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Old 05-25-2011, 10:32 AM
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Lying

My boyfriend lied to me again. My eyes are not so great, and my hearing sucks, but there is nothing wrong with my sense of placement, my memory, or my sense of smell. I'm not sure what he's trying to prove, but so far he's proven that gaslighting is the new Olympic sport.

The other day I went over to have lunch with him, and he stank like the night before. He asked me to stay the night, and I said no. I didn't mention the smell because it's none of my business. But yesterday, we were talking and he said he hadn't had anything to drink since he broke our lunch date 3 weeks ago due to a hangover. I pointed out the empty wine bottle next to my garden, the smell last week, the cork next to his bed. He said all that was from 3 weeks ago. I don't think so. He's putting his gloss over my sense of reality - gaslighting at its finest. I actually believed that maybe I was mistaken for a minute; then I remembered; I'd weeded that garden the weekend before. There was no bottle of wine.

I find it maddening. Maybe he's lying to himself. Maybe he doesn't remember. Maybe it doesn't matter, because the fact is he lied to me again!

I hate liars. I hate alcoholics. I hate drama. I'm stomping off to a meeting in an hour. Maybe I'll be quiet at this one and learn something!!!!

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Old 05-25-2011, 10:46 AM
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Ditto. What are you getting out of this relationship? On a list of pros and cons, what are the pros?
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You know how you can tell when an alcoholic is lying? Their lips move.

You deserve better.
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Sounds like you need that meeting... and a new boyfriend!
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:09 PM
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I liked this part made me smile -
I'm stomping off to a meeting in an hour. Maybe I'll be quiet at this one and learn something!!!!
I'm picturing the classic stage-stomping -
where the arms are swinging,
the whole body is tilted forward, following the head...

maybe the 'Angry Fred Flintstone tuba music' in the background...

made me smile.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by m1k3 View Post
You know how you can tell when an alcoholic is lying? Their lips move.

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Old 05-25-2011, 05:15 PM
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Unfortunately, lying is a big part of addiction. It goes hand and hand.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:09 PM
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So what do you guys do when you know someone is lying to you? Do you confront that person?

I have a hard time (understatement of the year) shutting up and disconnecting when I know I'm being lied to.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvie66 View Post
I'm not sure what he's trying to prove, but so far he's proven that gaslighting is the new Olympic sport.
Perfectly said!!!!!

I find it maddening.
Maybe he's lying to himself.
I'd say definitely!

I hate liars. I hate alcoholics. I hate drama.
Agreed. I am right there with you. I can't offer anything constructive or positive tonight bc I am angry along with you. I wish I could cut AH out of my life entirely. Someone with no morals, no respect for others, no values etc... frankly has no right to be a parent to young kids nor deserves any interaction with me at all. I've had it with compassion, detachment with love and forgiveness. Time for him to get his act together or get the hell out of my life. Sounds like your BF and my H could make the perfect pair.

Sorry things are so crummy. You deserve SO much better.
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Glad you are going to meetings..I'm going to quote what I have been told here at least 3 or 4 times, and that is, "You didn't cause this, you cannot control this, and you cannot cure him." I think I said that right..pretty sure I did, maybe not in the right order but anywho. Just take care of YOU sweetie!!! ((((Hugs))))
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:25 PM
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Florence -

I think your question deserves its own thread!

"What do YOU do when someone is lying to you?"

that's a great thread, I'm sayin!

Lying to me says =-
the disease is still stronger than the recovery.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:29 PM
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Let's make that happen...
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:17 AM
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What do you do when someone keeps lying to you, as alcoholics ALWAYs do?

You walk.

Because you basically have a farce of a relationship. Healthy relationships rely on trust. Trust is impossible with an alcoholic. They can't even be honest with THEMSELVES.

I wasted 3.5 yrs on one; pls don't make my same mistake.

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Florence -

I think your question deserves its own thread!

"What do YOU do when someone is lying to you?"

that's a great thread, I'm sayin!

Lying to me says =-
the disease is still stronger than the recovery.
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I hate the lies ... blatant lies, and yes they go hand in hand with the vodka..I just walk away now.
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Originally Posted by barb dwyer View Post

Lying to me says =-
the disease is still stronger than the recovery.
SO TRUE!! awesome quote Barb...!!!

I got the ah ha moment!!
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