's bothered to read till the end, if you have, well done! If so, I'd really appreciate some advice. How bad is my situation? Do I sound like an alcoholic? What should I do? I tried talking about it with some friends earlier this spring but they didn't believe me, or if they did, they thought I exaggerated my drinking habits.
Stick around here and I'm sure you'll pick up some useful tools to help you along the way x
Welcome to SR!
Try reading the book Alcoholics Anonymous and see if you relate to anything in it. Read the entire book. It's a personal decision.
If you stopped, can you stay stopped for at least 90 days? See how you feel then, maybe?
Stick around here! glad you joined us!
Try reading the book Alcoholics Anonymous and see if you relate to anything in it. Read the entire book. It's a personal decision.
If you stopped, can you stay stopped for at least 90 days? See how you feel then, maybe?
Stick around here! glad you joined us!
Welcome to SR Sophie. :ghug3
Are you an alcoholic? I can't say, nor can anyone else here.
You're worried enough to ask that question, and that's significant, I think.
Is drinking alone a bad sign? Most people would say yes. Trying to stop and having problems is a bad sign.
When my dad told me I was 'drinking a bit much' I must admit that I stopped drinking alone. But a lot of my drinking, even from the start, was alone. I'd go to the student union bar, and whether my friends were there or not, I'd drink.
Sophie, it's good that you're thinking about this now. Alcohol does not have to destroy your life. If you're uncomfortable with your drinking, if you want to stop and stay stopped, then I would try and find an AA meeting.
Because you don't want to wake up one morning wondering where your memories between then and the age of 18 have gone. To know you worked for company X, and company Y, but who you worked with, and exactly what you did... all gone.
Are you an alcoholic? I can't say, nor can anyone else here.
You're worried enough to ask that question, and that's significant, I think.
Is drinking alone a bad sign? Most people would say yes. Trying to stop and having problems is a bad sign.
When my dad told me I was 'drinking a bit much' I must admit that I stopped drinking alone. But a lot of my drinking, even from the start, was alone. I'd go to the student union bar, and whether my friends were there or not, I'd drink.
Sophie, it's good that you're thinking about this now. Alcohol does not have to destroy your life. If you're uncomfortable with your drinking, if you want to stop and stay stopped, then I would try and find an AA meeting.
Because you don't want to wake up one morning wondering where your memories between then and the age of 18 have gone. To know you worked for company X, and company Y, but who you worked with, and exactly what you did... all gone.
Welcome to SR.
It always makes me happy to see younger people deciding to get sober.
As a couple people hace already stated, sounds like me 20 years ago. Everybody has a different bottom. I waited till it almost killed me. I doubt I would have seen 45. Now, with God's grace, one day at a time I believe I will.
Alcohol wants to get us alone and it want to kill us.
Glad you found us, hang in there
It always makes me happy to see younger people deciding to get sober.
As a couple people hace already stated, sounds like me 20 years ago. Everybody has a different bottom. I waited till it almost killed me. I doubt I would have seen 45. Now, with God's grace, one day at a time I believe I will.
Alcohol wants to get us alone and it want to kill us.
Glad you found us, hang in there
Sophie,
I think it's really great that you are listening to yourself. You know something isn't quite right and that's the important thing, no matter what you call it. The shame you are feeling about the all night drinking episode is you telling yourself that this isn't who you want to be. I'd agree with the others. Hang out for awhile, learn some stuff, don't worry about the "diagnosis."
Stay stopped for a month or three and see how you feel.
I had a similar experience/feeling of not right during college and stopping for a time worked. In fact, things were fine for a couple of decades after! Not saying it's the same for you (God forbid you should end up in my position), but I think if you hold on to this and learn from it, perhaps you will have a lesson to take with you through your adult life.
Best.
I think it's really great that you are listening to yourself. You know something isn't quite right and that's the important thing, no matter what you call it. The shame you are feeling about the all night drinking episode is you telling yourself that this isn't who you want to be. I'd agree with the others. Hang out for awhile, learn some stuff, don't worry about the "diagnosis."
Stay stopped for a month or three and see how you feel.
