Any "A's" out there? What did it take...?

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Old 08-30-2006, 08:15 AM
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Any "A's" out there? What did it take...?

If this needs to be on another thread... let me know ok?

I want to know if there area any alcholics that read this if they would share what it took to reach your bottom to discover you couldn't concour soberity alone.
And what made you do something about it? What did it take to surrender?


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Karen, you might have better luck and more responses over on the AA forum.

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Old 08-30-2006, 09:43 AM
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For me it took fear greater then I was willing to deal with.
Fear of putting my children at risk.
Fear of repeating some of my mistakes of the past.
Fear of jail.
Fear of jail because of the mistakes of my past.
Tired of looking for jobs because of getting fired.

For my FIL it took the fear of death. His second heart attack and the Dr showing him his med records to prove...Yes you did have a heart attack before but don't remember it.

For each person, the line that needs be crossed to reach bottom is so different.
You can't lead us to the line or push us over it. The line is something we need find for ourself.
What you should do and it is the best you can do for you and for the A in your life....
Take care of "You"
Having been there and done that. you can trust me on this...
Taking care of you IS the best thing you can do for the A in your life.
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I can't tell you what it takes, because I don't know. But I can tell you, for my husband it wasn't; jail, losing your kids, missing your daughters birth, losing your car, losing your license, losing your job, losing your home, losing family & friends, it wasn't living in a box or living in the gutter, it wasn't trying to kill yourself. I don't know what his bottom will be....
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kmagk: that is what I'm afraid of... I keep looking for signs of "bottom"
just when I think he is there, he's not/
When do we stop living on HOPE?
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See nytepassions post:

last paragraph: "The best gift you can give yourself and your alcoholic loved one is YOUR OWN RECOVERY ... they can't do it for you ... you can't do it for them ... but each can do it for themselves ... and I can say this .. It is easier for the alcoholic to out run you ... so if you plan on tryin to keep up you better get ready to be put through more hell then you've ever know before ...

It stops when you stop it ... "
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Originally Posted by KarenM
When do we stop living on HOPE?
When I choose to. I know I've said this before: Hope is not a plan.
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Why all this focus and attention on the alcoholics bottom? What I wonder is when are you going to hit your bottom?

So just like you looking for signs of him hitting his bottom, I am looking for signs of your hitting yours!

Sucks waiting and waiting and waiting .......... watching the destruction that enablers and alcoholics leave in their wakes.
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Judy's back! Yay! (Sorry to derail)

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OMG Judy... your absolutely right. Maybe I should determine what my bottom is.
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Originally Posted by ASpouse
Why all this focus and attention on the alcoholics bottom? What I wonder is when are you going to hit your bottom?
So just like you looking for signs of him hitting his bottom, I am looking for signs of your hitting yours!
Sucks waiting and waiting and waiting .......... watching the destruction that enablers and alcoholics leave in their wakes.

THAT IS HUGE!
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Judy you took the words right out of my mouth.
This is exactly what I was thinking....just
couldn't put it into Judy form.....
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Oh, so now there's a "Judy Form?"
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Oh, so now there's a "Judy Form?"
Yes, and it must be filled out completely and submitted in triplicate..............

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Thank you Patty and everyone!
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Yeah Judy..

nice to have your wisdom back on board..Hope Skye (forgot the new name) is doing well..
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Thanks for asking Minx ....

Shania (formerly known as Skye) is doing quite well. She still worries and is nervous, but is becoming more confident everyday. Basically what I've done with her the past 3 weeks is just let her be a dog. No pressure from me. I allow the other dogs to correct her, to initiate play with her and try to steal her food. She handles corrections well, plays good with the others and will stand her ground with her food. It's good to see.

She adores my son, follows him everywhere. She is nervous around new folks and tries to intimidate with a low growl which is almost ridiculous because it's hard to take as "meaningful" in any way at all. I simply redirect her behavior and she is fine with every one. She is quite easy actually compared to what I usually deal with.

Her true personality is emerging which is a good thing for now I can see her strong behavior points (which are many) and her weak behavior points. So I have sort of developed a program of training with her to build her confidence.

She and I will be attending training classes starting on October 1 which is quite different from the ones I've previously attended ..... The first hour is hiking with the group of dogs and their handlers and the 2nd hour is training, trading off with other handlers to work with different dogs. I think this type of training will be good for Shania as she will learn that people are good for the most part and will help build her confidence.

So that's the Shania update ...... maybe pictures tomorrow if I can get some good ones of the Skinny Black Dog!
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