Class of April 2015 Part 5
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Those pork chops, sweet potatoes and peas sound great. 
I'm not going to AA either. I went a handful of times last year, but have not been this year. It's a wonderful place but it's just not for me. I'm doing well with SR and the awesome support here. There was one story there that will remain with me and I watched her get her 13 year pin that night.
Had another dizzy spell right before time to leave work today. I've cut down on the caffeinated drinks to one. I'm trying to drink more water and tea. Was feeling stressed when the dizzy spell happened, and was trying to finish up my goal for today which I did end up completing. It might have to do with sleep as I have not slept well the past three nights. My son is with his daddy tonight so I might call it a night soon. One thing is for sure, being sleep deprived while sober is a lot better than being sleep deprived while hungover. Goodnight!!
I'm not going to AA either. I went a handful of times last year, but have not been this year. It's a wonderful place but it's just not for me. I'm doing well with SR and the awesome support here. There was one story there that will remain with me and I watched her get her 13 year pin that night.
Had another dizzy spell right before time to leave work today. I've cut down on the caffeinated drinks to one. I'm trying to drink more water and tea. Was feeling stressed when the dizzy spell happened, and was trying to finish up my goal for today which I did end up completing. It might have to do with sleep as I have not slept well the past three nights. My son is with his daddy tonight so I might call it a night soon. One thing is for sure, being sleep deprived while sober is a lot better than being sleep deprived while hungover. Goodnight!!
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Just checking in this evening. I have never been to an AA meeting. To be honest I'm scared to go. SR has been a huge help for me over the last month. I don't consider myself "doing it on my own" because I have you all. We are in it together and all have the same goal. I also enjoy reading the posts from the "old timers" about how they have stayed sober. That has helped me really focus on what I will need to do to stay sober long term.
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Ridiculous typos from the phone in the grocery store!! I was so flustered I tried to throw the pork chop into the bag before it was scanned and the girl was like, 'Oh I need to scan that first.' Then she said the total was $12.27 and I handed her a 10 spot!!! She must of thought I was baked.
The sweet potato was excellent. Actually a Garnet Yam. mmmhmmm. The key is, cut it in half, rub it with olive oil, salt and pepper on the cut side, and bake at 400F for 30 minutes.
Lily, I think you're right about total accountability, or taking ownership as far as AA goes. Something lingering tells me that after I turn my life around I can "examine my options." At least I'm trying to turn it around, but that kind of thinking is folly. I'm damn glad I did not pick up today. I put effort, grappling with the AV. I really don't even grapple with it anymore, I kind of blare music in my head to drown him out. I just go somewhere else in my head without even being conscious of it. I can hear his screeching, but it's distant.
Ok, I'll keep trying to figure this out. Thanks all. Going to sleep.
The sweet potato was excellent. Actually a Garnet Yam. mmmhmmm. The key is, cut it in half, rub it with olive oil, salt and pepper on the cut side, and bake at 400F for 30 minutes.
Lily, I think you're right about total accountability, or taking ownership as far as AA goes. Something lingering tells me that after I turn my life around I can "examine my options." At least I'm trying to turn it around, but that kind of thinking is folly. I'm damn glad I did not pick up today. I put effort, grappling with the AV. I really don't even grapple with it anymore, I kind of blare music in my head to drown him out. I just go somewhere else in my head without even being conscious of it. I can hear his screeching, but it's distant.
Ok, I'll keep trying to figure this out. Thanks all. Going to sleep.
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OMD, I was on my way to Italy for a project a long time ago. I arrived by bus to JFK. I was pretty nervous about the whole venture. I had a couple of hours before the plane took off. I found the bar and started hitting the Red. I ordered nachos, and another red, and another, etc. Probably a bottle and half. I was wasted when it came time to board the plane. I got on and sat in a window seat, directly behind a screaming baby. I was still ok. The plane starting moving toward the runway.
We saw red flashing lights and then blue police lights on the tarmac. They would not say what was going on. When you are just sitting there, they do not run the air conditioning and do not give out drinks or water. It was hot, and getting hotter. My buzz started to wear off. The baby was whaling like a demon. It would not stop. My head was pounding. I felt like I was going to die. I was resting my head on the window. I couldn't keep my eyes open. I woke up some time later with my cheek completely plastered to the window and drool running down my chin. The plane was still sitting there. The baby was still screeching. The cabin lights were blinding. It was a 3 hour delay. Finally we took off. My anxiety started to kick in. No way to make my connecting flight. I was on a schedule.
