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Old 07-19-2006, 08:36 PM
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When You First Started Drinking

What was your situation when you first started drinking? As an example, here's what mine was...

It started back in high school, probably around tenth grade. Bottom line is that I learned how to drink from hard core alcoholics. I didn't realize it at the time, of course, but that's what happened.

Suddenly I had a slew of people who were willing to accept me as I was. They weren't ragging at me, or telling me how terrible of a person I was, or demanding that I do anything. They were willing to take me on my own terms. They were accepting of me even if I was "weird".

All I had to do was show up, and pitch in my share of the cash, and viola! I could hang out with others, be comfortable, talk about almost anything, and there was something we could do that was fun -- namely, get messed up. I *belonged* and I didn't have to face all those emotions.

(Ever play frisbee under a full summer moon when you can barely walk?)

What I learned from them was that if you aren't drinking to get plastered then you're just wasting the beer. If you vomit from too much foam it only means you're inexperienced -- you'll learn -- here, have another beer -- feel those sensations? -- that's your body waking up, now wipe your chin.

It was a couple of decades before I realized it, and before I realized just how wrong the whole thing was. By that time though, it was too late. I was already conditioned to abuse alcohol and my body had already changed. I couldn't NOT be a binge drinker no matter how I tried. It took me a while longer, (only recently), before I realized that part. Toss in the emotional escape, and my continued reliance on the escape... well, you get my point.

So how did you get started?
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It was Christmas Eve and I was around age nine. For some God forsaken reason my parents would allow my sisters and I to drink slow gin fizzes. Just one, maybe two, but it became a Christmas tradition from that point on. Every year my parents would buy a bottle for us kids. ???

At age fourteen a friend and I went cruising with a guy would had some beer. I think I drank about 4 and was hammered. From that day on I lived for the weekend and any opportunity to get wasted. That first beer lit a fire in me and made me feel like yeah, I like it. Partying was my passion and my main desire. Little did I know that things would take a change for the worst decades down the road. My main desire turned into a dire need to find a better way of life and sobriety.
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I started at 15 and I dont think there has been a time since then, that if I picked up alcohol i didnt get wasted. I remember pretty clearly the first time. Went to school in the morning drunk off of vodka and OJ, still to this day vodka is my AOC, well and wine and beer and gin, oh hell anything really.

But examining myself lately, has made me realize that yes I was an alcoholic from day one. It took me 17 years to even want to stop. I knew years ago I had a problem, I just never cared to do a darn thing about it. Now I have and I do and I WILL. God and AA are doing for me what I could not do for myself.

I never thought I drank to fit in or become more sociable, I am always that even without alc., I thought I just drank because I liked the way it made me feel, but looking at myself and my life, I do realize that I didnt like the person I was and was trying to escape and hide. Alcohol provides that numbing relief temporarily. However you always have to wake up and usually from a black out with a hangover.

I am so THANKFUL to not have to do this anymore.

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You pretty much told my story Star. I think I was around 14 the first time I got drunk. I loved the feeling. I hung out with the partiers where being wasted was the norm. Throw up, pass out, black out.....have your "friends" tell you what stupid think you did. Laugh about it.........After a while it wasn't as fun. I was the only one drinking to get wasted and the only one blacking out, vomiting, passing out, fighting, getting kicked out of bars, etc. I've known from day one I suppose. I did once in high-school try to get into a group of teen "problem drinkers". I even had my mom come to the school to talk to the counselor with me. I've apparently blocked out what happened, either way I continued to drink until I was 31. I really wanted my parents to send me away. I knew then I was crazy or something. Turns out my mom had a drinking problem at that time. I suppose that's why she didn't help. I'm not sure. Boy, I haven't thought of some of this stuff in ages.

It sure is great to be sober today!

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At 14 my family moved from a small town to a large one.
The teens there were dabbling in alcohol after school
dances and parties. They were the "in" crowd.

I desperately wanted to be as “cool” As they were...
that meant drinking and petting and cigarettes.
I liked all three!!