I had a similar experience/feeling of not right during college and stopping for a time worked. In fact, things were fine for a couple of decades after! Not saying it's the same for you (God forbid you should end up in my position), but I think if you hold on to this and learn from it, perhaps you will have a lesson to take with you through your adult life.
Best.
If you are having any negative thoughts about your drinking, chances are you should quit. I am only 25 and everyone is right. The black outs did start later. I drank for a long time before I had them, and then they started to happen every single time I drank. This stuff never gets better. Please stop now!
Hi Sophieo,
Welcome!
As others have said, it's how you feel about the drinking that's important, not what others tell you. It seems that you feel drinking is a problem for you and that's what matters. Also, alcoholism is a progressive disease and it will get worse unless you deal with it. You'll find lots of good information and support here.
Welcome!
As others have said, it's how you feel about the drinking that's important, not what others tell you. It seems that you feel drinking is a problem for you and that's what matters. Also, alcoholism is a progressive disease and it will get worse unless you deal with it. You'll find lots of good information and support here.
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I would say your drinking is problematic. As everyone has stated, it is a progressive disease. I'm in my 40s and I consider myself an alcoholic and at 21 I didn't anywhere near the level you are at now. Only you can say if you are an alcoholic, but I would definitely continue to be keen to your situation. Try stopping for awhile and see if you feel better. Good luck.
Some great advice here Sophie
Sometimes I think listening to others and thinking about labels cvan confuse us...sometimes maybe it's best to listen to our heart - if you think you have a problem then I reckon you probably do.
The next step? deciding what to do about it
You'll find a lot of help and support here - welcome
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Sometimes I think listening to others and thinking about labels cvan confuse us...sometimes maybe it's best to listen to our heart - if you think you have a problem then I reckon you probably do.
The next step? deciding what to do about it
You'll find a lot of help and support here - welcome
D
Welcome to SR.
I'm 24 and I'm an alcoholic. Three years ago, at your age, I was probably doing the same you're doing. I didn't drink a huge amount and when I did, my hangovers weren't that bad and I never blacked out. In three years, lots have changed. They say alcoholism is progressive and I believe that 100%. From the moment I started drinking I knew that I was different to others. I don't know WHY I thought that, but I just knew. I could drink more than others and I felt like alcohol was necessary in most social situations. I very rarely drank alone at your age... but when I was 23 or so I was drinking alone because that's what I preferred.
I think most people's alcoholism progresses over a very long period of time, but for me it happened very, very quickly. For the last year of my drinking I knew that I had a serious, serious issue. When I was your age I thought I was normal, I was just doing what everyone else was doing and there's nothing wrong with that, right? But it was very wrong for me... because when I drink (and this has always been the case) something changes inside me and I am no longer being 'me' but I am being the alcoholic me.
It doesn't matter how old you are. All that matters is that if you are worried about your alcohol consumption, if you are concerned that something is happening to you that isn't happening to other people, if you are worried that you're on a slippery slope - then there is no better time to address it than now.
You may or may not be an alcoholic but that is irrelevant if you feel that alcohol has become something that you have no control over or if you feel that it is making your life unmanageable. It doesn't even matter if you feel neither of those things... if you're concerned in any way regarding alcohol then I would suggest that you lay off it for a while and see what happens.
I'm 24 and I'm an alcoholic. Three years ago, at your age, I was probably doing the same you're doing. I didn't drink a huge amount and when I did, my hangovers weren't that bad and I never blacked out. In three years, lots have changed. They say alcoholism is progressive and I believe that 100%. From the moment I started drinking I knew that I was different to others. I don't know WHY I thought that, but I just knew. I could drink more than others and I felt like alcohol was necessary in most social situations. I very rarely drank alone at your age... but when I was 23 or so I was drinking alone because that's what I preferred.
I think most people's alcoholism progresses over a very long period of time, but for me it happened very, very quickly. For the last year of my drinking I knew that I had a serious, serious issue. When I was your age I thought I was normal, I was just doing what everyone else was doing and there's nothing wrong with that, right? But it was very wrong for me... because when I drink (and this has always been the case) something changes inside me and I am no longer being 'me' but I am being the alcoholic me.