The pilots put her on full throttle and we had tail winds. I got to London with 10 minutes to make the next flight. I was hung over as all hell. I sprinted. I pushed old ladies and women with babies out of my way as I ran down escalators and through doors. I had to grab my own luggage, because we were so late it could not be transferred. I made it to the Air Italia ticket counter. They told me to check my luggage there. Then I ran up another escalator, and checked in at the gate. They asked where my luggage was, and the Italian woman working the counter was angry I did not bring the luggage with me. She said it would not make the flight. That woman was beautiful, and decked out in that crazy Italian uniform with the police style hat on. I got on the plane and met an American girl who came on my flight. She made the same mistake, but was told the bags could have made it. 4 hours of biting anxiety. Brutally hung over, not knowing where the bags were. If they would be lost in some Italian bureaucratic black whole of red tape and a, 'take a seat next to Beetle Juice in the waiting room' experience.
We landed and my bag scraggled out... dead last. I was sweating, dying. The girl did not get her bag. Screw the train. Taxi!!
I cannot believe that I could function like that. The plane landed at 7am. I was late, but I made it to a 9am meeting and was drinking in Rome with a buddy by 2pm.
We saw red flashing lights and then blue police lights on the tarmac. They would not say what was going on. When you are just sitting there, they do not run the air conditioning and do not give out drinks or water. It was hot, and getting hotter. My buzz started to wear off. The baby was whaling like a demon. It would not stop. My head was pounding. I felt like I was going to die. I was resting my head on the window. I couldn't keep my eyes open. I woke up some time later with my cheek completely plastered to the window and drool running down my chin. The plane was still sitting there. The baby was still screeching. The cabin lights were blinding. It was a 3 hour delay. Finally we took off. My anxiety started to kick in. No way to make my connecting flight. I was on a schedule.
The pilots put her on full throttle and we had tail winds. I got to London with 10 minutes to make the next flight. I was hung over as all hell. I sprinted. I pushed old ladies and women with babies out of my way as I ran down escalators and through doors. I had to grab my own luggage, because we were so late it could not be transferred. I made it to the Air Italia ticket counter. They told me to check my luggage there. Then I ran up another escalator, and checked in at the gate. They asked where my luggage was, and the Italian woman working the counter was angry I did not bring the luggage with me. She said it would not make the flight. That woman was beautiful, and decked out in that crazy Italian uniform with the police style hat on. I got on the plane and met an American girl who came on my flight. She made the same mistake, but was told the bags could have made it. 4 hours of biting anxiety. Brutally hung over, not knowing where the bags were. If they would be lost in some Italian bureaucratic black whole of red tape and a, 'take a seat next to Beetle Juice in the waiting room' experience.
We landed and my bag scraggled out... dead last. I was sweating, dying. The girl did not get her bag. Screw the train. Taxi!!
I cannot believe that I could function like that. The plane landed at 7am. I was late, but I made it to a 9am meeting and was drinking in Rome with a buddy by 2pm.
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....that's a story, J555.
The drinking life is a hard one.....makes what might have just been stressful into monumental epics of suffering and endurance. The drinks at the end of it would have been good in a way that you'd have to be alcoholic to truly understand.
Good that you didn't revisit today /last night, whatever it is for you,. Better to look back and laugh......
Thanks Swimkim. Really want the two months now and this weekend will test it.
Usually avoid the AA issue on here. Just don't relate to the rhetoric, makes no sense to me. If you're trying to help people find the inner strength to overcome an addiction, why tell them that they are powerless?
Anyway......Skype calling, back later
The drinking life is a hard one.....makes what might have just been stressful into monumental epics of suffering and endurance. The drinks at the end of it would have been good in a way that you'd have to be alcoholic to truly understand.
Good that you didn't revisit today /last night, whatever it is for you,. Better to look back and laugh......
Thanks Swimkim. Really want the two months now and this weekend will test it.