I used alcohol to be at ease socially...
had no problem for many years on that level.

Slowly my drinking increased..
I worked in bars/restaurants
all my friends were heavy drinkers
depression clouded my mind.

Damn! I was now an alcoholic!..
And did not care...how pathetic!

Finally, my depression got me into AA recovery.

What a blessing!..

Thanks for letting me share..
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Somewhere around 14 I had two major drinking experiences, I don't remember which came first, ironins I guess.

One day in school it was someones birthday so we went to the deli and got a beer wiht our lunch (in Nyc in 1976 noone cared abut our age) we ored the beer into soda cans and drank it out of a straw. Well... One was not enough for me I went back for two more...go figure. I was bombed I remember falling of off a chair during class, no one notice it was a very liberal high school. so what do I do I go to the "somking bathroom" (I told you it was a liberal school) and smoked a joint, smart move... you can finish this story

The other time was at my aunts for thankgiving, I was allowed to drink eggnog so I did, and wne wiht dinner so I did, then whike clearing the table my I was finish the left overwine, then I decided to "taste" the rum, vodka and scotch right out of the bottle... Passed out, threw up and man waht a hangover. The weird thing was my drinking parents didn't seem mto have a problem with this.

Wow! telling those stories sent chills down my spine!

From then on it was drinking every weekend or more if I could, at my families weekend /summer house at the shore, some of us had a charge account at the liquor store by 16 and they delivered.

Add weed, qualudes, tuies and acid I wonder how I survived to tell this story.
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I was 14 too. Snuck out of the house with a bottle of vodka from the liquor cabinet, went driving around with older friends, drank till I blacked out and woke up in the morning (forgot to sneak back in) in a car in the woods with about 5 other people. Man did I get in trouble. Never stopped.
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I bumped this for Turkey and Lollipop...

The following was a direct reference to my "family life" at the time.

"...Suddenly I had a slew of people who were willing to accept me as I was. They weren't ragging at me, or telling me how terrible of a person I was, or demanding that I do anything. They were willing to take me on my own terms. They were accepting of me even if I was 'weird'..."

It was an escape for me from my family, and a way to gain acceptance from others, something that I hadn't known -- a way to "prove" that they were wrong about me and had been all along.

Don't buy into the manipulations or the mind-f*cks your family tries to hand you. Its your choice, and only YOU can define *you* no matter how much others may try.

Sure, it'll **** them off when they try and it doesn't work. Sure, they'll gang up on you trying to play "belief games" ("...how can we all be wrong and you're right?..."). But see it for what it is and tell them so. They won't believe you and they may even start hating you for it.

But remember that you've still got truth on your side and keep feeding that serenity.
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:51 AM
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My first drink was when i was about 11, my father let me and my sister split a beer and after getting that high feeling I knew deep down i was going to like drinking and over my teenage years my father would let us drink a glass of wine or 2, or a couple of beers, he thought if we experienced it at home we wouldnt go out and do it with friends, now both him and me both realized what a mistake he made as i did the same with my son. And the first time i got really drunk was when i spent the night at a friend's house at 15 , parents were gone and my friend had an older brother who bought a bottle of rum, within a couple of hours we had almost finished a fifth of rum and i was so sick woke up in the middle of the night throwing up and through my high school years didnt go out and drink that much w/friends , 6 or 7 times cause i guess i could drink at home, but started drinking excessively when i got to college, especially after moving outa my parents house cause me amd my dad got into a fight about me drinking and driving cause i had gotten a DWI when i was 18, I am 41 now and need to quit .
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I also think i drank cause it made me feel good, more confident, like i was on top of the world, in college as i explained earlier, i had lots of friends and i was finally after yrs of not having many friends and feeling like i didnt fit in, was part of a big group of friends who at the time i thought was so great and also for me alcohol was an escape from reality considering i had a bad childhood, father had a violent temper, abusive. Going to bars and all the normal alcohol activities, I have so many stories to tell about getting drunk i could write a book about them-especially the crazy and wild things that happened along the way of my alcohol life. But that is it for me time to quit and get on with a better life!
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My first drink was probably 10 snuck it with a friend in my bedroom.....mmmm can remember we mixed creme de caco with baileys and peppermint schnapps.ugh We puked all night needless to say. Then when I was 14 got drunk with my cousin in front of my blind uncle on triple sec....( I know I'm going to hell for that one!)
But it REALLY started at 25. I got divorced moved out on my own and started going out with the girls everynight after work. Then it was drinking everynight either alone or with friends. It went downhill from there. The partying is what started it. Then when we weren't partying my best friend and I would sit down everynight and polish off at least an 18 pack. The blonde beer bongs is what all our guy friends called us. Sad but true I might add, it was cool then, NOT cool now!
It REALLY helps to hear everyone's story, makes you realize you are NOT alone.