It doesn't matter how old you are. All that matters is that if you are worried about your alcohol consumption, if you are concerned that something is happening to you that isn't happening to other people, if you are worried that you're on a slippery slope - then there is no better time to address it than now.
You may or may not be an alcoholic but that is irrelevant if you feel that alcohol has become something that you have no control over or if you feel that it is making your life unmanageable. It doesn't even matter if you feel neither of those things... if you're concerned in any way regarding alcohol then I would suggest that you lay off it for a while and see what happens.
Are you an alcoholic? I dunno, look it up in the dictionary and decide if the definition fits your behavior. Or don't do that at all, don't waste any time or mental energy on such a meaningless and pointless exercise.
Instead, ask yourself if you think you drink too much, and if it is becoming a problem for you. If you are here, then everybody, including you, knows the answer to that.
Alcohol dependency, like any other addiction, slowly increases as your tolerance goes up. Think opiates, cocaine, heroin, painkillers, you name it. Alcohol is nothing special in its nature that way.
Now that the preamble is over, you can get to the real stuff. Are you going to 'cut down', are you going to moderate your intake, are you going to 'try to control it'? Or are you going to make a decision, a real commitment to yourself about your future use of alcohol?
Here is another thought for you to ponder. You are just like any of a dozen new posters here every week, and you are just like me. I was in your shoes too. You can choose to fix this because you are able to fix this. You really can do this, you really can stop drinking altogether, if you want to. I did.
Instead, ask yourself if you think you drink too much, and if it is becoming a problem for you. If you are here, then everybody, including you, knows the answer to that.
Alcohol dependency, like any other addiction, slowly increases as your tolerance goes up. Think opiates, cocaine, heroin, painkillers, you name it. Alcohol is nothing special in its nature that way.
Now that the preamble is over, you can get to the real stuff. Are you going to 'cut down', are you going to moderate your intake, are you going to 'try to control it'? Or are you going to make a decision, a real commitment to yourself about your future use of alcohol?
Here is another thought for you to ponder. You are just like any of a dozen new posters here every week, and you are just like me. I was in your shoes too. You can choose to fix this because you are able to fix this. You really can do this, you really can stop drinking altogether, if you want to. I did.
Wow, i hope you got as much out of all the great advice as i did and im 36 saying i never had a major downfall from drinking, but the amount i would consume was silly...... weather alone or out. I think if you question it you know deep down its a problem. Some times i think im fine, but deep down i know i need to quit. Seem weird right now to say i wont drink again, but everyone here seems to be full of advice and help to get over that part........ really glad i joined and am guessing you will be too.
Hi friend! i agree with hypochondriac....alcoholic is a label..my dad used to say alcoholic comes from two words: alcohol and addict, well i wasn't even close to being addicted to alcohol but i sure loved the **** out of it...forget about the word and concentrate on your wonderful life that is being affected by alcohol. there is a beautiful full life awaiting you. i hope you find that cheer you are looking for somewhere else because the uplifted feeling that comes from drinking is short-lived. God bless ya
Welcome. Loss of control is a huge indicator that there may be a problem. Trying to control how much you drink in another indicator.
I never lost a job, a relationship, got arrested, lost my house, etc due to drinking... but, when I drink I want more. I drink for the "fireworks". When I was 21 that meant 6 beers. When I was 30 that meant 1/2 fifth of whiskey and a couple of beers. When I was 36 it meant almost a fifth of whiskey and a xannax to sleep and a xannax to face the day.
This is progressive I promise you. If you are an alcoholic it will get worse. The amounts you drink to get the same feeling will increase. Couple that with your body aging and it gets worse. Puffy face, weight gain, increased anxiety, unstable moods, etc... All of those things are just waiting for you.
Not trying to be doom and gloom, but if you're an alcoholic, and it's sounds like there is a really good chance at that, it gets worse, never better...