Usually avoid the AA issue on here. Just don't relate to the rhetoric, makes no sense to me. If you're trying to help people find the inner strength to overcome an addiction, why tell them that they are powerless?
Anyway......Skype calling, back later
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Johnny555 that flight story made me laugh out loud 
I can totally relate to it as I have had so many escapades just like that too....how on earth did we cope with life like that for so long??
I'm not attending AA either. I am also lingering in denial as well as finding it nigh on impossible to find the time as I am either working or looking after my children. I find SR great with all the support I need at the moment...
Congratulations to all those celebrating one month today...Amp Cauliflower and I'm sure I've missed a few others but congrats to you too
I can totally relate to it as I have had so many escapades just like that too....how on earth did we cope with life like that for so long??
I'm not attending AA either. I am also lingering in denial as well as finding it nigh on impossible to find the time as I am either working or looking after my children. I find SR great with all the support I need at the moment...
Congratulations to all those celebrating one month today...Amp Cauliflower and I'm sure I've missed a few others but congrats to you too
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Good morning roomies.
Although it's 30days for me, I've been watching weeks and celebrated 4wks on Sunday.
One month feels great. There's still moments of some sort of battle, but overall so much worth it!!
Thank you Martina for the wishes.
Have a great day!
Although it's 30days for me, I've been watching weeks and celebrated 4wks on Sunday.
One month feels great. There's still moments of some sort of battle, but overall so much worth it!!
Thank you Martina for the wishes.
Have a great day!
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Johnny, thank you for sharing that. Rings true for me. I actually got a little anxious reading it; it brought back the feeling of being trapped by alcohol. As I continue as a sober person those are the moments I need to remember because that is exactly what I don't want to ever experience again.
Congrats to all in the milestones today!
Congrats to all in the milestones today!
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Congratulations everyone on the 4 weeks, the half century, whatever your milestone! Keep em coming!
Nice plane story! Ok so what was supposed to be a 2 hour delay on a 3 hour flight turned out to be an all nighter with no sleep. No screaming baby but no screaming hangover so all good in the circumstances. I could have gone to Tokyo though!. Anyway, I didn't have a drink and literally had 30 mins to take a shower before my meeting. Client said how well I looked
I am in the same place as it seems many others are on AA, for whatever reason. My reason is essentially that I disagree with some of the fundamental premises of AA while at the same time having utmost respect for the amazing things they have done for other people's lives.
This class and the support, wisdom and stories offered here have all been truly of extraordinary help to me, and as I have expressed before I am really grateful for the opportunity to be part of this class. I really do mean it when I say I hope you're all well!
I will be out with clients later but they know I am tired so easy excuse not to drink.
I have decided not to drink tomorrow.
Best wishes to all who read and post here.
OMD
Nice plane story! Ok so what was supposed to be a 2 hour delay on a 3 hour flight turned out to be an all nighter with no sleep. No screaming baby but no screaming hangover so all good in the circumstances. I could have gone to Tokyo though!. Anyway, I didn't have a drink and literally had 30 mins to take a shower before my meeting. Client said how well I looked
I am in the same place as it seems many others are on AA, for whatever reason. My reason is essentially that I disagree with some of the fundamental premises of AA while at the same time having utmost respect for the amazing things they have done for other people's lives.
This class and the support, wisdom and stories offered here have all been truly of extraordinary help to me, and as I have expressed before I am really grateful for the opportunity to be part of this class. I really do mean it when I say I hope you're all well!
I will be out with clients later but they know I am tired so easy excuse not to drink.
I have decided not to drink tomorrow.
Best wishes to all who read and post here.
OMD
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well done OMD
Congrats on 30 Incontrol and congrats to everyone hitting those big numbers !!
Yes, I also loved your story about the plane Johnny. I have a few plane stories myself. Usually ended in the alcohol wearing off and feeling ill. Never has to happen again and that's a beautiful thing.
Anyone else grind there teeth. I find that my jaw has been killing me in the morning and the usual headaches that accompany it. Probably just need to lay off on the caffeine.
Good morning to all of you. Each day seems to be a little better. Thank you for all of your posts.
Congrats on 30 Incontrol and congrats to everyone hitting those big numbers !!