Greentea......even though I don't know you, we obviously have had parallel family histories or close to...
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Turkey, great post and i can relate, my really heavy drinking started when i was 21 and i thought it was fun and i think back and i am probably lucky to be alive today from some of the stupid things i did when i was drunk but now it is no longer fun anymore it became to drink was just to keep myself from having withdrawals and i hate this feeling!
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So many stories..and most of you HATED your first drinks and puked all night. Mmmm that tells me there's more to this than what is assumed. It is why I don't believe alcoholism is an illness. If we "Alkis" were born to drink we would be able to easily at the beginning and love it from the first moment..as heavy drinkers, we practically had to force ourselves to drink in the early stages just to be in with the crowd. I remember drinking...well forcing.. three beers down with my peer-pressure "Friend" who was a real hard-man (not)...I went to the toilet and puked...It was not for a few months, perhaps after a year of partying and puking at about 14 yrs old until I noticed that 'relaxed calm effect' that booze has. I believe we eventually immunise ourselves to it and the alcoholism comes purely as a way out of anxieties and poor social circumstances (definitely the way it was with me). I ALWAYS drank away anxiety and never drank as a way to socialise or relax(if I'm utterly honest), hence more anxiety, more drink...and so on...that was and is the difference between me and so-called "normal" drinkers. Sorry, I just don't think it's a disease of the body as such..just a symptom of social struggles and anxieties within.


Well, thanks for letting me post that, by the way I'm not attacking believers in the "Disease model" or AA. I still need to be on here though. Different strokes for different folks

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Oh I know! I HATE to admit this.....but, I remember nights....driving home with one eye open because even though I was on a two lane highway......it looked like a 5 lane interstate....It's amazing I didn't hurt anyone! Stupid...sooo stupid!!!
All our friends were flyers to so we'd drive off the base that way, it's amazing I never got stopped. My best friend wasn't so lucky she ended up getting a DUI...she NEVER drank again....well up until now, she is slowly starting back.

NOW my BIG question is how do I prevent my 6 month old daughter from having a "story." It kills me inside to think that someday she might!
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I am an expert on DWI's , first on was when i was 18, went years without one then the last 4 years or so I got back into the heavy drinking going out after work with a friend, drinking and got 2 more DWI's, so that is three all together for me, the last one i spent 2 weeks in the county jail, which i knew i had a problem but as soon as i got out i started drinking again which i shouldnt have cause when in jail i couldnt drink went through withdrawals but while in jail i was thinking the first thing when i get out is i want a drink, i figured if i just drank at home it would be ok-BIG MISTAKE, i also got my license suspended for 2 yrs which i will get my priviliges back this December, which is another reason i want to stop drinking, never wanna go through the DWI thing again besides all the surcharge fees i am having to pay $2500 a year for three years-totally sucks!
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nice thread...

I think technically my first drink may have been my dad giving me sips of beers in the pub..
at around 12 probably.. might have even had a full pint of shandy..

first drink, drink.. After going to a football match ..was 14
got served in a pub.. Went straight for the strongest lager available.. Kronenbourg 1664 ..
Courage of a lion, wit of erm..someone very witty...