The next question is how? How do we live life without drinking? That is what kept me drinking from 17 - 36. I couldn't face the job, the wife, the kids, the freinds, etc... without drinking. Drinking was the only time my life made sense. If you took that away from me I would be a mess. Sure, the hangovers were bad, and I'd be late for work, or I'd be miserable all day, or I'd have panic attacks, but at least I'd get those 3 sometimes 6 hours where I was OK. How could I give it up?
I found that answer in AA. There are many other programs out there but AA is the biggest, the cheapest, and the most available. The idea with AA is that the problem is removed. We aren't fighting it, we aren't obsessing over not drinking, we simply are free from it.
It's working for me and it can work for you.
I wish you the best. If I can get sober, anyone can.
I never lost a job, a relationship, got arrested, lost my house, etc due to drinking... but, when I drink I want more. I drink for the "fireworks". When I was 21 that meant 6 beers. When I was 30 that meant 1/2 fifth of whiskey and a couple of beers. When I was 36 it meant almost a fifth of whiskey and a xannax to sleep and a xannax to face the day.
This is progressive I promise you. If you are an alcoholic it will get worse. The amounts you drink to get the same feeling will increase. Couple that with your body aging and it gets worse. Puffy face, weight gain, increased anxiety, unstable moods, etc... All of those things are just waiting for you.
Not trying to be doom and gloom, but if you're an alcoholic, and it's sounds like there is a really good chance at that, it gets worse, never better...
The next question is how? How do we live life without drinking? That is what kept me drinking from 17 - 36. I couldn't face the job, the wife, the kids, the freinds, etc... without drinking. Drinking was the only time my life made sense. If you took that away from me I would be a mess. Sure, the hangovers were bad, and I'd be late for work, or I'd be miserable all day, or I'd have panic attacks, but at least I'd get those 3 sometimes 6 hours where I was OK. How could I give it up?
I found that answer in AA. There are many other programs out there but AA is the biggest, the cheapest, and the most available. The idea with AA is that the problem is removed. We aren't fighting it, we aren't obsessing over not drinking, we simply are free from it.
It's working for me and it can work for you.
I wish you the best. If I can get sober, anyone can.
In March I decided I was drinking too much and decided to do something about it before it became a problem. I went to a psychiatrist specialising in alcohol related problems. It was a massive disappointment. Most things that alcoholics seem to do, at least according to the psychiatrist and her lists/pamphlets, did not apply to me at all. Alcohol was not destroying anything in my life. We decided mutually that I probably didn't have to go back soon as I had already taken the matter into my own hands and been sober for two weeks before our first meeting. I went back for a second meeting six weeks later. By then, I'd started drinking again five days earlier, and I lied my way through that meeting as I didn't get on with the therapist at all. She didn't get me.
For the last two/three months I've been drinking alone again. I'm working now though, sometimes as early as 6 in the morning and those nights I generally don't drink a lot. However, I hit a new low point a week ago. I was having a few drinks before one of the early mornings and kept staying up, drinking more and more. I woke up by my alarm at 4.30 in the morning, feeling dehydrated but not too bad. I drove to work (which is the only time I've ever driven under the influence). When I was in the elevator at work, I started feeling sick and had to run to the bathroom to throw up. I then walked into the office and work was ok for the first half hour or so. Then I had to go throw up again. After that, it was fine. I can't believe I did that whilst at a work that I really like and that is really important to me. Definitely my lowest point so far. But I got away with it and I don't dare tell anyone about it as it is my lowest point. I can't see myself stopping drinking as I still can't acknowledge that I have a problem.
I don't know if anyone's bothered to read till the end, if you have, well done! If so, I'd really appreciate some advice. How bad is my situation? Do I sound like an alcoholic? What should I do?
How bad is bad?
I hope you can appreciate if you think a problem exists, follow your heart on that quest to resolve your respective self-identified problem. A sans-alcohol life need not be an unhappy, boring, unsatisfied, unfulfilled, unattractive life.
On the contrary, alcoholism is a serious problem, as you already know, and so a serious resolvement is absolutely required as early on as is possible. The light at the end of a tunnel is not always a train.
Good on you for sharing, sophieo.
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