Yes, I also loved your story about the plane Johnny. I have a few plane stories myself. Usually ended in the alcohol wearing off and feeling ill. Never has to happen again and that's a beautiful thing.
Anyone else grind there teeth. I find that my jaw has been killing me in the morning and the usual headaches that accompany it. Probably just need to lay off on the caffeine.
Good morning to all of you. Each day seems to be a little better. Thank you for all of your posts.
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Hello! Glad to see everyone checking in and sharing.
I just finished some work and thinking about hitting the deck to soak up some sunshine. I am still fighting off a cold, but it seems to be coming to an end. My son brings home all sorts of germs from his school.
In regards to AA, I don't attend. My late grandmother found her sobriety from AA, and I respect the program, but I don't feel that I would do well in that sort of setting. I prefer finding my way through self reflection, daily checking in on Sober Recovery and reading and posting here. Through experience, I know I learn better on my own. It hasn't been easy, but I find that I am adapting well, and making the necessary changes in my life to be completely successful at recovery. I will not drink again, and I hold myself responsible for my life.
I am off for some meditation and quiet reading on the deck for a bit, need to clear my head of clutter! Have a great day, and I will check in later!
I just finished some work and thinking about hitting the deck to soak up some sunshine. I am still fighting off a cold, but it seems to be coming to an end. My son brings home all sorts of germs from his school.
In regards to AA, I don't attend. My late grandmother found her sobriety from AA, and I respect the program, but I don't feel that I would do well in that sort of setting. I prefer finding my way through self reflection, daily checking in on Sober Recovery and reading and posting here. Through experience, I know I learn better on my own. It hasn't been easy, but I find that I am adapting well, and making the necessary changes in my life to be completely successful at recovery. I will not drink again, and I hold myself responsible for my life.
I am off for some meditation and quiet reading on the deck for a bit, need to clear my head of clutter! Have a great day, and I will check in later!
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Morning all....
Dark early morning start to day 51 here.
For various reasons this is going to be a triggerful few days for me, back to solitary living again after the last month or so makes it easy and tempting to drink. From about three this afternoon the witching hour will kick in.
But prepared for it knowing it will be a passing thing for a few hours, plenty else to do to help surf it.
Just back to taking it hour by hour for the next few days until I get the solo routine established again. Which will involve hanging around here a fair bit. Just unfortunate that my times are all out of synch with the activity on here.
Okay. All the best all, wishing you all another sober day.
Dark early morning start to day 51 here.
For various reasons this is going to be a triggerful few days for me, back to solitary living again after the last month or so makes it easy and tempting to drink. From about three this afternoon the witching hour will kick in.
But prepared for it knowing it will be a passing thing for a few hours, plenty else to do to help surf it.
Just back to taking it hour by hour for the next few days until I get the solo routine established again. Which will involve hanging around here a fair bit. Just unfortunate that my times are all out of synch with the activity on here.
Okay. All the best all, wishing you all another sober day.
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Hey Can Guy! Looks like you get up when I go to bed! 10,49pm here!
Why don't you do a raid on Amazon and get some really good books and music. Get some distractions in the form of page-turning novels and some good jazz (if that's your thing). Normally takes my mind off things...
There's always sodoku and ice cream if the crap really hits the fan!!!
Stay strong mate!
Why don't you do a raid on Amazon and get some really good books and music. Get some distractions in the form of page-turning novels and some good jazz (if that's your thing). Normally takes my mind off things...
There's always sodoku and ice cream if the crap really hits the fan!!!
Stay strong mate!
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Sounds like a plan, Can.
You might find learning more a help. Maybe master AVRT or download an ebook for NLP. That's some pretty cool stuff. Life changing stuff.
I guess we'll keep running into triggers for a while. This one will be a great one to get over.
NLP swish pattern can really help. Youtube search. Anthony Robbins has the best video that teaches is. With all that time, you'd really be able to anchor your minds response to thoughts of alcohol. You can make it negative if you're romancing the idea of a drink, or anchor a positive mind set of being sober if your sad or mourn alcohol.
If you go into it with the mind set of something positive....like you're going to master AVRT or NLP, or you're going to strengthen your sobriety, or get a bunch of things done, etc. It'll be a lot easier and you'll be sooo much stronger afterwards. Nothing will stop ya!