(similar to an old simpons which was shown last night when homer was recollecting how witty and entertaining he BELIEVED was when he was when completely out of it at his party)

The 23 year love affair started..there and then. Loved it. Had to cycle home 3 miles .. must have fallen off the bike 20 times.. puked up..cut n bruised next day and stinking hangover.. still loved it..
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I married a high functioning alcoholic... being a dope smoking hippy I didn't know anything about booze.
I couldn't beat him so I joined him and about 10 years later I was having alcohol withdrawal seizures!
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On your question about your daughter, I have an 18 yr old son who went through alcohol and drugs, mainly drugs, he is doing well now, living w/my parents because of an bad ending of me an him fighting and him getting put in jail for assault so my father decided to get hima lawyer and have him come live with him amd my mom, which my father is retired and a very strict and very strong male role model for my son, but i dont know what the answer is, because i did everything in my power to stop him from using but nothing worked and maybe from him seeing me drinking he thought it was ok for him to do drugs and drink plus my husband was not a very good role model-he just didnt want to deal with it, and when i spoke of 4 yrs ago starting to drink a lot again that was part of the reason because i developed an anxiety disorder and that is how my son ended up in jail cause he stole my anxiety pills which a lot of teenagers are into these days. I think talking to your daughter when she gets older may help and to not let her drink might help and having a structured environment and getting her involved in sports or some activity might help.
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Here's a side issue...

DUI laws... I'm not arguing how dangerous it is or how you put society at risk when you get behind the wheel drunk. But what exactly is it that you're getting punished for?

For having no judgement when you're intoxicated? (D'uh)

For succuming to a disease (physical) or mental disorder (non-physical) and drinking when you shouldn't?

For not seeking treatment and trying to live your life in denial?

I don't think anyone's ever said, "You know, I'm going to intentionally get plastered and then drive -- hope I take out a few people along the way"... This is as opposed to say, a burglar who DOES say, "You know, I'm going to intentionally break into that house over there -- I hope I haul away lots of good stuff".

On the contrary, how many times did I go out thinking to myself, "I hope I don't get sh*t-faced tonight -- maybe I can keep it down to just a few and then switch to water -- or if I do, I hope I'll at least have the presence of mind left to crawl in the back seat and sleep it off first".

I used to live in a lot of denial. Being arrested certainly got my attention. But it seems to me that rehabilitation would serve society much better than heavy-handed punishment.

Or maybe I'm just trying to escape the consequences of my drunken actions.

On the up side, I know that once this is all behind me, I never have to go through it again. The trick is going to be surviving through it.
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Interesting thread............ Wow! let me see, I had my very first encounter with alcohol at a family cookout. I just turned 18 and asked an uncle if it was ok if I had a few brewskis from his cooler. He merilly replied" go right ahead, you are old enough to fight in wars, why can''t you have a few beers. Take as many as you like" Boy did I take my uncle's words literally!

What I recal most vividly about my first time drinking alcohol, is that I was really excited about finally being able to do something that every adult male in the universe should be able to do. I thought about the numerous times that I had heard school mates or relatives go on and on about their drunken expolits(particularly those involving women) and felt out-of-the-loop, because I had no such experience with alcohol. So, my first time, It was like......."ok, now I'm graduating to the ranks of a real man".

As others have described, upon taking my very first sip of alcohol(beer) I thought that it was absolutely the nastiest fluid that I had ever tasted in my life( by a long shot). Not only did it taste bad, but it smelled bad too.

Also, I recall that during my first booze session I was extremely disappointed with the immidiate effects of alcohol. I must have sat there and drank an entire cooler of beef by myself. I was like.......... what's the hoopla and where's the euphoric feelings that I'm supposed to feel.

Initially, I didn't even feel a buzz.... later, a strange numbness hit the side of my face and after standing up, I realized that I was plastered out of my mind. In hindsight, I must have drank a cooler of beer all by myself. This was pure shock to the system of a guy, who never drank a day in his life and had a tall skinny frame at that. Anyways, that was the sickest day of my life and It was several years before I bothered picking up a beer again and becoming a regular consumer.

My how things change!

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