Afraid of losing myself
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I had absolutely no idea the pain I would be in getting involved with an alcoholic.
I thought I could cure him
I thought I could help him
I thought he just needed someone to love him
I thought his lack of family made it happen
I thought I was stronger and more patient that those that tried before me
I was wrong.
If you want to spend your life stressing over how much he's drinking, when he's drinking, why he's drinking, is he hiding it, how much has he had, is he at work or drinking then go ahead but it will come to this.
It's no life and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
I thought I could cure him
I thought I could help him
I thought he just needed someone to love him
I thought his lack of family made it happen
I thought I was stronger and more patient that those that tried before me
I was wrong.
If you want to spend your life stressing over how much he's drinking, when he's drinking, why he's drinking, is he hiding it, how much has he had, is he at work or drinking then go ahead but it will come to this.
It's no life and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
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Please understand that the manipulation isn't necessarily conscious. He may well believe much of what he says. We alcoholics are always looking for that magical external thing that will help us "control" the drinking (not quit, never that).
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
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Please understand that the manipulation isn't necessarily conscious. He may well believe much of what he says. We alcoholics are always looking for that magical external thing that will help us "control" the drinking (not quit, never that).
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
Sad...but spot on.
UpsideDown....the "stickies" are located just above the posted threads.
(as per the diagram that I gave you in the link).
the bottom one that I referred to is labeled as "about recovery:"
I am going to give you a quick link to the Classic Reading section, that I spoke of. (it is found in the "about recovery" sticky .http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...c-reading.html
Let me know if you found it, or not....
(as per the diagram that I gave you in the link).
the bottom one that I referred to is labeled as "about recovery:"
I am going to give you a quick link to the Classic Reading section, that I spoke of. (it is found in the "about recovery" sticky .http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...c-reading.html
Let me know if you found it, or not....
Please understand that the manipulation isn't necessarily conscious. He may well believe much of what he says. We alcoholics are always looking for that magical external thing that will help us "control" the drinking (not quit, never that).
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
So often alcoholics bounce from person to person and location to location and job to job trying to find that external cure. Right now, he may honestly believe he's found that in you.
Problem is, it never works.
Eventually I realised it was not going to work.
Upsidedown.....you will see that it is recommended, time and time again, by those who have been where you are, that you attend alanon.....
The reason for this is that it is a place for those who have been effected by an alcoholic---where you can work on your own emotions and your own self...
so many people, here, say that it has literally saved their lives......
You are not alone, and there is so much support, for you.....
The reason for this is that it is a place for those who have been effected by an alcoholic---where you can work on your own emotions and your own self...
so many people, here, say that it has literally saved their lives......
You are not alone, and there is so much support, for you.....
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Well... I just text him to see how he is doing and he very plainly told me he is at the pub meeting a friend for a few drinks and he'll call me later.
So I guess he has given up on giving up...
I really AM an idiot 😫
So I guess he has given up on giving up...
I really AM an idiot 😫
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It doesn't have to be a long conversation, you know. And if he's been drinking, carefully chosen words will probably be wasted on him anyway.
"I've decided it's best that we don't see each other anymore. I need to focus on myself right now, but I wish you well."
Text him that, for that matter. With a normal person you wouldn't, but unless you want to spend hours debating with a drunk about whether he really has a problem or not (probably at 2a.m. AFTER the bar closes), it's the most direct way.
And no, you can't be "just friends."
One more thought...all those people who supposedly abandoned him may well have been pushed away.
"I've decided it's best that we don't see each other anymore. I need to focus on myself right now, but I wish you well."
Text him that, for that matter. With a normal person you wouldn't, but unless you want to spend hours debating with a drunk about whether he really has a problem or not (probably at 2a.m. AFTER the bar closes), it's the most direct way.
And no, you can't be "just friends."
One more thought...all those people who supposedly abandoned him may well have been pushed away.
I think I'm gonna have a difficult conversation ahead of me this evening. Absolutely dreading it.
it doesn't have to be long and drawn out and agonizing. you have simply decided you will not keep seeing him. you don't need to defend that decision, or explain yourself, or make HIM understand. nor does this need to be a one-person intervention where you attempt to GET HIM to see the light and change his ways.
it doesn't have to be long and drawn out and agonizing. you have simply decided you will not keep seeing him. you don't need to defend that decision, or explain yourself, or make HIM understand. nor does this need to be a one-person intervention where you attempt to GET HIM to see the light and change his ways.
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I think I'm gonna have a difficult conversation ahead of me this evening. Absolutely dreading it.
it doesn't have to be long and drawn out and agonizing. you have simply decided you will not keep seeing him. you don't need to defend that decision, or explain yourself, or make HIM understand. nor does this need to be a one-person intervention where you attempt to GET HIM to see the light and change his ways.
it doesn't have to be long and drawn out and agonizing. you have simply decided you will not keep seeing him. you don't need to defend that decision, or explain yourself, or make HIM understand. nor does this need to be a one-person intervention where you attempt to GET HIM to see the light and change his ways.
Someone said: "if someone tells you who they are, listen!" You have no idea if he is going to get sober or not, so don't project that he will. Alcoholics go to great lengths to hide their problem. Doesn't sound like he has any recovery....is he going to AA? This would be a huge red flag for me, and I think it is for you as well. An active alcoholic is the worst bet for a decent relationship.
Well, as I predicted, I could bring myself to do it. Seems I'm a glutton for punishment
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