You might find learning more a help. Maybe master AVRT or download an ebook for NLP. That's some pretty cool stuff. Life changing stuff.
I guess we'll keep running into triggers for a while. This one will be a great one to get over.
NLP swish pattern can really help. Youtube search. Anthony Robbins has the best video that teaches is. With all that time, you'd really be able to anchor your minds response to thoughts of alcohol. You can make it negative if you're romancing the idea of a drink, or anchor a positive mind set of being sober if your sad or mourn alcohol.
If you go into it with the mind set of something positive....like you're going to master AVRT or NLP, or you're going to strengthen your sobriety, or get a bunch of things done, etc. It'll be a lot easier and you'll be sooo much stronger afterwards. Nothing will stop ya!
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Thanks amp, incontrol. Appreciated.
The time thing puts us first into the day down here in oz, so very much out of synch with US and Europe.
Got plenty to do.....looking forward to some workshop time this weekend. Got a stack of new parts for a project back from laser cutters so can start and assemble that. Good jazz is a good idea. Karl Denson's Tiny Universe my most recent jazz - ish buy. Bit funky, that....
Maybe a little socialising too.....keep up the social contacts. DVDs, bit of cooking, interneting....spending booze money on ebay, lol
The reptile brain really had these few days worked out.....guest has left, some free time to be had.....a big boozing opportunity. But I've postponed the time off and made some work and personal commitments so the big binge won't be happening.
Thanks......support is great, just a rough patch to be got through. There will be more. Its part of the process.
The time thing puts us first into the day down here in oz, so very much out of synch with US and Europe.
Got plenty to do.....looking forward to some workshop time this weekend. Got a stack of new parts for a project back from laser cutters so can start and assemble that. Good jazz is a good idea. Karl Denson's Tiny Universe my most recent jazz - ish buy. Bit funky, that....
Maybe a little socialising too.....keep up the social contacts. DVDs, bit of cooking, interneting....spending booze money on ebay, lol
The reptile brain really had these few days worked out.....guest has left, some free time to be had.....a big boozing opportunity. But I've postponed the time off and made some work and personal commitments so the big binge won't be happening.
Thanks......support is great, just a rough patch to be got through. There will be more. Its part of the process.
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I need to stop with the coffee. I only have one mug in the morning. I think that I am so extremely sensitive that it's like snorting a few lines of coke at 9am and then expecting not to be jacked up and crash horribly in several hours. Even 8 hours later, I'm exhausted, jaw clenching, etc. I've had to quit many times before. This could make all the difference I need to fell great.
I have and good and bad experiences with the program. I've found myself writing some anecdotes of the ridiculous things I've seen and heard and then deleted them because I don't want to trash talk.
I'm a lone wolf. I am not a team player. I don't take orders well. I also think out of the box. None of those things jive with AA. If you can handle that, and it gets you sober, do it! It might be the best shot any of us have.
Coffee ideas? I imagine it would take me 2-3 days to figure out if that's the problem, if I just stop. Some people can't touch the stuff right? Herbal tea in a.m.?
I have and good and bad experiences with the program. I've found myself writing some anecdotes of the ridiculous things I've seen and heard and then deleted them because I don't want to trash talk.
I'm a lone wolf. I am not a team player. I don't take orders well. I also think out of the box. None of those things jive with AA. If you can handle that, and it gets you sober, do it! It might be the best shot any of us have.
Coffee ideas? I imagine it would take me 2-3 days to figure out if that's the problem, if I just stop. Some people can't touch the stuff right? Herbal tea in a.m.?
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Johnny...all I know is decaf blows chunks. If I could find a decaf that didn't taste like canned sardines, I'd be loving life.
And really...it should go. But I can't. Eh...I can. But don't want to. Decaf teas aren't bad at all. If gotten used to that. I've become especially grown to sleepy time tea.
Ya know what. That's it. You're right. In dropping coffee too. Heck with it. Going with Decaf Tea.
And really...it should go. But I can't. Eh...I can. But don't want to. Decaf teas aren't bad at all. If gotten used to that. I've become especially grown to sleepy time tea.
Ya know what. That's it. You're right. In dropping coffee too. Heck with it. Going with Decaf Tea.
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